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Title: Solved: 339. by Allemano - 1976 Schleiz Coupé by Kalle Keel
Post by: Allemano on November 10, 2009, 09:25:29 AM
There's not much I know about this car — maybe you have the right idea!
Title: Re: 339. by Allemano
Post by: Allemano on November 24, 2009, 01:01:15 PM
Experts?
Title: Re: 339. by Allemano
Post by: 75america on November 24, 2009, 01:34:29 PM
Related to Gordini?
Title: Re: 339. by Allemano
Post by: Allemano on November 24, 2009, 01:38:08 PM
 :shakehead:
Title: Re: 339. by Allemano
Post by: guido66 on November 24, 2009, 03:31:14 PM
from Eastern Europe?
Title: Re: 339. by Allemano
Post by: Allemano on November 24, 2009, 03:41:39 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: 339. by Allemano
Post by: guido66 on November 24, 2009, 03:45:19 PM
Skoda inside?
Title: Re: 339. by Allemano
Post by: Allemano on November 24, 2009, 03:54:02 PM
To be honest: my source gives one comment in which the user assumes it's Skoda based. But I've found no confirmation for that.
I guess it's not reliable and other donors should be considered as well.
Title: Re: 339. by Allemano
Post by: Allemano on December 28, 2009, 04:40:46 AM
any ideas Pros?
Title: Re: 339. by Allemano
Post by: Allemano on April 06, 2010, 03:50:01 AM
 down the BH...
Title: Re: 339. by Allemano
Post by: pnegyesi on April 06, 2010, 03:56:39 AM
from the former Czechoslovakia?
Title: Re: 339. by Allemano
Post by: Allemano on April 06, 2010, 04:02:56 AM
As far as I know it's from somewhere of the Ex-Soviet Union
Title: Re: 339. by Allemano
Post by: Allemano on April 06, 2010, 05:52:41 AM
I made some research and got some new informations about this car:
I have a year.
a name of the car (?)
the name of the designer/builder
the country where it had been built.

The country got absorbed by the Soviet Union, but is part of EU and NATO today...
Title: Re: 339. by Allemano
Post by: pnegyesi on April 06, 2010, 06:06:21 AM
Which means one of the three Baltic countries
Title: Re: 339. by Allemano
Post by: Allemano on April 06, 2010, 06:15:35 AM
well-investigated..
Title: Re: 339. by Allemano
Post by: pnegyesi on April 06, 2010, 06:33:46 AM
Estonia?
Title: Re: 339. by Allemano
Post by: Allemano on April 06, 2010, 06:34:52 AM
Yes!
Title: Re: 339. by Allemano
Post by: pnegyesi on April 06, 2010, 06:39:39 AM
(http://www.hot.ee/galerii22/aj/schleiz1v.jpg)

Auto Schleiz coupe, built in Tallin by "Tallinna Autode Remondi Katsetehase" if I understand correctly. An article was featured on it in 1976 where it says it took 5 years to build this car
Title: Re: 339. by Allemano
Post by: Allemano on April 06, 2010, 06:43:08 AM
Amazing! :applause:
A little more additional info would be nice though!
Title: Re: 339. by Allemano
Post by: Allemano on April 06, 2010, 06:45:16 AM
I still leave it in this section of the board to collect a little more info!
Title: Re: 339. by Allemano
Post by: Arunas on April 06, 2010, 07:42:03 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on April 06, 2010, 06:39:39 AM
(http://www.hot.ee/galerii22/aj/schleiz1v.jpg)

Auto Schleiz coupe, built in Tallin by "Tallinna Autode Remondi Katsetehase" if I understand correctly. An article was featured on it in 1976 where it says it took 5 years to build this car

Is it possible to know the source of the article?
Title: Re: 339. by Allemano
Post by: faksta on April 06, 2010, 11:28:19 AM
A true discovery for me! It is the same factory which has produced racing Estonias, but I have never heard of something like this from them...

The info I could find says it was built by Kalle Keel.
Title: Re: 339. by Allemano
Post by: Allemano on April 06, 2010, 12:01:36 PM
Yes that's the name I have for the designer..
Title: Re: 339. by Allemano
Post by: Allemano on May 01, 2010, 06:34:42 AM
Moved it to the Solveds now. Additional infos are still appreciated.
Title: Re: Solved: 339. by Allemano - 1976 Schleiz Coupé by Kalle Keel
Post by: Djetset on May 04, 2010, 06:06:04 PM
Any idea what this car was based around mechanically?
Title: Re: Solved: 339. by Allemano - 1976 Schleiz Coupé by Kalle Keel
Post by: faksta on May 05, 2010, 05:34:43 AM
I know that two of these cars were built, probably both are alive. The mechanicals are from ZAZ.
Title: Re: Solved: 339. by Allemano - 1976 Schleiz Coupé by Kalle Keel
Post by: Allemano on May 05, 2010, 10:38:04 AM
Some say  it was built around Skoda mechanicals.
Title: Re: Solved: 339. by Allemano - 1976 Schleiz Coupé by Kalle Keel
Post by: DeAutogids.nl on May 05, 2010, 11:16:07 AM
Quote from: Allemano on May 05, 2010, 10:38:04 AM
Some say  it was built around Skoda mechanicals.
Why do I get here an image of a man dressed in white?
Title: Re: Solved: 339. by Allemano - 1976 Schleiz Coupé by Kalle Keel
Post by: Allemano on May 05, 2010, 11:17:16 AM
Probably the Stig?
Title: Re: Solved: 339. by Allemano - 1976 Schleiz Coupé by Kalle Keel
Post by: DeAutogids.nl on May 05, 2010, 11:18:55 AM
That, or Bibendum.
Title: Re: Solved: 339. by Allemano - 1976 Schleiz Coupé by Kalle Keel
Post by: milos62 on May 08, 2010, 09:04:00 AM
ARUNAS:  It was published in "Tehnika ja Tootmine" --- "Maschinery and Production"   - 7/1976.
Title: Re: Solved: 339. by Allemano - 1976 Schleiz Coupé by Kalle Keel
Post by: vdp on June 19, 2010, 01:04:08 PM
2 of those were built, one was for sale a couple of years ago, the other one is rotting away in Tallinn, parked in a garden next to a Estonia 21 wreck and some other old soviet cars. It is rear engined, with ZAZ powerplant and glassfibre body. If I recall correctly, there was a capacity limit for road-going self-built cars in USSR, it was probably about 1 litre. That's why ZAZ engine had to be used, all the other passenger car engines in USSR were atleast 1,2-litres or larger. Kalle Keel was chief designer in TARK, but I think this car was more like his private project, than a prototype for the Estonia factory - it was hard to buy a car in Soviet Union, so some people decided to make their own cars. I'm not kidding.
I haven't got any articles about it so I don't know more details.
Title: Re: Solved: 339. by Allemano - 1976 Schleiz Coupé by Kalle Keel
Post by: Allemano on June 19, 2010, 01:26:52 PM
Well these are at least some very interisting new aspects, thanks! :)
Title: Re: Solved: 339. by Allemano - 1976 Schleiz Coupé by Kalle Keel
Post by: faksta on June 20, 2010, 05:19:43 PM
As far as I know, at least one of these cars is planned to be restored in a near future, so maybe we'll be able to see its new born.
Title: Re: Solved: 339. by Allemano - 1976 Schleiz Coupé by Kalle Keel
Post by: barrett on June 21, 2010, 02:53:53 AM
Quote from: faksta on June 20, 2010, 05:19:43 PM
As far as I know, at least one of these cars is planned to be restored in a near future, so maybe we'll be able to see its new born.

That's fantastic news! I really like the styling of this car, a very neat design, if a little dated for '76 (hey, things moved slower behind the iron curtain...) If it had been built in western europe on Fiat mechanicals it would probably be worth tens of thousands now  :)
Title: Re: Solved: 339. by Allemano - 1976 Schleiz Coupé by Kalle Keel
Post by: Arunas on June 21, 2010, 03:00:47 AM
Does anybody know any other self-built cars from Estonia? I know only one example without this.
Title: Re: Solved: 339. by Allemano - 1976 Schleiz Coupé by Kalle Keel
Post by: jotage21 on August 01, 2011, 07:45:47 PM
I know the Misovskij Artur, the Forum, the Ulle and the Tallinn
Title: Re: Solved: 339. by Allemano - 1976 Schleiz Coupé by Kalle Keel
Post by: Arunas on August 02, 2011, 01:18:06 AM
Quote from: jotage21 on August 01, 2011, 07:45:47 PM
I know the Misovskij Artur, the Forum, the Ulle and the Tallinn

Please PM/email me about the Ulle and Tallinn.