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Title: Coachbuilt Puzzle Solved!
Post by: Joćo on July 01, 2010, 06:13:52 PM
6 cars - 6 coachbuilders

I want to know the name of them : 1 point for the car and another for the coachbuilder!


Have fun ;)
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: Bugace on July 01, 2010, 06:21:05 PM
First  is Belvallette
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: Joćo on July 01, 2010, 06:32:42 PM
First  is Belvallette

Hi and welcome Bugace!

Unfortunately not a Belvallette body.
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: Bugace on July 01, 2010, 06:40:13 PM
Straight into the trap.
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: Joćo on July 01, 2010, 06:45:27 PM
Straight into the trap.

 ;D Yes..this one is not that easy  ;D
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: milos62 on July 02, 2010, 09:27:16 AM
coach5 #  AUDI  "Alpensieger" D - 1912 - 45 PS
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: Joćo on July 02, 2010, 12:32:53 PM
coach5 #  AUDI  "Alpensieger" D - 1912 - 45 PS

Yes it“s! only 1 point for you
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: yves on July 02, 2010, 01:59:39 PM
#1 1909-1914  Renault AG-1 Taxi, Factory body by Renault
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: Joćo on July 02, 2010, 02:09:18 PM
#1 1909-1914  Renault AG-1 Taxi, Factory body by Renault

Yes,it“s a Renault but it“s not a factory job...remember,coachbuilt puzzle!
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: Bugace on July 02, 2010, 08:00:10 PM
Could the first be one made in New Jersey?
Acme Veneer and Body Co. of Rahway?
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: Joćo on July 02, 2010, 10:35:47 PM
Could the first be one made in New Jersey?
Acme Veneer and Body Co. of Rahway?

No,sorry  :-\  Not from USA!
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: Joćo on July 03, 2010, 12:28:35 PM
Expert time!
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: Joćo on July 08, 2010, 12:51:55 AM
Pro time!
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: pnegyesi on July 08, 2010, 02:11:50 AM
No2: American chassis, Swiss body?
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: Joćo on July 08, 2010, 10:02:16 AM
No2: American chassis, Swiss body?

American chassis yes! but not a Swiss body.
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: grobmotorix on July 09, 2010, 02:33:47 PM
Coach#5, the Audi may have a custom body manufactured by Kathe/Halle.
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: Joćo on July 09, 2010, 02:44:00 PM
Coach#5, the Audi may have a custom body manufactured by Kathe/Halle.

No  :-\
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: Ehhxekt on September 26, 2010, 04:19:04 AM
I happened upon it just by chance: coach #3 is a 1913 Delahaye Type 32 Double Phaéton by Passerat & Radiguet.
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: pnegyesi on September 26, 2010, 05:36:13 AM
BTW coach5, which is an Audi 22/55 PS, typ "E" Phaeton from 1913 is the 2nd oldest Audi which exists today. It was bodied by Reinhold Walther in Grossenhain
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: Tom_I on September 26, 2010, 06:06:37 AM
Coach6 is a Daimler 20/70 Model Q of 1927, with "doctor's coupé" bodywork by Sanderson & Holmes Ltd of Derby, UK.
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: pnegyesi on September 26, 2010, 09:06:48 AM
No2: French body?
No4: Again, French body?
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: Joćo on September 26, 2010, 04:20:42 PM
Finally some good and complete answers!!

pnegyesi,number #04 Yes! #02 don“t have a French body...

So let“s go :

#01 - 1910 Renault Type AG Landaulette by F.Trayter & C. - Yves and Illuvatar
#02 - 1917 Hupmobile Model N Town Carriage by Boag & Sons (South African coachbuilder) - pnegyesi
#03 - 1913 Delahaye Type 32 Double Phaéton by Passerat & Radiguet - Ehhxekt
#04 - 1913 Anasagasti Coupé de Ville by Repusseau - guido66
#05 - 1913 Audi 22/55 PS Typ E Phaeton by Reinhold Walther - pnegyesi and milos62
#06 - 1927 Daimler 20/70 Model Q Doctor's Coupé by Sanderson & Holmes Ltd of Derby - Tom_I

