Neverending Chain, now closed!

[Paul Jaray]

That is good!

Tucker Torpedo 1948                     and         Rolls-Royce Phantom II  1931   : both cars star in a film (that bears their name)
Rolls-Royce Phantom II 1931      and          what car?                                         why?

Continue this chain for 1 to 4 points use any connection but do not use these:

-Both cars have the same: builder\manufacturer,factory building,builder's name,model's name,country,city of construction,year,
                                               engineer,engine,engine layout,source of energy,number of CV,traction,body style elements, mileage radius
-Both manufacturers: made an unorthodox vehicle
-The name of one car and: the driver of the second,the circuit where it raced,the part introduced first time,the name of the actor who played in a movie featuring the other car, the same      name in a different language, the name of the city founded.
-Both cars: are one-off, have one exceptional technical spec, star in a film,  had later revival projects, are named after daughters of the cars distributors or after the same object\thing,derived from different cars
-Hood ornament and: nickname of the car, nickname of the engine
  -Name of a vessil & a sea-going car
-The engine of one car is the evolution of the engine of the other
  -The designer of one car worked for the design-house of the second
-The same man owned the design-house of the 1st and was a dealer for the 2nd
-One builder's relative worked for the builder of the other car
-The last model of both builders derives from the same car
-Founder's relatives were tied to their early automotive empires
-their engineers worked for the same company\model
-the builder of the 1st car was a pilot in the 2nd
-the features of the first car were credited to the designer of the 2nd
-one company built under license the aircraft engines designed by the other company


See pag.1 for the rules and pag.2 for the connections already used

[Otto Puzzell]

Rolls-Royce Phantom II 1931 and a 1949 Packard Convertible Coupe.

The former company designed and built aircraft engines that were also built under license by the latter. Rolls Royce (Merlin) engines were built under license by Packard in WWII, to power P51 Mustang fighter planes.

[Paul Jaray]

How I like this game.....

Rolls-Royce Phantom II 1931             and  Packard Convertible Coupe 1949    one company built under license the aircraft engines designed by the other company
Packard Convertible Coupe 1949      and    what car?                                             why?

[DynaMike]

Nickname of the Packard (Pregnant Elelphant) was hood ornament on the 1931 Bugatti Royale...

[Paul Jaray]

The Royale ornament was a Pregnant Elephant?!?

[Ray B.]

The Bugatti elephant doesn't look so pregnant to me, but if Paul agrees it's OK with me.

If he doesn't, I have another elephant, although I'm not quite sure of how the relation between both can be qualified (but he may see the same problem with yours too...):
The Chrysler produced 426 Hemi engine's nickname was "Elephant" in the muscle car world.

So here is a car with an elephant not OVER the hood, but UNDER the hood: a 1970 Plymouth Superbird Hemi 426

[Ray B.]

May I suggest a way to connect the proposed Superbird to Dynamike Bugatti Royale:
as I was saying before, the two cars metaphorically carry, upfront, the same animal, an elephant. One over the hood, the other under the hood.

Now if Dynamike idea is rejected (I don't hope so): Since the Packard is pregnant, not only is it an elephant, but it's got another elephant in its innards, like the Plymouth.

@Paul: I've been bothering you too long with some zany connections. If those suggestions look the same to you, just dismiss them. No worry.

[Paul Jaray]

Let's proceed with order...
Packard Convertible Coupe 1949      and     Bugatti Type 41 Royale 1931     nickname of the car-hood ornament
This is fine. I was just considering a bit outrageous the match (and funny of course) between the Pregnant animal and the Bugatti's sculpture, but of course it is a brilliant connection and of course I accept it.

Bugatti Type 41 Royale 1931     and       Plymouth Superbird Hemi 426    1970      nickname of the engine-hood ornament

This is perfect as well and if you were bothering me you will be the first one and this will be the first time, because I'm really enjoing this. Your connections aren't zany at all and don't worry about my patience, I've never seen its limit!

[Allan L]

OK Plymouth is the port from which the "Pilgrim Fathers" sailed to America.
Seville was where Christobal Colon (Columbus) sailed to (what turned out to be) America

Let's say a Cadillac Seville which may look like this, for all I know!

[Paul Jaray]

Great!

Plymouth Superbird Hemi 426  1970      and    Cadillac Seville  1997 (?)   both cars named after the same object\thing   FIXED (city)
  Cadillac Seville  1997                            and     what car?                               why?

[Otto Puzzell]

Cadillac Seville and Arnolt Bristol

Ross Bagdasarian (AKA David Seville of "Alvin and the Chipmunks" fame), played "Tani Ritter" in the movie The Devil's Hairpin, which featured an Arnolt Bristol, among other cars.

[faksta]

Arnolt Bristol and Sokol-650. In 1957 the movie called 'Rivalen am Steuer' was shot in DDR, featuring among the others 1952 Sokol-650 cars (aka Awtowelo 650).

[Paul Jaray]

thin ice...
Cadillac Seville  1997  and  Arnolt Bristol Bolide 1953       name of the car-name of the actor who played in a movie featuring the other car

and

Arnolt Bristol Bolide 1953   and   Sokol 650  1952     because                                            ? (Note that "both cars star in a film" is out of the game.)

[Ray B.]

OK Plymouth is the port from which the "Pilgrim Fathers" sailed to America.
Seville was where Christobal Colon (Columbus) sailed to (what turned out to be) America

Let's say a Cadillac Seville which may look like this, for all I know!

I am sorry to say, Allan, but Seville is no harbor at all. As a matter of fact, it's about 60 miles away from the sea. From what I read , he sailed from a place named Palos de la Frontera.
Your connection doesn't work.

[Paul Jaray]

Great!

Plymouth Superbird Hemi 426  1970      and    Cadillac Seville  1997 (?)   both cars named after the same object\thing FIXED (city)
Cadillac Seville  1997                            and     what car?                               why?

Fixed, thanks!

[faksta]

Ouch!
Sorry, I forgot Ray has already used this connection... Nevermind then, reject Sokol entry please.

[Paul Jaray]

I'm afraid I can't, you have 24 hours to change it or to prove it right, after that I will have to take 1 point of yours away...I'm sure you can find a link between the Arnolt Bristol Bolide and the Sokol or another car, there are still a lot of easy connections out there and I really do not want to take any point to anyone.

[faksta]

Let's say both cars were built around other company's idea. Arnolt was a Bristol, while Sokol/Awtowelo borrowed many things from Auto Union.

[Paul Jaray]

I have to ask you to elaborate a little bit. You can even take another car if you please.The Arnolt had the Bristol engine, but was a different car and I'm not familiar with the Sokol-Auto Union connection.
There is an Arnolt Bristol as a start, find another car that, for any reason, can be matched to this, avoiding the links on the top of this page (or in the 2nd page in detail). The connection can even be an easy one, or you can dig a little bit in the Arnolt story and look for what shows up! The next move is yours for the next 24 hours.

[faksta]

Sokol was built on ideas taken from pre-war Auto Union GP cars, which USSR captured during WW2. Some historians even think it is a never built Auto Union Typ E, though I highly doubt that.
As for Arnolt, it had a shortened Bristol 404 chassis and Bristol 403 engine.

[Paul Jaray]

Ok, that is good!
Arnolt Bristol Bolide 1953   and   Awtowelo Type 650 "Sokol" 1952          both cars derived from other cars

[DynaMike]

They were even derived from other pre-war cars (Auto-Union racer and BMW 328)

[faksta]

Well, basically, yes...

[Otto Puzzell]

Awtowelo Type 650 "Sokol" 1952 and The Rob Walker Racing Lotus 18 Formula One car with which Stirling Moss won the 1961 Monaco Grand Prix.

An example of each rests in the Donington Grand Prix Collection museum, Leics., UK.

[Ray B.]

Now there's an easy one that's never been used, right?
Lotus 18 Formula One and Ferrari 625. Both cars won the Monaco Grand Prix (the Ferrari, with Maurice Trintignant at the wheel, in 1955)

I believe that this thing is really NEVER gonna end.