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Title: Ginge/Thornycroft MS 20000 RR-engined crash tender prototype
Post by: grobmotorix on January 17, 2011, 12:58:31 PM
Who knows this vehicle?
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Post by: grobmotorix on January 31, 2011, 04:45:35 PM
Next level...
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Post by: Wendax on January 31, 2011, 04:52:23 PM
Is it a Faun?
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Post by: grobmotorix on January 31, 2011, 04:56:25 PM
It´s not german at all...
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Post by: Wendax on February 01, 2011, 03:24:22 AM
Is it an airport fire truck?
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Post by: grobmotorix on February 01, 2011, 04:22:12 AM
Definitly YES!
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Post by: DeAutogids on February 01, 2011, 04:23:39 AM
Kronenburg?
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Post by: Wendax on February 01, 2011, 04:25:17 AM
Rosenbauer from Austria?
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Post by: grobmotorix on February 01, 2011, 06:21:52 AM
None of those.
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Post by: Wendax on February 01, 2011, 06:32:11 AM
Russian?
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Post by: grobmotorix on February 01, 2011, 10:19:49 AM
Not Russian. No former soviet or communist country either.
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Post by: DeAutogids on February 01, 2011, 10:22:35 AM
French?
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Post by: Wendax on February 01, 2011, 10:28:04 AM
Big truck, big country: US American?
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Post by: grobmotorix on February 01, 2011, 10:50:22 AM
Neither nor...
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Post by: DeAutogids on February 01, 2011, 10:54:35 AM
European?
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Post by: grobmotorix on February 01, 2011, 12:09:02 PM
Yes.
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Post by: Wendax on February 01, 2011, 12:43:11 PM
Timoney of Ireland?
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Post by: DeAutogids on February 01, 2011, 01:00:40 PM
I would doubt that, but who knows? British?
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Post by: grobmotorix on February 01, 2011, 03:17:36 PM
I think so, yes.
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Post by: Wendax on February 01, 2011, 05:01:27 PM
Is it a Carmichael crash tender around 1970?
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Post by: grobmotorix on February 01, 2011, 05:08:30 PM
It IS a
QuoteCarmichael crash tender around 1970
...
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Post by: Wendax on February 01, 2011, 05:24:43 PM
Thornycroft?
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Post by: grobmotorix on February 02, 2011, 01:00:28 AM
LOCKED for you. It is (partly) a Thornycroft.

Another company has been involved - and who´s made the engine?
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Post by: Wendax on February 02, 2011, 03:05:24 AM
Couldn't find exactly the same car, but the most similar lead me to the guess that it is a Thornycroft Nubian Major 6x6 chassis with crash tender bodywork and equipment by Pyrene (the type name being somewhere between Mk7 and Mk101?) . The Nubian Major usually featured a big Cummins Diesel engine.
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Post by: grobmotorix on February 02, 2011, 04:16:39 AM
You´ve come very close, but this is a one-off prototype with a special engine.

Tell me the name of the engine maker and the point is yours.

I do not think that anybody will be able to find the rest of the information....
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Post by: Wendax on February 02, 2011, 04:45:51 AM
Well, it being a special engine, Thornycroft been taken over by AEC at the time, AEC belonging to Leyland, and considering the hottest theme in truck engines at that time of plenty of gazoline, I guess it is a Leyland gas turbine engine.
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Post by: grobmotorix on February 02, 2011, 05:25:46 AM
I´ve got to check it when I´ll be back home.

Still locked for you of course.
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Post by: grobmotorix on February 02, 2011, 03:16:37 PM
QuoteWell, it being a special engine, Thornycroft been taken over by AEC at the time, AEC belonging to Leyland, and considering the hottest theme in truck engines at that time of plenty of gazoline, I guess it is a Leyland gas turbine engine.

computer says no...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOdjCb4LwQY

;D
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Post by: Wendax on February 03, 2011, 02:13:18 AM
Some Thornycroft Nubian featured Rolls-Royce engines. Is it one of those?
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Post by: grobmotorix on February 03, 2011, 07:42:38 AM
Now I´ll give you the point!

This prototype has been on duty at Helsinki airport.

It´s a Ginge/Thornycroft MS 20000 crash tender prototype car, a one-off as far as I know.

It has been featured in an official Rolls-Royce engine magazine advertisement.
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Post by: DeAutogids on February 03, 2011, 07:55:29 AM
It still exists:
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2517/4112789276_c7aca629ce_b.jpg)

Ginge was a Copenhagen based company. It moved in 1972, making this truck from before 1972. I found a source stating 1961.
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Post by: Wendax on February 03, 2011, 07:57:39 AM
Is that a Finnish number plate?

Well, I can answer it myself, just found the pic in the web: it is at the Finnish Aviation Museum in Helsinki.

And as I see now, you already mentioned Helsinki airport  :doh:
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Post by: Allemano on February 03, 2011, 08:23:29 AM
More:
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Post by: Carnut on February 03, 2011, 06:36:46 PM
Quote from: Wendax on February 03, 2011, 07:57:39 AM
Is that a Finnish number plate?


It is indeed an old-style Finnish number plate issued prior to 1971 by the city of Turku, Finland's 3rd largest city on the south-western tip of the country.
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Post by: grobmotorix on February 06, 2011, 09:18:05 AM
Now you do know all I knew before - very good!