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Title: PAFW Fun #84 - Chief Antonio / Elmore Pathfinder / 1904 St Louis World's Fair
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 23, 2011, 03:30:22 AM
An automotive anachronism? No, not really.

For 1 point, ID the car, the driver, the place, and the year.

Be sure to answer all parts of the question, if you'd like the point. Only complete answers will earn a point[/b]

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Title: Re: PAFW Fun #84
Post by: Oguerrerob on November 23, 2011, 06:13:14 AM
From the Amazon: Brazilian?
Title: Re: PAFW Fun #84
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 23, 2011, 07:14:19 AM
Not from there.
Title: Re: PAFW Fun #84
Post by: woodinsight on November 23, 2011, 07:15:07 AM
Papua New Guinea?
Title: Re: PAFW Fun #84
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 23, 2011, 07:42:38 AM
Far from there
Title: Re: PAFW Fun #84
Post by: Oguerrerob on November 23, 2011, 07:51:32 AM
South American at all?
Title: Re: PAFW Fun #84
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 23, 2011, 07:52:50 AM
Which part of the puzzle are you asking about?

Car?
Driver?
Location?
Title: Re: PAFW Fun #84
Post by: Oguerrerob on November 23, 2011, 08:55:33 AM
Driver and location. So could guess what car could get that far
Title: Re: PAFW Fun #84
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 23, 2011, 01:03:37 PM
OK - rule of thumb here is 'one guess at a time'.

In any case, the car and the driver are not from any of the locations guessed so far.
Title: Re: PAFW Fun #84
Post by: Oguerrerob on November 23, 2011, 06:26:33 PM
the driver: from a Pacific Island?
Title: Re: PAFW Fun #84
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 24, 2011, 03:37:31 AM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on November 23, 2011, 06:26:33 PM
the driver: from a Pacific Island?

Yes!
Title: Re: PAFW Fun #84
Post by: pnegyesi on November 27, 2011, 03:54:23 AM
Is the driver  from Fiji?
Title: Re: PAFW Fun #84
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 27, 2011, 03:56:12 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on November 27, 2011, 03:54:23 AM
Is the driver  from Fiji?

No
Title: Re: PAFW Fun #84
Post by: pnegyesi on November 27, 2011, 03:59:38 AM
Is this a Winton automobile?
Title: Re: PAFW Fun #84
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 27, 2011, 04:01:14 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on November 27, 2011, 03:59:38 AM
Is this a Winton automobile?

No
Title: Re: PAFW Fun #84
Post by: pnegyesi on November 27, 2011, 07:14:06 AM
Car was made in USA?
Title: Re: PAFW Fun #84
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 27, 2011, 07:14:48 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on November 27, 2011, 07:14:06 AM
Car was made in USA?

Yes
Title: Re: PAFW Fun #84
Post by: pnegyesi on November 27, 2011, 07:23:40 AM
A well-known brand?
Title: Re: PAFW Fun #84
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 27, 2011, 07:28:17 AM
Long gone, but not completely unknown.
Title: Re: PAFW Fun #84
Post by: pnegyesi on November 27, 2011, 08:10:05 AM
Rambler? I mean the car, is that a rambler?
Title: Re: PAFW Fun #84
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 27, 2011, 08:11:36 AM
Not a Rambler
Title: Re: PAFW Fun #84
Post by: pnegyesi on November 27, 2011, 08:13:56 AM
Has the photo been taken at one of the southern Pacific Islands?
Title: Re: PAFW Fun #84
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 27, 2011, 08:15:21 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on November 27, 2011, 08:13:56 AM
Has the photo been taken at one of the southern Pacific Islands?

No
Title: Re: PAFW Fun #84
Post by: pnegyesi on November 27, 2011, 08:17:49 AM
Cook Islands?
Title: Re: PAFW Fun #84
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 27, 2011, 08:19:06 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on November 27, 2011, 08:17:49 AM
Cook Islands?

I would consider those South Pacific islands, so, no.
Title: Re: PAFW Fun #84
Post by: pnegyesi on November 27, 2011, 08:25:13 AM
Hawaii?
Title: Re: PAFW Fun #84
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 27, 2011, 08:27:05 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on November 27, 2011, 08:25:13 AM
Hawaii?

No
Title: Re: PAFW Fun #84
Post by: pnegyesi on November 27, 2011, 08:28:53 AM
Guam?
Title: Re: PAFW Fun #84
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 27, 2011, 08:29:50 AM
The photo was not taken anywhere in the Pacific.
Title: Re: PAFW Fun #84
Post by: pnegyesi on November 27, 2011, 08:31:10 AM
Was the photo taken in Africa?
Title: Re: PAFW Fun #84
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 27, 2011, 08:33:20 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on November 27, 2011, 08:31:10 AM
Was the photo taken in Africa?

