NEH 1015 - Another Big Bus Puzzle - all Solved!

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Carnut

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Carnut

#101
Only #18, 22 & 23 to go.
Come on guys!
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woodinsight

#22 - AEC Regal with a Dutch body?

Carnut

Quote from: woodinsight on April 05, 2011, 01:45:01 PM
#22 - AEC Regal with a Dutch body?

Sorry, no.  It's neither an AEC nor Dutch bodied.
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woodinsight

British chassis with a Belgian body?

Carnut

Quote from: woodinsight on April 05, 2011, 02:08:41 PM
British chassis with a Belgian body?

That's a good question.
I'm not actually sure what the chassis is, I just assumed it's not an AEC because of the bodybuilder - who isn't Belgian!
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pguillem

Quote from: Carnut on April 05, 2011, 03:27:48 PM
Quote from: woodinsight on April 05, 2011, 02:08:41 PM
British chassis with a Belgian body?

That's a good question.
I'm not actually sure what the chassis is, I just assumed it's not an AEC because of the bodybuilder - who isn't Belgian!

Portuguese ?

woodinsight


Carnut

Quote from: woodinsight on April 06, 2011, 04:44:45 AM
French?

Yes - the bodybuilder is French.
And I would say it's highly likely that the engine and chassis are, too.
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Carnut

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Carnut

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Carnut

Quote from: woodinsight on April 06, 2011, 06:20:39 AM
Belle-Clot?

How does that translate, I wonder?
Sorry to say I've never heard of them - and that isn't the right answer!
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Wendax


Carnut

Quote from: woodinsight on April 06, 2011, 06:44:44 AM
Grange Freres?

...is the right answer!
It's a coach bodied in 1946 by Grange Freres of Valence, but the chassis is unknown.
Another point for woodinsight!
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Carnut

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Wendax

The Grange Frères bus is probably a Rochet-Schneider. The front emblem looks much like it.

Carnut

Wow - that's worth 1 point if I'm satisfied it's right! 
Perhaps you could post a picture of their emblem?
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woodinsight

#18 - British chassis such as Guy?

Carnut

Quote from: woodinsight on April 06, 2011, 09:23:05 AM
#18 - British chassis such as Guy?

Yes, it's a British chassis; not Guy, though.
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Wendax

Quote from: Carnut on April 06, 2011, 09:05:27 AM
Wow - that's worth 1 point if I'm satisfied it's right! 
Perhaps you could post a picture of their emblem?

Quite difficult to find something appropriate online. The emblem consists of three parts: a left trapezoidal carrying the name ROCHET, a small heraldic middle carrying the interwoven R and S, and a right trapezoidal carrying the name SCHNEIDER. It seems that the post-WWII Rochet-Schneider with works front had the RS decal above the other two. But an independent coachbuilder as Grange Frères could have changed that. And I found a picture of a Rochet-Schneider Phoebus bus with a body by Besset where this was done just as on the puzzle bus. But unfortunately, this picture isn't online, just on good old paper in the book "Camions de France - Troisième Époque" by Jean Gabriel Jeudy. I attach some Rochet-Schneider pictures to show what I mean. Another indicator is the grill with many slim horizontal chrome bars and one vertical center chrome bar. Most Rochet-Schneider after WWII had this. And finally, Rochet-Schneider was located in Lyon, only about 75 km away from Valence, where Grange Frères resided. Now it's up to you to accept my "assumption with foundation", even if it no final proof.  ;)

pguillem