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Started by Paul Jaray, January 01, 2009, 07:40:32 AM

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Allan L

The Audi Typ K that was illustrated was one of the first aerodynamic car bodies by one Paul Jaray, who had started his career as an aerodynamicist working on Zeppelin airships.
The Burney Streamline was designed (and produced ) by Sir Dennistoun Burney, who had been the Airship Guarantee Co.'s (which produced the R100) Managing Director

Opinionated but sometimes wrong

Otto Puzzell

The Burney Streamline (by Sir Dennistoun Burney of the Airship Guarantee Co) and the Maybach W1. Maybach was a supplier of Zeppelin (and railroad) engine, and was known as Luftfahrzeug-Motoreinbau GmbH" (literally "Airship Engine Company") until 1918.

You wanna be the man, you gotta Name That Car!

Paul Jaray

#302
I can't miss a day!
1923 Lancia Lambda and 1923 Audi Type K  both cars are named after the (11th) letter of 2 different alphabets
1923 Audi Type K  and  1932 Burney Streamline  both designers started on airships
1932 Burney Streamline  and  Maybach W1   one manufacturer built the engines for the airships made in the company directed by the other

when the game gets though...

Paul Jaray

#303
See pag.1 for rules and reply n.43 on pag.2 for the connections already used.

-Both cars have the same: builder,
                          engineer,
                          designer,
                          factory building,
                          builder's name,
                          model's name,
                          country,
                          city of construction,
                          year,
                          engine,
                          engine layout,
                          seating layout,
                          wheels\disc brakes
                          position of the engine
                          source of energy,
                          number of CV,
                          traction,
                          body style elements,
                          mileage radius,
                          Citroen-patented hydropneumatic system

-Both cars:               are one-off,
                          are standard production models named after the body manufacturer
                          are concept cars\prototype used by books\movies\... characters
                          are coachbuilt specials based on a popular production car from a different continent
                          are woodies
                          have one exceptional technical spec,
                          have a badge featuring twice the same letter
                          have similarities in the steering mechanism
                          have similarities in the change-speed mechanism
                          have equivalents in other countries
                          have a name referring to different manufacturers
                          have a coachbuilt version of the same design
                          have a fibreglass body
                          have badges which feature the coat of arms of their cities of origin
                          have a letter from the Greek alphabet in their name
                          have a derivate sold by another manufacturer
                          have a luggage compartment above the (underfloor) engine
                          were the first cars produced by their makers
                          were the basis for racing cars
                          were in the same list
                          were designed by designers who started on airships
                          are the high-output version of a standard model
                          star in a film, 
                          had later revival projects,
                          are named after daughters of the cars distributors
                          are named after the same object\thing,
                          are named after meteorological events
                          are named after the same letter of 2 different alphabets
                          derived from different cars,
                          derived from the same car,
                          won the same race,
                          are in the same collection\museum\event
                          their engineers worked for the same company\model
                          are missing of a part
                          Founder's relatives were tied to their early automotive empire
                          are the product of three countries
                          first introduced the same feature, one in the world, the other for its builder
                          existed because of visionaries born in the same year

-One car:                 its nickname and the hood ornament of the other car
                          its engine's nickname and the hood ornament of the other car
                          is named after a vessil and the other is a sea-going car
                          is a styling mockup that became the other car
                          its engine is the evolution of the engine of the other car
                          its designer worked for the design-house of the second car
                          its features were credited to the designer of the 2nd
                          inspired the other

-Both manufacturers:      produced the same non-automotive object
                          made an unorthodox vehicle
                          had a specific coachwork for a country
                          later on made a car in collaboration with another manufacturer
                          Their last model derives from the same car

-One manufacturer:        worked for the other
                          had a relative working for the other
                          was a pilot in the other car
                          built under license the aircraft engines designed by the other
                          built the engines for the airships made in the company directed by the other

-The name of one car and: the driver of the second,
                          the name of a special version of the other
                          the circuit where it raced,
                          the part introduced first time,
                          the name of the actor who played in a movie featuring the other car,
                          the same name in a different language,
                          the name of the city founded,
                          the number of cars produced,
                          the number of one dimension of the other,
                          the name of the engine

-The same:                man owned the design-house of the 1st and was a dealer for the 2nd
                          man was director of the first and founded the second company
                          man designed one car and the car which inspired the other

Allan L

Quote from: Paul Jaray on March 16, 2009, 08:13:16 AM
1923 Audi Type K  and  1932 Burney Streamline  the designer of the first car worked in the airships factory directed by the designer of the second

Er, no.
Paul Jaray worked on Zeppelin airships (Friedrichshafen, Germany) and Dennis Burney was MD of the Airship Guarantee Co. (Howden, England)
The link was simply that both designers started on airships.
Opinionated but sometimes wrong

Paul Jaray

I'll fix that, thank you. Never heard of this Paul Jaray... ;D

75america

Euh...what's wrong with my Volvo 244 connection? (Reply #297)

ImpishGrin

#307
Quote from: 75america on March 16, 2009, 02:24:42 PM
Euh...what's wrong with my Volvo 244 connection? (Reply #297)

This kind of connection (part of one car's name is also a name of a part that has been introduced for the first time in the other car) has already been used with:
1898 Renault Type A 1½ CV  and 1929 Tracta T11 (first car with CV joint)
It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept.

