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Title: JPG #174 Solved : 1928-29 Excelsior Faux Cabriolet by Ets. Generaux
Post by: João on August 08, 2011, 12:19:00 AM
For one point, please identify this car, the coachbuilder and the year :
Title: Re: JPG #174
Post by: João on August 26, 2011, 11:42:46 PM
Up!
Title: Re: JPG #174
Post by: João on September 27, 2011, 03:05:41 PM
Up!
Title: Re: JPG #174
Post by: grobmotorix on September 28, 2011, 04:57:10 PM
Looks like a british car with a french body.

Maybe a Bentley with a Kellner body?
Title: Re: JPG #174
Post by: Allan L on September 28, 2011, 05:14:05 PM
I think it may be a 1934 3½ litre Bentley sedanca coupe by Barker
Title: Re: JPG #174
Post by: woodinsight on September 28, 2011, 06:05:15 PM
Glaser bodied Maybach W6?
Title: Re: JPG #174
Post by: João on September 28, 2011, 08:59:05 PM
Not a Bentley or British car or coachbuilder.
Not a Maybach or German car or coachbuilder.
Not a French car or coachbuilder.


:)
Title: Re: JPG #174
Post by: pnegyesi on September 29, 2011, 12:24:18 AM
Is it a Czech car?
Title: Re: JPG #174
Post by: João on September 29, 2011, 01:32:15 AM
No.
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Post by: pnegyesi on September 29, 2011, 01:55:01 AM
European donor?
Title: Re: JPG #174
Post by: João on September 29, 2011, 01:56:02 AM
Yes!
Title: Re: JPG #174
Post by: woodinsight on September 29, 2011, 02:36:58 AM
Swiss chassis?
Title: Re: JPG #174
Post by: João on September 29, 2011, 11:30:21 AM
No.
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Post by: woodinsight on September 29, 2011, 11:53:57 AM
Italian base?
Title: Re: JPG #174
Post by: João on September 29, 2011, 11:55:03 AM
No.
Title: Re: JPG #174
Post by: pnegyesi on September 29, 2011, 12:36:59 PM
Austrian chassis?
Title: Re: JPG #174
Post by: João on September 29, 2011, 12:37:53 PM
No.
Title: Re: JPG #174
Post by: pnegyesi on September 29, 2011, 12:41:44 PM
Belgian chassis?
Title: Re: JPG #174
Post by: João on September 29, 2011, 12:50:46 PM
Quote from: pnegyesi on September 29, 2011, 12:41:44 PM
Belgian chassis?

Yes!
Title: Re: JPG #174
Post by: pnegyesi on September 29, 2011, 02:08:15 PM
FN?
Title: Re: JPG #174
Post by: João on September 29, 2011, 02:14:35 PM
No.
Title: Re: JPG #174
Post by: pnegyesi on September 29, 2011, 02:25:27 PM
Minerva?
Title: Re: JPG #174
Post by: João on September 29, 2011, 03:12:56 PM
Not a Minerva.
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Post by: Wendax on September 29, 2011, 04:11:33 PM
Excelsior?
Title: Re: JPG #174
Post by: João on September 29, 2011, 07:43:54 PM
Quote from: Wendax on September 29, 2011, 04:11:33 PM
Excelsior?

Yes it's !!
Title: Re: JPG #174
Post by: pnegyesi on September 29, 2011, 11:14:17 PM
Belgian coachbuilder?
Title: Re: JPG #174
Post by: João on September 29, 2011, 11:20:44 PM
Yes  :D
Title: Re: JPG #174
Post by: pnegyesi on September 29, 2011, 11:42:23 PM
The d'Ieteren book doesn't mention this car, so hopefully this is not by them.
How about Matthys&Osy?
Title: Re: JPG #174
Post by: João on September 29, 2011, 11:56:41 PM
Not bodied by D'Ieteren or Matthys & Osy.
Title: Re: JPG #174
Post by: pnegyesi on September 30, 2011, 12:22:14 AM
Van den Plas?
Title: Re: JPG #174
Post by: João on September 30, 2011, 12:25:11 AM
Not by them.It's obscure.
Title: Re: JPG #174
Post by: pnegyesi on September 30, 2011, 12:31:47 AM
Is there a word on this coachbuilder available on-line?
Title: Re: JPG #174
Post by: João on September 30, 2011, 12:34:43 AM
Yes there is,but it's not easy to find.

Another car made by them,with the same style.
Title: Re: JPG #174
Post by: pnegyesi on September 30, 2011, 12:42:24 AM
Pritchard & Demollin?
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Post by: João on September 30, 2011, 12:43:40 AM
Not by Pritchard & Demollin.
Title: Re: JPG #174
Post by: pnegyesi on September 30, 2011, 12:53:12 AM
Ringlet, Liege?
Title: Re: JPG #174
Post by: João on September 30, 2011, 12:54:44 AM
No.

Double name  ;)
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Post by: pnegyesi on September 30, 2011, 01:15:53 AM
Gyselinck & Selliez?
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Post by: woodinsight on September 30, 2011, 03:26:16 AM
Driessens & Oblin?
Title: Re: JPG #174
Post by: João on September 30, 2011, 12:17:47 PM
No and no.
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Post by: woodinsight on September 30, 2011, 12:20:17 PM
Lorenz -Renaerd?
Title: Re: JPG #174
Post by: João on September 30, 2011, 12:51:12 PM
Not by them.
Title: Re: JPG #174
Post by: woodinsight on September 30, 2011, 01:19:38 PM
Gillain-Cosse?
Title: Re: JPG #174
Post by: João on September 30, 2011, 01:21:31 PM
No.
Title: Re: JPG #174
Post by: woodinsight on September 30, 2011, 01:28:01 PM
This is proving more difficult than I thought.
How about Hautcloque & Samin (Carrosserie Parisienne)?
Title: Re: JPG #174
Post by: João on September 30, 2011, 01:29:54 PM
Not by them. No &s ...
Title: Re: JPG #174
Post by: woodinsight on September 30, 2011, 02:13:12 PM
Ets. Generaux de Carrosserie?
Title: Re: JPG #174
Post by: João on September 30, 2011, 02:24:28 PM
Quote from: woodinsight on September 30, 2011, 02:13:12 PM
Ets. Generaux de Carrosserie?

Yes!!

A 192X Excelsior Faux Cabriolet by Ets. Generaux!

Do you know the year? Locked.
Title: Re: JPG #174
Post by: woodinsight on September 30, 2011, 07:14:40 PM
1925/1926?
Title: Re: JPG #174
Post by: João on October 01, 2011, 02:22:11 AM
Quote from: woodinsight on September 30, 2011, 07:14:40 PM
1925/1926?

Another chance :

Later than that.
Title: Re: JPG #174
Post by: woodinsight on October 01, 2011, 03:34:56 AM
Okay thanks.
Probably 1927/1928 around the time of the takeover by Imperia?
Title: Re: JPG #174
Post by: João on October 01, 2011, 12:43:47 PM
Close enough.

1928-29.

A well deserved point!
Title: Re: JPG #174 Solved : 1928-29 Excelsior Faux Cabriolet by Ets. Generaux
Post by: woodinsight on October 01, 2011, 12:47:23 PM
Thanks Joao.
I chose the earlier date as my source told me that the coachbuilder ceased in 1925.
Perhaps this was one of the last bodies produced by them.......
Title: Re: JPG #174 Solved : 1928-29 Excelsior Faux Cabriolet by Ets. Generaux
Post by: João on October 01, 2011, 12:54:50 PM
QuotePerhaps this was one of the last bodies produced by them.......

Indeed!

Another creation by them from 1930!
Title: Re: JPG #174 Solved : 1928-29 Excelsior Faux Cabriolet by Ets. Generaux
Post by: woodinsight on October 01, 2011, 01:46:28 PM
Very interesting.

I think it will soon be time to sort out these Pre-WWII coachbuilders as there is a lot of misleading information out there!
Title: Re: JPG #174 Solved : 1928-29 Excelsior Faux Cabriolet by Ets. Generaux
Post by: grobmotorix on January 08, 2015, 10:17:35 AM
I found a comparable Excelsior Super Sport photo from 1927- here combined with the puzzle photo:
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