Here you are 11 'faceless' vehicles staring like ghosts.
As usual one point for each right guess. Points will be awarded not until the last one is solved.
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Results:
#1: 1957 Mowag - pguillem
#2: AWS Elsbett (Autowerke Salzgitter) Lorry - Siata1
#3: 1943 Autelec - SACO
#4: Gryff Transporter - Siata1
#5: 1962 Mocar - Oguerrerob
#6: ÖAF based Electric parcel car by "Elektrofahrzeugbau Joh. Knittl" from 1950 - pguillem (Wendax: point already added)
#7: 1948 Hansa-Lloyd Elektrolastwagen EL 3000 (BEE 3000) - pguillem
#8: Maschinenfabrik Esslingen Akkuschlepper - Oguerrerob
#9: Still 1,5to Electric Truck - pguillem
#10: Gaubschat EL 1000 Paketwagen (1-Tonner) - pguillem
#11: 1941 SIG (EL 4000?) 4,0 ton Electric Truck - pguillem
Faceless went to experts.
Shameful - a puzzle this good shouldn't be ignored!
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on September 20, 2011, 04:08:40 AM
Shameful - a puzzle this good shouldn't be ignored!
Thank you!
You should rejoice, the more is left for you. ;)
Grrr... I have to leave for a few hours...
#1 Mowag from 1957
#7 Hansa-Lloyd Elektrolastwagen EL 3000 (BEE 3000) from 1948-50
#9 Bergmann ?
#10 Gaubschat EL 1000 from 1955
#11 Autarquia ?
#1 Mowag from 1957 :nod:
#7 Hansa-Lloyd Elektrolastwagen EL 3000 (BEE 3000) from 1948-50 :nod:
#9 Bergmann ? :shakehead:
#10 Gaubschat EL 1000 from 1955 :nod:
#11 Autarquia ? :shakehead:
#2 british ?
#6 Krauss-Maffei ?
#9 german ?
#11 swiss ?
#2 british ? :shakehead:
#6 Krauss-Maffei ? :shakehead:
#9 german ? :nod:
#11 swiss ? :nod:
Quote from: Allemano on September 21, 2011, 04:17:36 PM
#2 british ? :shakehead:
#6 Krauss-Maffei ? :shakehead:
#9 german ? :nod:
#11 swiss ? :nod:
2# german ?
#9 electric ?
#11 Mowag from 1955 ?
2# german ? :nod:
#9 electric ? :nod:
#11 Mowag from 1955 ? :shakehead:
#11 : FBW ?
Gryff Transporter, built by Läubin, Gryff-Motors, Allschwil BL (CH), 1982.
Engine VW-Beetle.
I forgot the number: # 4
Quote from: Siata1 on September 23, 2011, 04:18:12 PM
Gryff Transporter, built by Läubin, Gryff-Motors, Allschwil BL (CH), 1982.
Engine VW-Beetle.
Quote from: Siata1 on September 23, 2011, 04:19:17 PM
I forgot the number: # 4
Amazing! I belived this would last a LOT longer!!
#11 Not Berna I presume ?
#3 : Autelec 1943 ?
# 2: AWS (Autowerke Salzgitter) 1949/50 with radial engine by Ludwig Elsbett
Quote from: Siata1 on September 26, 2011, 12:06:39 PM
# 2: AWS (Autowerke Salzgitter) 1949/50 with radial engine by Ludwig Elsbett
Well done! :applause:
My source reports that this lorry is actually built on the
same chassis as the Elsbett car. Apparently they took off the prototype's van body and used it as a lorry afterwards. A shame in my opinion.
Faceless went to Professionals.
5 - Mocar 1965 Gurgel Veiculo Utilitario Brazil
Right! :)
and the unveiled Gryff and Gaubschat:
8 - For maneuvering on the depot site at road Gröpelinger army supplied the Maschinenfabrik Esslingen a battery on the tractor
Oguerrerob: PM sent.
