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Title: Solved (?): PN #161 -- Wanderwell's world touring Ford with someone calling himself "Captain P Teo O
Post by: pnegyesi on April 29, 2011, 02:53:02 AM
Please tell me everything you know about this expedition. Identifying the man and the approximate time will be worth a point.
Title: Re: PN #161
Post by: pnegyesi on May 07, 2011, 05:54:27 AM
Experts?
Title: Re: PN #161
Post by: Aaron65 on May 09, 2011, 06:38:23 AM
Is this a picture of an around the world type of expedition?
Title: Re: PN #161
Post by: pnegyesi on May 09, 2011, 07:42:58 AM
Yes
Title: Re: PN #161
Post by: pnegyesi on May 14, 2011, 12:26:48 PM
Professionals?
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Post by: guido66 on May 14, 2011, 04:49:04 PM
Does it say Norway on the rear wheel? Was the picture taken in Kristianstad, Sweden?
Title: Re: PN #161
Post by: pnegyesi on May 14, 2011, 11:42:09 PM
The picture was definitely not taken in Sweden, though it may say Norway on the rear wheel
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Post by: guido66 on May 15, 2011, 09:09:14 AM
Is the year 1933?
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Post by: neilshouse on May 15, 2011, 09:55:36 AM
Is there a connection to Aloha Wanderwell?
Title: Re: PN #161
Post by: pnegyesi on May 15, 2011, 11:48:34 AM
I'm not aware of any
Title: Re: PN #161
Post by: guido66 on May 15, 2011, 11:56:34 AM
Is the year 1933?
  ;)?
Title: Re: PN #161
Post by: pnegyesi on May 15, 2011, 11:58:43 AM
Yes, the picture is from 1933 - sorry missed your earlier question
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Post by: guido66 on May 15, 2011, 01:07:20 PM
Danish-American Alaska expedition?
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Post by: pnegyesi on May 15, 2011, 01:24:32 PM
Nope
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Post by: guido66 on May 15, 2011, 02:15:18 PM
Was the photo taken in a Scandinavian country?
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Post by: pnegyesi on May 15, 2011, 11:24:07 PM
Nope
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Post by: guido66 on May 16, 2011, 01:24:45 AM
The Netherlands?
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Post by: pnegyesi on May 16, 2011, 02:36:02 AM
This photo itself wasn't taken in The Netherlands... (hint, hint)
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Post by: guido66 on May 16, 2011, 05:27:07 AM
So the left car does have a Dutch registration? L-4 is a very low number, so it must have been an important person in Utrecht.
Title: Re: PN #161
Post by: pnegyesi on May 16, 2011, 05:38:38 AM
This expedition has strong Dutch connections
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Post by: guido66 on May 16, 2011, 02:13:14 PM
A bit of architectural puzzling has convinced me that it must be in Kristianstad. The 1st photo is from before the 1936-1940 extension and modification of the city hall, during which time they also must have altered the facade slightly. The 2nd photo is a present day detail of the "Pax Vobis" inscription.
Title: Re: PN #161
Post by: pnegyesi on May 16, 2011, 02:25:55 PM
It is not Kristianstad. Photo-location is not important - I think
Title: Re: PN #161
Post by: guido66 on May 16, 2011, 02:43:07 PM
I know that I'm stubborn but I'm convinced that your source is wrong about the city. ::) Anyway, Kristianstad seems to be a dead end, so I'll take another approach:

Was it a pole to pole journey?
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Post by: DeAutogids on May 16, 2011, 03:27:43 PM
Any connection with Norway?
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Post by: Allemano on May 16, 2011, 03:36:23 PM
Even though it might be not important for solving this puzzle I guess guido66 is right saying that these buildings are identical. Even the neighbour building is the same.
Title: Re: PN #161
Post by: pnegyesi on May 16, 2011, 03:38:06 PM
Okay, I will check my source tomorrow and will get back to you
Title: Re: PN #161
Post by: guido66 on May 16, 2011, 05:23:54 PM
Any relation to the 1934 Alexandria-Stockholm-Gibraltar roundtrip?
Title: Re: PN #161
Post by: pnegyesi on May 17, 2011, 02:58:19 AM
Okay, I was mislead by the fact that the photo album is not from Sweden. But guido66 was right, this picture was taken in Kristianstad, Sweden. I am sorry for the confusion.

It seems this is a promotional picture, taken at the end of his trip around 1932. It took 12 years, crossed 4 continents and 52 countries. The man on the picture is of Dutch origin, but at the time of his trip his residence was somewhere else.

How's that for clues :)?
Title: Re: PN #161
Post by: guido66 on May 17, 2011, 02:14:02 PM
A lot of clues indeed, but I still cannot find it. Did he travel with his wife?
Title: Re: PN #161
Post by: pnegyesi on May 17, 2011, 03:34:41 PM
Among other people, yes
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Post by: guido66 on May 17, 2011, 04:05:09 PM
Did he write a book about his journey?
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Post by: pnegyesi on May 17, 2011, 11:39:19 PM
Dear fellow AutoPuzzlers. I am not going to reveal the identity of the puzzle car. But I can tell you, that most of the previous clues were fake - and I am truly innocent.