No
Title: Re: PAFW Fun #84
Post by: pnegyesi on November 27, 2011, 08:34:23 AM
Is this a staged photo or are these people native in the location?
Title: Re: PAFW Fun #84
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 27, 2011, 08:35:56 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on November 27, 2011, 08:34:23 AM
Is this a staged photo or are these people native in the location?

These people are natives of a place far from where the picture was taken.
Title: Re: PAFW Fun #84
Post by: pnegyesi on November 27, 2011, 08:36:32 AM
So was the picture taken at an exhibition?
Title: Re: PAFW Fun #84
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 27, 2011, 08:38:07 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on November 27, 2011, 08:36:32 AM
So was the picture taken at an exhibition?

A-ha!

Yes, it was
Title: Re: PAFW Fun #84
Post by: pnegyesi on November 27, 2011, 08:39:10 AM
Was this an automobile show?
Title: Re: PAFW Fun #84
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 27, 2011, 08:39:42 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on November 27, 2011, 08:39:10 AM
Was this an automobile show?

No
Title: Re: PAFW Fun #84
Post by: pnegyesi on November 27, 2011, 08:40:47 AM
Was this an exhibition in the 1920s?
Title: Re: PAFW Fun #84
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 27, 2011, 08:42:15 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on November 27, 2011, 08:40:47 AM
Was this an exhibition in the 1920s?

No
Title: Re: PAFW Fun #84
Post by: pnegyesi on November 27, 2011, 08:48:30 AM
Earlier?
Title: Re: PAFW Fun #84
Post by: Wendax on November 27, 2011, 08:49:47 AM
A world exhibition?
Title: Re: PAFW Fun #84
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 27, 2011, 09:09:47 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on November 27, 2011, 08:48:30 AM
Earlier?

Yes
Title: Re: PAFW Fun #84
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 27, 2011, 09:10:32 AM
Quote from: Wendax on November 27, 2011, 08:49:47 AM
A world exhibition?

Yes
Title: Re: PAFW Fun #84
Post by: pnegyesi on November 27, 2011, 09:17:48 AM
1904 St Louis World's Fair?
Title: Re: PAFW Fun #84
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 27, 2011, 09:19:41 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on November 27, 2011, 09:17:48 AM
1904 St Louis World's Fair?

Yes!

I suspect the car will now be easy to identify. The driver, perhaps not.
Title: Re: PAFW Fun #84
Post by: Wendax on November 27, 2011, 09:29:00 AM
Picture made in the Igorot village?
Title: Re: PAFW Fun #84
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 27, 2011, 09:33:26 AM
Yes!
Title: Re: PAFW Fun #84
Post by: pnegyesi on November 27, 2011, 09:38:39 AM
Was the driver Antonio, the Igorot chief? BTW Igorot means Philippines
Title: Re: PAFW Fun #84
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 27, 2011, 09:43:09 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on November 27, 2011, 09:38:39 AM
Was the driver Antonio, the Igorot chief? BTW Igorot means Philippines

That's him!

And, I never said the driver wasn't from a Pacific island (the Philippines, for instance  ;) ). I said the picture was not taken on a Pacific Island
Title: Re: PAFW Fun #84
Post by: pnegyesi on November 27, 2011, 09:46:11 AM
I think the car was called Pathfinder, but I have yet to find the brand

"Under the triangular bamboo frame from which hung three buffalo skulls, Antonio, chief of the Bontoc Igorito sat at the wheel of the Pathfinder, to have his "picture took".
Title: Re: PAFW Fun #84
Post by: Wendax on November 27, 2011, 09:49:47 AM
It is an Elmore Pathfinder.
Title: Re: PAFW Fun #84
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 27, 2011, 09:50:05 AM
Quote from: Wendax on November 27, 2011, 09:49:47 AM
It is an Elmore Pathfinder.

Correct!

Philippine Igorot chief Antonio, headhunter by profession, dog eater by choice, in an Elmore Pathfinder, at the 1904 St Louis World's Fair Philippines Exhibit. Elmore Manufacturing Company, Clyde, Ohio.

The Elmore Pathfinder, which was produced in the spring of 1904, participated in the American Automobile Association sponsored race from New York to the St. Louis World's Fair in July, surprisingly winning the event.
Title: Re: PAFW Fun #84 - Chief Antonio / Elmore Pathfinder / 1904 St Louis World's Fair
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 27, 2011, 09:56:06 AM
One point each for Wendax and pnegyesi