Paul Jaray

The rules also say that I should take away one of your points if you do not change your wrong reply after 24 hours. But I will do that only when I think that the reply is not a serious one, or when it's just a shoot in the dark. You connection was good, but already used, that's why we move on and you will keep your points.

75america

Ok, new attempt:

Maybach W1 and 1967 Meccanica Maniero 4700.
Both have a badge featering a double 'M'



I hope this one is valid!

Allemano


Paul Jaray

#311
This is valid and VERY original!
Maybach W1 and 1967 Meccanica Maniero 4700  Both have a badge featuring twice the same letter (M)
I think with this intuition you just open a new frontier....

Ehhxekt

Meccanica Maniero 4700 1967 and Ascort TSV 1300 1959. Both are coachbuilt specials based on a popular production car from a different continent.

The Michelotti-styled Meccanica Maniero was based on the Ford Mustang; Ascorts, built by the Continental Coachwork Ltd. of Sydney, Australia, had VW chassis.

Paul Jaray

Perfect, and very nice picture!
Meccanica Maniero 4700 1967 and Ascort TSV 1300 1959. Both are coachbuilt specials based on a popular production car from a different continent

75america

#314
Ascort TSV 1300 1959 and 1958 TVR Grantura I

Both cars have a fibreglass body


Paul Jaray

That is good!
Ascort TSV 1300 1959 and  TVR Grantura I  1958  Both cars have a fibreglass body


Ehhxekt

TVR Grantura Mk I 1958 and Healey Tickford Saloon 1951. Both are standard production models named after the body manufacturer.

Of course, we can find many cars where the coachbuilder's name is part of the model name but, as those cars are in most cases special versions of some base model, only an additional part, like in, say, 'Bristol 406 Zagato'. What makes the two cars above special in this respect is that neither is a special; here the name of the coachbuilder is used as a standard model designation (from Grantura Plastics and Tickford Motor Bodies, respectively).

Paul Jaray

I like this!
TVR Grantura Mk I 1958 and Healey Tickford Saloon 1951. Both are standard production models named after the body manufacturer.
[I have to say that since now, only 75america Ehhxekt DynaMike and neilshouse helps me writing the connections in this form: car-car-connection and the reason. Thank you, I really appreciate!

75america

I don't know if this one will be valid but I give it a try:

Healey Tickford Saloon 1951 and Volkswagen Type 3 (1966)

Both are from a brand that later on made a car in collaboration (without a merger) with another brand. 
Special is (and this is the link) that each time both brand names appeared on the car.  (Austin-Healey 3000 and VW-Porsche 914)



Paul Jaray

This is not the first connection between manufacturers and so it's OK.
Healey Tickford Saloon 1951 and Volkswagen Type 3 1966  both manufacturers later on made a car in collaboration with another manufacturer (Austin-Healey VW-Porsche)

Ehhxekt

VW Typ 3 1966 and British Anzani Astra Utility 1956. Both cars have a luggage compartment above the (underfloor) engine.

75america

#321
Anzani Astra Utility 1956 and Biscuter Commercial Rubia .  Both are 'woodies'


Otto Puzzell

#322
Biscuter Commercial Rubia 'Woodie' and 1983 Nissan Sentra (this one with extra wooden bits).

The Biscúter was the brain child of Gabriel Voisin, who was born in 1880. The Nissan was a product of a spinoff of the Nissan Konzerne. founded by Yoshisuke Aikawa, also born in 1880.

Connection: both cars existed because of visionaries born in the same year (1880).

You wanna be the man, you gotta Name That Car!

Paul Jaray

#323
Good x 3!
VW Typ 3 1966                           and  Astra Utility 1956.                   both cars have a luggage compartment above the (underfloor) engine
Astra Utility 1956                and Biscuter Commercial Rubia                 both are woodies
Biscuter Commercial Rubia       and  Nissan Sentra 1983                    both cars existed because of visionaries born in the same year

75america

1983 Nissan Sentra and 2003 Chery Eastar.  Both have the same code name (B11)