Just joined in after a long day on French countryside roads. I waited for this one to reach the pros:
#8: Maschinenfabrik Esslingen Akkuschlepper, built for Bremer Straßenbahn AG, 1949
I guess, #6 is German?
Quote from: Allemano on September 28, 2011, 03:40:22 PM
Quote from: Wendax on September 28, 2011, 03:21:51 PM
I guess, #6 is German?
Not German..
Then it must be Swiss. They liked the wiper axis going through the glass of the windshield.
Not Swiss according to my own research...
Wendax: PM sent.
May #11 be a swiss Tribelhorn?
#11 Arbenz-Oetiker ?
No.
#9 - Bleichert?
#11 - E.F.A.G./N.E.F.A.G.?
No11: is it from Belgium?
Quote from: Allemano on September 21, 2011, 04:17:36 PM
#2 british ? :shakehead:
#6 Krauss-Maffei ? :shakehead:
#9 german ? :nod:
#11 swiss ? :nod:
;)
No11: MOWAG?
It's only one Mowag in this puzzle.
No11: Oehler?
#11 : SIG ?
PM received and answered
Quote from: pguillem on September 29, 2011, 11:41:27 AM
Is it the EL 4000 ?
I think that's close enough. My source reports that it's a SIG 4,0 ton electric truck from 1941.
here's the unaltered picture:
Quote from: Allemano on September 29, 2011, 11:48:51 AM
Quote from: pguillem on September 29, 2011, 11:41:27 AM
Is it the EL 4000 ?
I think that's close enough. My source reports that it's a SIG 4,0 ton electric truck from 1941.
From GTÜ Oldtimer Service
Titel: SIG Elektro-Liefer- und Plattformwagen (1933-1980)
Artikel-No: P026442
Ausgabe: LUK-2010-06-S70-6
Publikation: Last & Kraft
Kurzextrakt: Historie der Schweizer Industrie-Gesellschaft und deren Produktion von Elektrolastern, Plattformwagen und Staplern. Zahlreiche Fahrzeugabbildungen der Elektro-Lieferwagen EL 1000, EL 1500 und EL 4000. Historisches Bildmaterial der Typen und Modelle
Ah thanks!
#9 : Still EWL 1502 ?
6 - Elektro-Auto Österreichische Post-u Tel - Verwaltung (Austria) (Post-electric car from 1950's) at Museum of Technology Ferlach Historama
Quote from: Oguerrerob on September 30, 2011, 11:15:09 PM
6 - Elektro-Auto Österreichische Post-u Tel - Verwaltung (Austria) (Post-electric car from 1950's) at Museum of Technology Ferlach Historama
I know the make of this truck.
Quote from: Oguerrerob on September 30, 2011, 11:15:09 PM
6 - Elektro-Auto Österreichische Post-u Tel - Verwaltung (Austria) (Post-electric car from 1950's) at Museum of Technology Ferlach Historama
Oguerrerob: you need a little more 'research' than that...
Locked for you...and I'm really looking forward to your reply in the next 24 h.. :)
After that pguillem gets his chance.
Quote from: Allemano on October 01, 2011, 09:15:26 AM
After that pguillem gets his chance.
With the unretouched picture it's not really that hard. :D
Quote from: Wendax on October 01, 2011, 09:29:57 AM
With the unretouched picture it's not really that hard. :D
Of course I meant not only pguillem is allowed to answer after 24h.
Quote from: Allemano on October 01, 2011, 09:15:26 AM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on September 30, 2011, 11:15:09 PM
6 - Elektro-Auto Österreichische Post-u Tel - Verwaltung (Austria) (Post-electric car from 1950's) at Museum of Technology Ferlach Historama
Oguerrerob: you need a little more 'research' than that...
Locked for you...and I'm really looking forward to your reply in the next 24 h.. :)
After that pguillem gets his chance.
That's what I've found in my "research": Elektro-Auto Post-LKW Ein Original-Postpaketwagen E5 aus dem Jahr 1950 mit 10 t Gesamtgewicht - davon der Batteriekasten 2,2 t (An original postal package cars E5 from the year 1950 with 10 tons - of which the battery box 2.2 t).
If it's not enough please let the others do!
Quote from: Oguerrerob on October 01, 2011, 01:17:57 PM
Quote from: Allemano on October 01, 2011, 09:15:26 AM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on September 30, 2011, 11:15:09 PM
6 - Elektro-Auto Österreichische Post-u Tel - Verwaltung (Austria) (Post-electric car from 1950's) at Museum of Technology Ferlach Historama
Oguerrerob: you need a little more 'research' than that...
Locked for you...and I'm really looking forward to your reply in the next 24 h.. :)
After that pguillem gets his chance.
That's what I've found in my "research": Elektro-Auto Post-LKW Ein Original-Postpaketwagen E5 aus dem Jahr 1950 mit 10 t Gesamtgewicht - davon der Batteriekasten 2,2 t (An original postal package cars E5 from the year 1950 with 10 tons - of which the battery box 2.2 t).
If it's not enough please let the others do!
Unlocked. The company's name is missing.
The logo is the one of Österreichische Automobil Fabrik. But there is smething strange : I didn't find anay reference to an ÖAF Elektro model on the web, nor to an E5 model, even when searching for Österreichische Automobil Fabrik instead of ÖAF. More strangely, I can't understand why the people at Ferlach didn't describe the truck as an ÖAF, as ÖAF is well-known in Austria, where many models can be seen
Quote from: pguillem on October 02, 2011, 11:18:19 AM
The logo is the one of Österreichische Automobil Fabrik. But there is smething strange : I didn't find anay reference to an ÖAF Elektro model on the web, nor to an E5 model, even when searching for Österreichische Automobil Fabrik instead of ÖAF. More strangely, I can't understand why the people at Ferlach didn't describe the truck as an ÖAF, as ÖAF is well-known in Austria, where many models can be seen
So do I! ???
Anyway, the logo seems to be definetly ÖAF, so, point for pguillem. I don't know if 'E5' is the right designation at all.
I've come across some more information about this postal van. It was built in 1950/51 by the company "Elektrofahrzeugbau Joh. Knittl" from Vienna, based on an ÖAF chassis. The electric engine was from Brown Boveri. A special development was the "Walzenfahrschalter" (roller drive switch?), a device to regulate the electric engine in times when the semiconductor technology wasn't invented. The official designation was ÖAF Typ 2 ENO. 160 trucks were built. The pictured car was in use until 1982.
Thank you! I think this is worth an extra point as it is far more than all of my sources reveal.
Quote from: Allemano on October 04, 2011, 01:24:28 PM
Thanks you! I thinks this is worth an extra point as it is far more than all of my sources reveal.
Thank you.
In fact, I was looking for some clues for #9. Is it by a well-known German electric truck maker of the 1950's or rather obscure?
Not obscure at all. (for attentive autopuzzlers!)
Lloyd?
No
Is it East German?
No.
Let's sum up: #9 is a West German electric truck by a well-known manufacturer. It is not Bleichert and not Bergmann. You didn't answer pguillem's question whether it is a Still. I assume it is not by a manufacturer already featured in this puzzle. Am I right?
Quote from: pguillem on September 30, 2011, 07:11:52 PM
#9 : Still EWL 1502 ?
I'm so sorry Wendax, but indeed, I did not realize pguillem's reply. :-\
I have it a Still 1,5 to electric truck , but think that pguillem is close enough to earn that final point!
Well done gentlemen! It was a pleasure for me! :)
Total:
pguillem: 6 points. :applause:
Siata1: 2 points
Oguerrerob: 2 points
SACO: 1 point
Thanks a lot. It was a pleasure. :bow:
More Info about Gryff.
The full name of #8 is Maschinenfabrik Esslingen S 202 f.