pnegyesi - 3 points
guido66 - 2 points
Ehhxekt - 2 points
Tom_I - 2 points
Yves - 1 point
Iluvatar - 1 point
milos62 - 1 point
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: pnegyesi on October 03, 2010, 12:57:16 AM
No1 looks very much like the 1910 Renault AX "taxi de la marne" bodied by Audineau &Cie which was auctioned off by RM Auctions in 2008
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: pnegyesi on October 03, 2010, 12:59:01 AM
No2: European body?
No4: long-living coachbuilder (more than 10 years?)
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: Joćo on October 03, 2010, 01:13:28 PM
Triple no...
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: pnegyesi on October 03, 2010, 01:42:43 PM
No2: American chassis with American body?
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: pnegyesi on October 03, 2010, 01:55:41 PM
No1: 1908 Renault AG photographed in 1908 at the Biscaretti Museum in Turin, Italy. I can't find its coachbuilder
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: Joćo on October 03, 2010, 05:34:32 PM
No2: American chassis with American body?

Only the chassis is from America.
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: Joćo on October 03, 2010, 05:40:52 PM
No1: 1908 Renault AG photographed in 1908 at the Biscaretti Museum in Turin, Italy. I can't find its coachbuilder

Yes! I saw this Renault last year when I visited the temporary exposition at Corso Massimo d“Azeglio ( Palazzo Esposizioni ) and this is a very special car! with an Italian body!
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: Maxmotor on October 04, 2010, 06:48:45 PM
1- perhaps a Castagna body?
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: Joćo on October 04, 2010, 09:34:54 PM
Good guess,but no...it“s MUCH more obscure.
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: pnegyesi on October 05, 2010, 01:09:41 AM
No2: Hupmobile Model N Town Carrier, 1917 body by Boag and Sons, South Africa
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: Joćo on October 05, 2010, 01:11:14 PM
No2: Hupmobile Model N Town Carrier, 1917 body by Boag and Sons, South Africa

That“s it! Congrats!
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: pnegyesi on October 05, 2010, 01:54:48 PM
Can you give us a clue for the last one?
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: Joćo on October 05, 2010, 03:02:44 PM
Ok,French body on a non French car.. ;D
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: guido66 on October 05, 2010, 03:18:29 PM
Is #4 a Belgian chassis?
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: Maxmotor on October 05, 2010, 05:25:48 PM
1 - Locati & torretta coachwork?

4 - Kellner body, British chassis?
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: Joćo on October 05, 2010, 09:47:23 PM
Not a Locati & Torretta body...but you“re in the right direction of darkness
Not a Belgian or British chassis or Kellner body!
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: pnegyesi on October 06, 2010, 12:38:35 AM
No4: European chassis?
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: Maxmotor on October 06, 2010, 03:50:20 AM
4- your earlier reply to pnegyesi suggests that this coachbuilder was active for less than ten years, do you confirm this?

and is this a Fiat chassis?
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: Maxmotor on October 06, 2010, 11:17:42 AM
1 - Carrozzeria Fert ?

This is my last uneducated guess, promise!!
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: Joćo on October 06, 2010, 12:55:44 PM
Not an European chassis so,not Fiat.
I“m not sure but I believe so...He made Panhards,Delages...and many others...
Not a Carrozzeria Fert bodied Renault.
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: Iluvatar on October 14, 2010, 05:37:40 AM
#1 Mühlbacher?
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: Joćo on October 14, 2010, 01:14:55 PM
#1 Mühlbacher?

Hi Iluvatar !

Not Mühlbacher....it“s an Italian bodied Renault
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: pnegyesi on November 04, 2010, 04:31:44 AM
No4: was this coachbuilder located in a big city, like Paris?
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: Joćo on November 04, 2010, 12:59:00 PM
No4: was this coachbuilder located in a big city, like Paris?

I believe so!
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: pnegyesi on November 04, 2010, 12:59:38 PM
In Paris?
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: Joćo on November 04, 2010, 01:05:51 PM
In the northwestern suburbs of Paris  ;)
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: pnegyesi on November 04, 2010, 01:36:07 PM
Neuilly-sur-seine?
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: Joćo on November 04, 2010, 01:37:08 PM
Not this one
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: pnegyesi on November 14, 2010, 03:02:06 AM
Levallois-Perret?
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: Joćo on November 14, 2010, 01:48:45 PM
Levallois-Perret?

 ;) Yes.
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: pnegyesi on November 15, 2010, 01:03:01 AM
Was No4 bodied by Manessius?
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: Joćo on November 15, 2010, 01:23:57 AM
No,try an older Carrossier...
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: Maxmotor on November 15, 2010, 04:51:35 AM
Back to my bad guesses:

#1: Carrozzeria Belloni?

#4: Boulogne body?
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: Joćo on November 15, 2010, 11:39:03 AM
No and No....

BTW : Happy Birthday pnegyesi!!!!!!!!

 :drink: :drink:
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: pnegyesi on November 15, 2010, 11:53:25 AM
Thanks!

I called the Biscaretti Museum today, but all cars are in storage and my English and their Italian couldn't communicate.

There were about 40 coachbuilders in Levallois-Perret, so far I researched about 25. Problem is I don't have the complete list, so I'll need some more help - unless someone else finds it first. So a lame question, does the first letter of the name of the coachbuilder is in the A-L range?
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: Joćo on November 15, 2010, 11:59:27 AM
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I called the Biscaretti Museum today, but all cars are in storage and my English and their Italian couldn't communicate

That's what I call investigation!

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There were about 40 coachbuilders in Levallois-Perret, so far I researched about 25. Problem is I don't have the complete list, so I'll need some more help - unless someone else finds it first. So a lame question, does the first letter of the name of the coachbuilder is in the A-L range?

No,it's in the other range.
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: Maxmotor on November 15, 2010, 05:53:01 PM
...and the hunt goes on.

#1: Carrozzeria Lanza

#4: Rhéda body
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: Joćo on November 15, 2010, 05:58:16 PM
Quote
#1: Carrozzeria Lanza

No...

Quote
#4: Rhéda body

No...

keep on trying!
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: Maxmotor on November 15, 2010, 06:58:10 PM
keep on trying!

Indeed!

so:

#1: Anelli e Volpiano

#4: Chevallier
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: Joćo on November 16, 2010, 12:56:36 AM
No and no...number #4 : it's in the M-Z range!  ;)
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: Iluvatar on April 28, 2011, 04:15:13 AM
I called the Biscaretti Museum today, but all cars are in storage and my English and their Italian couldn't communicate.
The Turin Museum is now open! I spent a lot of time searching for every badge around that car and I found....:

Carrozzeria Automobili
F. Trayter & C.
Milano
Via Giuseppe Meda n°11
Is it the name you are looking for??
MPC
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: Joćo on April 28, 2011, 11:25:32 AM
Yes!!! Finally!

I did the same thing 2 years ago  :lmao:

Congratulations!!

Only going there to know this Carrozzeria!

Another picture :
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: Iluvatar on April 29, 2011, 04:17:07 AM
Yes!!! Finally!

I did the same thing 2 years ago  :lmao:

Congratulations!!

Only going there to know this Carrozzeria!
:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: pnegyesi on June 06, 2011, 01:58:10 PM
Is the name of the last coachbuilder one word or more?
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: Joćo on June 06, 2011, 02:29:48 PM
Just one name starting with R

Let's finish this one!
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: guido66 on June 06, 2011, 02:54:31 PM
Repusseau?
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: Joćo on June 06, 2011, 03:04:02 PM
Repusseau?

Yes!!! Now just find the car and the point is yours!

Locked for you!
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: guido66 on June 06, 2011, 03:27:39 PM
 :o Is the chassis from the USA?
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: Joćo on June 06, 2011, 03:53:52 PM
:o Is the chassis from the USA?

Not this America... ;) Still locked!
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: guido66 on June 06, 2011, 04:50:16 PM
From Canada?
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: Joćo on June 06, 2011, 07:10:59 PM
From Canada?

No....

The last lock.
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: guido66 on June 07, 2011, 12:39:44 PM
I have no idea, South American?
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: Joćo on June 07, 2011, 12:46:44 PM
I have no idea, South American?

Yes!
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: guido66 on June 07, 2011, 01:14:16 PM
From Brazil?
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: Joćo on June 07, 2011, 01:17:25 PM
From Brazil?

Close..
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: guido66 on June 07, 2011, 02:40:48 PM
Argentina?
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: Joćo on June 07, 2011, 03:24:00 PM
Argentina?

Yes!

I'll lock again.
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: guido66 on June 07, 2011, 04:23:49 PM
Anasagasti?
Title: Re: Coachbuilt Puzzle
Post by: Joćo on June 07, 2011, 10:03:43 PM
Anasagasti?

Yes! It's an Anasagasti with Coupé de Ville coachwork by Repusseau!

Congrats Guido  ;) Now I can move this old puzzle!

Well done everybody.