Let me explain further. This photo, along with another one comes from a photo album put together by the Győr Automobile Club, depicting their activities between 1929-1939. This photos shows a certain Mr Osterhaus, of Dutch original, who was living in Miami, Florida and who was supposed to be a world traveller and met his wife during the world trip.

The only problem is, that I know found a lot of reports online about this trip and the man who _really_ did the world travel was dead by the time this impostor came to Hungary (years later) to talk about his adventures! This is getting more interesting, isn't it?

So, you can find easily this world travel online. It was with a Ford, it was a world around trip
Title: Re: PN #161
Post by: Tom_I on May 18, 2011, 12:19:45 PM
So was this gentleman pretending to be Captain Walter Wanderwell, who made a round-the-world trip in a couple of modified Model T Fords? Wanderwell was actually Polish, called Johannes Piecynski, and had been briefly imprisoned as a spy in the US during WW1. He recruited a young woman called Idris Galcia Hall on the French leg of his expedition, and they later married, after Wanderwell divorced his first wife. She was known by the name Aloha Wanderwell.

They completed the expedition in 1925, and produced a film documentary called "With Car and Camera Around the World".

Walter Wanderwell was shot and killed on his yacht in Long Beach, California in December 1932, and the killer was never identified, so he could not have been in Sweden in 1933, if that's when the puzzle photo dates from.

Or have I got the wrong round-the-world trip? ;D
Title: Re: PN #161
Post by: pnegyesi on May 18, 2011, 11:44:04 PM
Date of the puzzle picture is unknown. "Mr Osterhaus" was in Hungary in early 1933. And it seems this Mr Osterhaus was in Hong Kong in 1939 so the story gets more twisted.

But the car is definitely the Wanderwell Ford, so a point goes to Tom_I.

I'll keep you posted on the developments and possible identification.

For now the original picture is featured at the beginning of this puzzle.
Title: Re: Solved (?): PN #161 -- Wanderwell's world touring Ford with someone calling himself "Captain P T
Post by: guido66 on May 19, 2011, 01:15:54 AM
What about Neilshouse? He was the first to ask about Wanderwell?
Title: Re: Solved (?): PN #161 -- Wanderwell's world touring Ford with someone calling himself "Captain P T
Post by: pnegyesi on May 19, 2011, 02:31:18 AM
Quite so, I forgot all about it. So another point goes to neilshouse. This puzzle confused me
Title: Re: Solved (?): PN #161 -- Wanderwell's world touring Ford with someone calling himself "Captain P T
Post by: guido66 on May 19, 2011, 05:58:21 PM
It is very confusing indeed  :)

I'm not at all convinced that it's one of Wanderwell cars. If the guy on the photo was an imposter, he could just as well dress up any Ford he could get his hands on.

Here's the car in Eindhoven, Netherlands in november 1932. Note the local Ford dealer name on the spare tire cover. Sadly there's no article with this photo.
Title: Re: Solved (?): PN #161 -- Wanderwell's world touring Ford with someone calling himself "Captain P T
Post by: guido66 on May 19, 2011, 06:37:06 PM
Reading and investigating further I found this newspaper message, in which Osterhouse claims to be a member of WAWEC – Work Around the World Educational Club, which links him directly with the Wanderwells.

I found some more information on Wawec, and it seems they travelled in small groups all over the world, promoting disarmament.

My conclusion is that Osterhouse/Osterhaus was not an imposter, but a just another Wawec member doing what he believed in. According to the Dutch article there were 23 of these cars around the globe.
Title: Re: Solved (?): PN #161 -- Wanderwell's world touring Ford with someone calling himself "Captain P T
Post by: pnegyesi on May 19, 2011, 11:42:20 PM
Thanks, it is very interesting. And it all started with two innocent photos...
Title: Re: Solved (?): PN #161 -- Wanderwell's world touring Ford with someone calling himself "Captain P T
Post by: woodinsight on May 20, 2011, 06:44:52 AM
Great research there Guido.
It makes interesting reading.
Title: Re: Solved (?): PN #161 -- Wanderwell's world touring Ford with someone calling himself "Captain P T
Post by: guido66 on May 21, 2011, 05:57:28 PM
A few more Wanderwell finds:
Title: Re: Solved (?): PN #161 -- Wanderwell's world touring Ford with someone calling himself "Captain P T
Post by: Wanderwell on May 30, 2011, 10:46:25 PM
Thank you all...that was very interesting, and yes I think there might have been around 44 teams or approx. 150 WAWEC members.
that Captain Wanderwell had signed up, Around the World. I have in the collection most of the signed WAWEC memberships that he collected for his World peace program. This was of course put together because of the inspiration that Walter had after his meetings with the League of Nations before setting out on the world adventures.
I'm are looking for any of the Wanderwell Automobiles. If anyone knows where they may be , please contact me.
The auto's had USA Presidents, Foreign Dignitary's and Famous movie stars signing the hoods. I would think at least one of those hoods
would have ended up in a collection.

Cheers
Richard Diamond
grandson of Aloha Wanderwell

http://www.AlohaWanderwell.com



Title: Re: Solved (?): PN #161 -- Wanderwell's world touring Ford with someone calling himself "Captain P T
Post by: Wendax on January 29, 2014, 01:01:51 PM
Another pic: