Who can identify these trucks, busses, machines etc.?
As usual one point for the right and complete answer!
Note: in this puzzle I won't lock any vehicle for anyone. Try to find the complete make and model designation or probably another one will steal your well earned point...
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#2: Maz Perestroika
#10: Bernard (from France, taken over by Mack)
#17 probably Kato
#18, I think BelAZ-548A
#20: I suppose that must be a Saurer-OM
I think I've seen #7 as a Scheuerle?
One post only would be easier to handle..
Note: in this puzzle I won't lock any vehicle for anyone. Try to find the complete name as written above or probably another one steals your well earned point...Quote from: DeAutogids on February 02, 2011, 11:06:16 AM
#2: Maz Perestroika
Right but not complete!
Quote from: DeAutogids on February 02, 2011, 11:08:48 AM
#10: Bernard (from France, taken over by Mack)
Right, but not complete!
Quote from: DeAutogids on February 02, 2011, 11:10:47 AM
#17 probably Kato
Right, but not complete
Quote from: DeAutogids on February 02, 2011, 11:12:06 AM
#18, I think BelAZ-548A
Almost correct!
Quote from: DeAutogids on February 02, 2011, 11:12:56 AM
#20: I suppose that must be a Saurer-OM
No!
Quote from: DeAutogids on February 02, 2011, 11:14:25 AM
I think I've seen #7 as a Scheuerle?
Right, but not complete!
#2 MAZ 2000 Perestroika
#10: Bernard TDA
#17: Kato 2200
#18: Belaz 540a?
#20: OM?
#7: Scheuerle LS 250
I knew I had seen #14: a Kramer Allrad
Quote from: DeAutogids on February 02, 2011, 12:04:24 PM
I knew I had seen #14: a Kramer Allrad
as usual: correct, but not complete! :-\
#08 - AEC Reliance with Duple coachwork
Quote from: DeAutogids on February 02, 2011, 11:37:15 AM
#10: Bernard TDA Right, but there's something missing (something you've mentioned before!)
#17: Kato 2200 :thumbsdown:
#18: Belaz 540a? :thumbsup:
#20: OM? Not a OM!
#7: Scheuerle LS 250 :thumbsup:
Quote from: DeAutogids on February 02, 2011, 12:49:44 PM
Quote from: Allemano on February 02, 2011, 12:29:25 PM
Quote from: DeAutogids on February 02, 2011, 12:04:24 PM
I knew I had seen #14: a Kramer Allrad
as usual: correct, but not complete! :-\
Maybe you miss Universal.
Not that.
Quote from: DeAutogids on February 02, 2011, 12:50:35 PM
Quote from: Allemano on February 02, 2011, 12:35:36 PM
Quote from: DeAutogids on February 02, 2011, 11:37:15 AM
#10: Bernard TDA Right, but there's something missing (something you've mentioned before!)
Mack?
Quote from: Allemano on February 02, 2011, 12:35:36 PM
Quote from: DeAutogids on February 02, 2011, 11:37:15 AM
#17: Kato 2200 :thumbsdown:
Kato 3300?
and #20maybe Eicher?
#17 Not Kato 3300
#20: Eicher is correct, but again not complete
#10: Mack is the name I was waiting for:
Surprised. Are you looking for anything involving numbers? If so, I would suggest that might be the engine designation. If not:
Strassenschlepper?
Quote from: DeAutogids on February 02, 2011, 01:01:30 PM
Surprised. Are you looking for anything involving numbers? If so, I would suggest that might be the engine designation. If not:
Strassenschlepper?
Yes!
Kramer: Anything with KDH (Klockner-Humboldt-Deutz)?
Kato: 1700?
Eicher: Transexpress?
Quote from: DeAutogids on February 02, 2011, 01:09:30 PM
Kramer: Anything with KDH (Klockner-Humboldt-Deutz)?
Kato: 1700?
Eicher: Transexpress?
Eicher Transexpress it is! :thumbsup:
Kato:
1700Kramer: Yes,
KHD is part of the name.
A score list was missing:
#01 Kress CH-240 C (Wendax)
#02 MAZ 2000 Perestroika (DeAutogids)
#03 Berliet T100 (DeAutogids)
#04 Orion WH 159 (Wendax)
#05 LAZ Ukraine 67 (Wendax)
#06 Carrozzeria Viberti Fast AT1007 bus by Ricciotti Tonon (Carnut)
#07 Scheuerle LS 250 (DeAutogids)
#08 AEC Reliance with Duple coachwork (woodinsight)
#09 ERF 6x66 Cummings (Wendax)
#10 Bernard Mack TDA (DeAutogids)
#11 Lindner T 3500 (DeAutogids)
#12 Melrose M880 Pusher 8x8 built by CF&I Engineering (Oguerrerob)
#13 Bucher TR 1500 (DeAutogids)
#14 KHD KramerAllrad F6L912 (also known as KA 540) (DeAutogids)
#15 Saurer prototype 12S5FA (DeAutogids)
#16 RAF-977 DM Latvija (DeAutogids)
#17 Kato Nk-160 S (Wendax)
#18 Belaz 540A (DeAutogids)
#19 Carozzeria Barbi Fiat 682 "Super-Panoramico" (Carnut)
#20 Eicher Transexpress (DeAutogids)
Quote from: Allemano on February 02, 2011, 01:15:27 PM
Kramer: Yes, KHD is part of the name.
As I suggested, that is the engine type.
U800 I found as a possible type.
KHD F6L912 is probably what you aim at.
Kato, is it a NK type? NK200?
It is the engine type, but does it mean it's not named after the engine? ???
However you found what was required!
It's indeed a KATO of the NK series but not a 200.
@all: a point is still obtainable... (http://www.mysmilie.de/midi-smileys/teufel/1/0013.gif) (http://www.mysmilie.de/)
Kato: NK 250.
Kramer: I believe it was sold by Kramer as a Kramer Allrad Universal. I doubt the engine name, which was after all simply supplied to them, applied to the vehicle. I've done some searching and found it must be a 540:
(http://www.eulan.de/unimog/KTL_190.jpg)
Quote from: DeAutogids on February 02, 2011, 02:39:49 PM
Kato: NK 250.
Kramer: I believe it was sold by Kramer as a Kramer Allrad Universal. I doubt the engine name, which was after all simply supplied to them, applied to the vehicle. I've done some searching and found it must be a 540:
That's interisting! I can't say if it's the same model, but you're probably right, it's most likely not named the way I've saved it.
However, it's still not the right KATO type.
#13: I believe it to be a Bucher TR 1500
Kramer Allrad related: the correct name should be Kramer KA 540
#11: Lindner T 3500
Quote from: DeAutogids on February 02, 2011, 03:21:32 PM
#11: Lindner T 3500
Easy point as you already found the Bucher. :)
Yes and no :).
Do you have any idea how many manufacturers are out there making this?
#15is a prototype of Saurer made in co-operation with Steyr. Saurer 12S5FA
#16: RAF 977
Quote from: DeAutogids on February 02, 2011, 04:21:56 PM
#15is a prototype of Saurer made in co-operation with Steyr. Saurer 12S5FA
A solo for DeAutogids! Right you are! :thumbsup:
Quote from: DeAutogids on February 02, 2011, 04:27:27 PM
#16: RAF 977
Correct, but not enough.
#16: RAF-977 DM Latvija
#3 Berliet T100 (No. 4)
#4 is a Neoplan?
Quote from: Allemano on February 02, 2011, 01:23:06 PM
#08 AEC Reliance with Duple coachwork (woodinsight)
Darn - I had that one queued up for another puzzle! :)
#01 - V-Con diesel-electric dump truck - perhaps model 3006?
#05 - Viberti?
Quote from: woodinsight on February 04, 2011, 01:30:16 AM
#01 - V-Con diesel-electric dump truck - perhaps model 3006?
#05 - Viberti?
Not one of those. On both counts.
Kato NK100?
:shakehead:
Kato NK160?
Correct, except of something that's missing....
Kato NK160B?
Quote from: DeAutogids on February 04, 2011, 08:06:14 AM
Kato NK160B?
No, a more common suffix, albeit for cars...
Is that Ludewig bodywork on #19?
#19 is not a Ludewig coachwork
Quote from: Allemano on February 05, 2011, 04:23:51 AM
#19 is not a Ludewig coachwork
Thought not. The backdrop looks to me like the Pantheon in Rome, so that would make it Italian?
Is it a Fiat?
Quote from: Carnut on February 05, 2011, 07:34:53 PM
Quote from: Allemano on February 05, 2011, 04:23:51 AM
#19 is not a Ludewig coachwork
Thought not. The backdrop looks to me like the Pantheon in Rome, so that would make it Italian?
Is it a Fiat?
you're on the right track.
#6 is the Viberti-bodied Fast AT1007 bus, designed by Ricciotti Tonon, who also designed the classic Turin Double Decker bus.
Still haven't found #19 yet though...
Could it be a Viberti half-deck body on an Alfa-Romeo chassis?
Quote from: Carnut on February 06, 2011, 02:54:29 PM
#6 is the Viberti-bodied Fast AT1007 bus, designed by Ricciotti Tonon, who also designed the classic Turin Double Decker bus.
Wow! That was not easy! :applause:
Quote from: Carnut on February 06, 2011, 02:54:29 PM
Still haven't found #19 yet though...
Could it be a Viberti half-deck body on an Alfa-Romeo chassis?
No, as you rightly said before it is a Fiat.
OK. So is it a Fiat 682 half-deck Touring Bus with Barbi bodywork?
Quote from: Carnut on February 07, 2011, 09:33:02 AM
OK. So is it a Fiat 682 half-deck Touring Bus with Barbi bodywork?
Yes, but it has a certain name.
Note, that I don't lock here? ;)
Ah, I was right with my name for that Fiat.
Quote from: Allemano on February 07, 2011, 09:39:01 AM
Quote from: Carnut on February 07, 2011, 09:33:02 AM
OK. So is it a Fiat 682 half-deck Touring Bus with Barbi bodywork?
Note, that I don't lock here? ;)
Yes, I saw that.
Trouble is I'm extremely busy at work and don't have any time to look for it..
So there's the chance for someone else to profit from my work!
So far only true gentlemen met here...
Quote from: Allemano on February 07, 2011, 12:12:46 PM
So far only true gentlemen met here...
Hope you're right!
But it's your puzzle so it's your rules and I'll live with that!
Fiat 682 Superpanoramico?
I would say it is a Bambi Superpanoramico with a Fiat 682 chassis. Not a Fiat Superpanoramico.
Well I'd already established that the body was by Barbi (not Bambi..) so I didn't bother to include it again.
But it's a Fiat, not a Barbi. Barbi only did the bodywork.
Quote from: Carnut on February 08, 2011, 06:31:43 AM
Well I'd already established that the body was by Barbi (not Bambi..) so I didn't bother to include it again.
But it's a Fiat, not a Barbi. Barbi only did the bodywork.
Barbi, sorry, both girly names :P. The bodywork is called Panoramica.
Quote from: DeAutogids on February 08, 2011, 06:51:35 AM
The bodywork is called Panoramica.
No - the Panoramica was a slightly earlier model without windows in the lower part of the rear.
The puzzle picture is the Superpanoramica!
Quote from: Carnut on February 08, 2011, 07:42:09 AM
Quote from: DeAutogids on February 08, 2011, 06:51:35 AM
The bodywork is called Panoramica.
No - the Panoramica was a slightly earlier model without windows in the lower part of the rear.
The puzzle picture is the Superpanoramica!
Indeed.
But I think we can agree then that the solution should not be:
#19 Carozzeria Barbi Fiat 682 "Super-Panoramico" (Carnut)
but
#19 Carozzeria Barbi "Super-Panoramico" Fiat 682 (Carnut) or Fiat 682 with Carozzeria Barbi "Super-Panoramico" bodywork
Is #4 a Lancia?
Congratulations on your 5000th post Carnut
Quote from: woodinsight on February 11, 2011, 11:31:40 AM
Congratulations on your 5000th post Carnut
Crikey, I never noticed!
Thanks woodinsight.
It worries me when I see the number of days, hours and minutes I've been on the site.
I wonder if that feature can be switched off!
Quote from: Carnut on February 12, 2011, 05:16:21 AM
Quote from: Allemano on February 12, 2011, 05:12:35 AM
Quote from: Carnut on February 11, 2011, 08:50:40 AM
Quote from: Allemano on February 11, 2011, 07:34:28 AM
Quote from: Carnut on February 11, 2011, 05:09:57 AM
Is #4 a Lancia?
No.
How about a Saurer?
Not Lancia!
You already answered that question, but not the latest one!
Sorry, I mixed it up. Not a Saurer!
12. Melrose M880 Pusher 8x8 built by CF&I Engineering from Denver Colorado 1970with a dozer blade
Quote from: Oguerrerob on February 12, 2011, 06:33:04 AM
12. Melrose M880 Pusher 8x8 built by CF&I Engineering from Denver Colorado 1970with a dozer blade
I guess you're right. :)
Will check it at home later!
Quote from: Allemano on February 12, 2011, 06:53:50 AM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on February 12, 2011, 06:33:04 AM
12. Melrose M880 Pusher 8x8 built by CF&I Engineering from Denver Colorado 1970with a dozer blade
I guess you're right. :)
Will check it at home later!
How did it check out?
Quote from: Carnut on February 06, 2011, 02:54:29 PM
#6 is the Viberti-bodied Fast AT1007 bus, designed by Ricciotti Tonon, who also designed the classic Turin Double Decker bus.
Still haven't found #19 yet though...
Could it be a Viberti half-deck body on an Alfa-Romeo chassis?
Interestingly, my source tells this bus had a GM motor and was supposedly sold in Canada?
Hello Pros,
may I join in?
#1: Kress CH-300 Bottom Dump Coal Hauler
#4: Orion WH 159 from 1955, Germany
#17: Kato NK-160X1 ?
Quote from: DeAutogids on February 24, 2011, 11:14:31 AM
Quote from: Allemano on February 12, 2011, 06:53:50 AM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on February 12, 2011, 06:33:04 AM
12. Melrose M880 Pusher 8x8 built by CF&I Engineering from Denver Colorado 1970with a dozer blade
I guess you're right. :)
Will check it at home later!
How did it check out?
Allemano seems to have forgotten about this puzzle...!
I'm sorry, I forgot about this one.
Hope I'll get it done later in the evening...
Quote from: Oguerrerob on February 12, 2011, 06:33:04 AM
12. Melrose M880 Pusher 8x8 built by CF&I Engineering from Denver Colorado 1970with a dozer blade
:thumbsup: and sorry again, for the delay.
Quote from: Wendax on March 05, 2011, 04:12:30 PM
Hello Pros,
may I join in?
#1: Kress CH-300 Bottom Dump Coal Hauler
#4: Orion WH 159 from 1955, Germany
#17: Kato NK-160X1 ?
#1: Kress CH-300 Bottom Dump Coal Hauler -
right make, wrong model#4: Orion WH 159 from 1955, Germany -
correct!#17: Kato NK-160X1 ? -
No
Quote from: Allemano on March 06, 2011, 10:44:48 AM
#1: Kress CH-300 Bottom Dump Coal Hauler - right make, wrong model
Kress 200C II Coal Hauler
Quote from: Wendax on March 06, 2011, 10:56:40 AM
Quote from: Allemano on March 06, 2011, 10:44:48 AM
#1: Kress CH-300 Bottom Dump Coal Hauler - right make, wrong model
Kress 200C II Coal Hauler
:shakehead:
Kress CH-240 C
#17: Kato NK-160 E-V ?
#17: Kato NK-160E
Is #5 from Portugal?
Neither
:shakehead:
Far from Jonckheere I'm afraid.
Quote from: Allemano on March 10, 2011, 04:36:19 AM
Far from Jonckheere I'm afraid.
Is it even European then?
Eastern Europe?
:nod:
Autosan?
Ikarus?
Can't get hold on my books before tomorrow. So another wild guess: Jelcz?
Neither Ikarus nor Jelcz
Karosa?
:shakehead:
#5 from Russia?
Not from Russia.
Yugoslavia?
Not from Yugoslavia either!
Poland?
:shakehead:
Czechoslovakia?
no.
Romania?
no.
Not much left. Is it a Cavdar from Bulgaria?
No.
Althogh Ikarus has been ruled out before, could it be from Hungary?
Sorry, but it's not from Hungary either.
As the bus seems to be built before the end of the Soviet empire, I interpreted your no to Russia as a no to the Soviet Union. But I better ask precisely: from a country formerly belonging to the Soviet Union?
Yes.
It is the Ukraina-67 prototype from 1967 with a ZIL 375 engine.
That's right, but not enough..
Quote from: Allemano on March 13, 2011, 05:12:53 AM
That's right, but not enough..
You want to hear that it was built by LAZ in Lvov?
Of course! :D
That's worth a front pic
Let's tackle the last completely unknown: #9. Is it from Australia?
Quote from: Wendax on March 13, 2011, 05:25:21 AM
Let's tackle the last completely unknown: #9. Is it from Australia?
No it's not.
United Kingdom?
Yes.
#9 is the ERF 6x66 Cu. Oilfield Tractor, built for export only.
Well done. :applause:
Will tally points later!
Kato NK-160 GT ?
oops missed that..
Not GT. Not 2 characters.
Kato NK-160I?
No.
Who's first?
How many letters did we already do?
Kato NK-160T
Not 'T'..
Kato NK 160 K?
Not 'K'
Kato NK-160 F
Not 'F'
.... ...
.... ...
.... ...
Kato NK-160 V
Not 'V'
Kato NK-160 C
Not 'C'
Is it a letter suffix at all?
Otherwise I would go for Kato NK160-2.
NK-160 X
Kato Nk-160 S?
Quote from: Wendax on March 14, 2011, 08:03:38 AM
Kato Nk-160 S?
(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/Gifs/party2.gif)(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/Gifs/party2.gif)(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/Gifs/party2.gif)
We have a winner!
I'll post the piece of evidence later when I'm home!
Here it is:
The score:
DeAutogids 11 pts :thumbsup:
Wendax 5 pts
Carnut 2 pts
woodinsight 1 pt
Oguerrerob 1 pt
Well done gentlemen!
Darn, I missed this one ! :taz: