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[Paul Jaray]

From now till 14th April the points will be doubled. So the last one can catch from 2 to 8 points!
(try to be as accurate as possible in your replies -make-model-year-reason-, probably I won't be much around these days)

[Otto Puzzell]

The Oldsmobile Recon concept and the Ford 24-7 Concept. Each proposed an instrument panel that could be reconfigured to each drivers' preferences. Ford actually made good on the proposal to some degree with the 2005 Mustang, and much more so with the current Fusion hybrid.

[faksta]

Ford 24.7 concept and this 1936 White Red Bus for Glacier National Park. Both had a removable canvas top.

[Paul Jaray]

Oldsmobile Recon 1999 and  Ford 24-7 Concept 20--   both cars have an instrument panel that could be reconfigured to each drivers' preferences
Ford 24.7 concept 20--     and White Red Bus 1936        both cars have the same top configuration
(the last one was dangerously close to the "both cars have the same body style elements" connection, but I'm feeling generous...)

[Paul Jaray]

See pag.1 for rules and reply n.43 on pag.2 for the connections already used.

-Both cars have the same: builder,
                          engineer,
                          designer,
                          factory building,
                          builder's name,
                          model's name,
                          code name
                          country,
                          city of construction,
                          year,
                          engine,
                          engine layout,
                          seating layout,
                          wheels\disc brakes
                          position of the engine
                          source of energy,
                          number of CV,
                          traction,
                          body style elements,
                          top configuration
                          mileage radius,
                          Citroen-patented hydropneumatic system

-Both cars:               are one-off,
                          are standard production models named after the body manufacturer
                          are concept cars\prototype used by books\movies\... characters
                          are coachbuilt specials based on a popular production car from a different continent
                          are woodies
                          have one exceptional technical spec,
                          have only one official colour scheme
                          have a badge featuring twice the same letter
                          have similarities in the steering mechanism
                          have similarities in the change-speed mechanism
                          have equivalents in other countries
                          have a name referring to different manufacturers
                          have a  name containing an acronym that refers to a different company
                          have a coachbuilt version of the same design
                          have a fibreglass body
                          have badges which feature the coat of arms of their cities of origin
                          have a letter from the Greek alphabet in their name
                          have a derivate sold by another manufacturer
                          have a luggage compartment above the (underfloor) engine
                          have a type code shared with a thing\object
                          have an instrument panel that could be reconfigured to each drivers' preferences
                          were the first cars produced by their makers
                          were sold in a later period under a different brand name
                          were the basis for racing cars
                          were in the same list
                          were designed by designers who started on airships
                          are the high-output version of a standard model
                          star in a film, 
                          had later revival projects,
                          are named after daughters of the cars distributors
                          are named after the same object\thing,
                          are named after meteorological events
                          are named after the same letter of 2 different alphabets
                          are named after geographic places
                          both cars are named after political offices
                          derived from different cars,
                          derived from the same car,
                          derived from a prototype made for another company
                          won the same race,
                          are in the same collection\museum\event
                          their engineers worked for the same company\model
                          are missing of a part
                          Founder's relatives were tied to their early automotive empire
                          are the product of three countries
                          first introduced the same feature, one in the world, the other for its builder
                          existed because of visionaries born in the same year

-One car:                 its nickname and the hood ornament of the other car
                          its engine's nickname and the hood ornament of the other car
                          is named after a vessil and the other is a sea-going car
                          is a styling mockup that became the other car
                          its engine is the evolution of the engine of the other car
                          its designer worked for the design-house of the second car
                          its features were credited to the designer of the 2nd
                          inspired the other

-Both manufacturers:      are/were part of the same company
                          were created as a joint venture
                          were owned by tire companies
                          produced the same non-automotive object
                          made an unorthodox vehicle
                          had a specific coachwork for a country
                          later on made a car in collaboration with another manufacturer
                          started car production with cars built under license from another company
                          started car production with versions of the same vehicle
                          Their last model derives from the same car

-One manufacturer:        worked for the other
                          had a relative working for the other
                          was a pilot in the other car
                          built under license the aircraft engines designed by the other
                          built the engines for the airships made in the company directed by the other

-The name of one car and: the driver of the second,
                          the name of a special version of the other
                          the circuit where it raced,
                          the part introduced first time,
                          the name of the actor who played in a movie featuring the other car,
                          the same name in a different language,
                          the name of the city founded,
                          the number of cars produced,
                          the number of one dimension of the other,
                          the name of the engine

-The same:                man owned the design-house of the 1st and was a dealer for the 2nd
                          man was director of the first and founded the second company
                          man designed one car and the car which inspired the other

[75america]

1936 White Red Bus for Glacier National Park and 1989 Alfa Romeo SZ

Both had only one official colour scheme.

[Paul Jaray]

Nice one!
White Red Bus 1936 and Alfa Romeo SZ 1989  both cars have only one official colour scheme

[Ehhxekt]

1989 Alfa Romeo SZ and 1967 Rover P6 BS. Both names contain an acronym referring to a different company.

SZ = Sport Zagato, BS = Buick Sport.

[Paul Jaray]

that's really on the edge...
(both cars have a name referring to different manufacturers)
but it's a new one! 
Alfa Romeo SZ 1989    and  Rover P6 BS  1967   Both cars have a  name containing an acronym that refers to a different company (Zagato-Buick)

[Allan L]

Rover P6 BS 1967 and Columbia LX Electric Runabout 1903
Both companies had their origins in producing versions of the Micheaux Velocipede.
Rowley Turner and James Starley founded the Coventry Machinists Co to make Micheaux cycles, which eventually developed into a cycle called Rover, after which the company was subsequently named.
Pierre Lallemont left Micheaux to go to the USof A wher he was granted a US patent for the Micheaux Velocipede. He sold this on to Albert Pope, founder of the Columbia Cycle Co. in Hartford, CT which later made electric and IC-engines motor vehicles

[75america]

that's really on the edge...
(both cars have a name referring to different manufacturers)
but it's a new one! 
Alfa Romeo SZ 1989    and  Rover P6 BS  1967   Both cars have a  name containing an acronym that refers to a different company (Zagato-Buick)

I'm not the jury of this game...but I'm not sure this entry is valid.

Reason is that by my knowledge, there never was an official statement with the explanation where SZ stands for in the ES 30 car case.   
For all other Alfa Romeo SZ type cars, it stood officially for 'Sprint Zagato'.
So most people assume that also in this case, it stands for Sprint Zagato.  (Some exceptions like  Ehhxekt think  that it stands for 'Sport Zagato' but that sounds more like a Lancia name to me)
So, is there somewhere an official statement that the Z in SZ stands for Zagato?

[Paul Jaray]

Your comments are always wellcome, because You are one of the most competent in automotive history I know.
No, I don't have (so far) an official source that the Z in SZ stands for Zagato and I'll look in some magazines, but in all Zagato's history there was a Z in the name that stood (sometimes officially) for Zagato. If your question is if it is official, I don't know, but I'm sure that's the intent. In the connection I wrote that there is an acronym that refers to a company and IMHO the Z refers to Zagato.

[75america]

1903 Columbia LX Electric Runabout and 1968 Autobianchi G.31

Both companies were created as a joint venture
Columbia => Pope Manufacturing Company and Electric Vehicle Company
Autobianchi =>Bianchi, Pirelli and Fiat

[Paul Jaray]

Alright then:
Rover P6 BS 1967 and Columbia LX Electric Runabout 1903    Both companies had their origins in producing versions of the same vehicle
(I have to trust you on this because you know more than the Beaulieu! )
Columbia LX Electric Runabout 1903 and   Autobianchi Coupe (G.31) 1968    Both companies were created as a joint venture

[Ehhxekt]

I'm not the jury of this game...but I'm not sure this entry is valid.

Reason is that by my knowledge, there never was an official statement with the explanation where SZ stands for in the ES 30 car case.   
For all other Alfa Romeo SZ type cars, it stood officially for 'Sprint Zagato'.
So most people assume that also in this case, it stands for Sprint Zagato.  (Some exceptions like  Ehhxekt think  that it stands for 'Sport Zagato' but that sounds more like a Lancia name to me)
So, is there somewhere an official statement that the Z in SZ stands for Zagato?

Your comments are always wellcome, because You are one of the most competent in automotive history I know.
No, I don't have (so far) an official source that the Z in SZ stands for Zagato and I'll look in some magazines, but in all Zagato's history there was a Z in the name that stood (sometimes officially) for Zagato. If your question is if it is official, I don't know, but I'm sure that's the intent. In the connection I wrote that there is an acronym that refers to a company and IMHO the Z refers to Zagato.

My information about the meaning of 'SZ' may well be false – I admit it sounded to me so evident that I didn't bother to check it. Now that my fragile entry is buried by two brilliant suggestions, I can only say I am sorry. Otherwise I would have proposed to go back to the Alfa and discard my last post.

[Paul Jaray]

Nothing to be sorry about, if SZ do not stand officially for "whatsoever Zagato" there are strong elements (almost all the Zagato products) that suggest that the Z may refers to Zagato and your connection is valid. Allan suggestion is also valid but  written in this form "Both cars have a  name containing an acronym that refers to a different company " it fits well.

[Allan L]

Allan suggestion is also valid but  written in this form "Both cars have a  name containing an acronym that refers to a different company " it fits well.

Not mine: that link was from Ehhxekt

[Paul Jaray]

I know, your comment about the origin of SZ is still valid, there is no official source about that, but Ehhxekt's link, written in that form, avoid the problem, because, I hope You agree, that Z if not stands for Zagato, it refers to it.

[75america]

I know, your comment about the origin of SZ is still valid, there is no official source about that, but Ehhxekt's link, written in that form, avoid the problem, because, I hope You agree, that Z if not stands for Zagato, it refers to it.

That was my comment, not Allan L's. 
And yes, I agree that, although not proven,  the Z in SZ most probably refers to Zagato (to what else?).

[Paul Jaray]

I'm getting old!
I totally messed up your replies!
Whatever, sorry for the caos, let's proceed!

[Paul Jaray]

Columbia LX Electric Runabout 1903 and   Autobianchi Coupe (G.31) 1968    Both companies were created as a joint venture
Few days and 75america can add another link, or few weeks and He will get his points.....unless...

[Otto Puzzell]

Autobianchi Coupe (G.31) and Citroen Traction Avant. Both companies were at least partially owned by tire companies. Autobianchi was a joint venture of Bianchi, Pirelli and Fiat. In 1934, Citroen was taken over by its biggest creditor, Michelin.

[Paul Jaray]

 
Columbia LX Electric Runabout 1903 and   Autobianchi Coupe (G.31) 1968    Both companies were created as a joint venture
Autobianchi Coupe (G.31) 1968       and    Citroen 11CV Traction Avant 1935               Both companies were (at least partially) owned by tire companies

[DynaMike]

The action Avant shown in Otto Puzzell's picture is the very first 11 (later known as 11 Normale), built between September 1934 and January 1935 (longer wheel base than the earlier 7 and the 11 Légère, still signal horns on the bumper). So technically a 1934 car, though regarded as (early) 1935 model year.

[Paul Jaray]

Thanks!