Solved by pguillem and Co.: Faceless

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Allemano

Quote from: pguillem on September 29, 2011, 11:41:27 AM
Is it the EL 4000 ?
I think that's close enough. My source reports that it's a SIG 4,0 ton electric truck from 1941.

here's the unaltered picture:

pguillem

Quote from: Allemano on September 29, 2011, 11:48:51 AM
Quote from: pguillem on September 29, 2011, 11:41:27 AM
Is it the EL 4000 ?
I think that's close enough. My source reports that it's a SIG 4,0 ton electric truck from 1941.


From GTÜ Oldtimer Service

Titel: SIG Elektro-Liefer- und Plattformwagen (1933-1980)
Artikel-No: P026442
Ausgabe: LUK-2010-06-S70-6
Publikation: Last & Kraft
Kurzextrakt: Historie der Schweizer Industrie-Gesellschaft und deren Produktion von Elektrolastern, Plattformwagen und Staplern. Zahlreiche Fahrzeugabbildungen der Elektro-Lieferwagen EL 1000, EL 1500 und EL 4000. Historisches Bildmaterial der Typen und Modelle

Allemano


pguillem

#9 : Still EWL 1502 ?

Oguerrerob

#55
6 - Elektro-Auto Österreichische Post-u Tel - Verwaltung (Austria) (Post-electric car from 1950's) at Museum of Technology Ferlach Historama

pguillem

Quote from: Oguerrerob on September 30, 2011, 11:15:09 PM
6 - Elektro-Auto Österreichische Post-u Tel - Verwaltung (Austria) (Post-electric car from 1950's) at Museum of Technology Ferlach Historama

I know the make of this truck.

Allemano

Quote from: Oguerrerob on September 30, 2011, 11:15:09 PM
6 - Elektro-Auto Österreichische Post-u Tel - Verwaltung (Austria) (Post-electric car from 1950's) at Museum of Technology Ferlach Historama
Oguerrerob: you need a little more 'research' than that...
Locked for you...and I'm really looking forward to your reply in the next 24 h.. :)

After that pguillem gets his chance.

Wendax

Quote from: Allemano on October 01, 2011, 09:15:26 AM
After that pguillem gets his chance.
With the unretouched picture it's not really that hard.  :D

Allemano

#59
Quote from: Wendax on October 01, 2011, 09:29:57 AM
With the unretouched picture it's not really that hard.  :D
Of course I meant not only pguillem is allowed to answer after 24h.

Oguerrerob

Quote from: Allemano on October 01, 2011, 09:15:26 AM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on September 30, 2011, 11:15:09 PM
6 - Elektro-Auto Österreichische Post-u Tel - Verwaltung (Austria) (Post-electric car from 1950's) at Museum of Technology Ferlach Historama
Oguerrerob: you need a little more 'research' than that...
Locked for you...and I'm really looking forward to your reply in the next 24 h.. :)

After that pguillem gets his chance.
That's what I've found in my "research": Elektro-Auto Post-LKW Ein Original-Postpaketwagen E5 aus dem Jahr 1950 mit 10 t Gesamtgewicht - davon der Batteriekasten 2,2 t (An original postal package cars E5 from the year 1950 with 10 tons - of which the battery box 2.2 t).

If it's not enough please let the others do!

Allemano

Quote from: Oguerrerob on October 01, 2011, 01:17:57 PM
Quote from: Allemano on October 01, 2011, 09:15:26 AM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on September 30, 2011, 11:15:09 PM
6 - Elektro-Auto Österreichische Post-u Tel - Verwaltung (Austria) (Post-electric car from 1950's) at Museum of Technology Ferlach Historama
Oguerrerob: you need a little more 'research' than that...
Locked for you...and I'm really looking forward to your reply in the next 24 h.. :)

After that pguillem gets his chance.
That's what I've found in my "research": Elektro-Auto Post-LKW Ein Original-Postpaketwagen E5 aus dem Jahr 1950 mit 10 t Gesamtgewicht - davon der Batteriekasten 2,2 t (An original postal package cars E5 from the year 1950 with 10 tons - of which the battery box 2.2 t).

If it's not enough please let the others do!
Unlocked. The company's name is missing.

pguillem

The logo is the one of Österreichische Automobil Fabrik.  But  there is smething strange : I didn't find anay reference to an ÖAF Elektro model on the web, nor to an E5 model, even when searching for Österreichische Automobil Fabrik instead of ÖAF. More strangely, I can't understand why the people at Ferlach didn't describe the truck as an ÖAF, as ÖAF is well-known in Austria, where many models can be seen

Allemano

#63
Quote from: pguillem on October 02, 2011, 11:18:19 AM
The logo is the one of Österreichische Automobil Fabrik.  But  there is smething strange : I didn't find anay reference to an ÖAF Elektro model on the web, nor to an E5 model, even when searching for Österreichische Automobil Fabrik instead of ÖAF. More strangely, I can't understand why the people at Ferlach didn't describe the truck as an ÖAF, as ÖAF is well-known in Austria, where many models can be seen
So do I!  ???

Anyway, the logo seems to be definetly ÖAF, so, point for pguillem. I don't know if 'E5' is the right designation at all.

Wendax

#64
I've come across some more information about this postal van. It was built in 1950/51 by the company "Elektrofahrzeugbau Joh. Knittl" from Vienna, based on an ÖAF chassis. The electric engine was from Brown Boveri. A special development was the "Walzenfahrschalter" (roller drive switch?), a device to regulate the electric engine in times when the semiconductor technology wasn't invented. The official designation was ÖAF Typ 2 ENO. 160 trucks were built. The pictured car was in use until 1982.

Allemano

#65
Thank you! I think this is worth an extra point as it is far more than all of my sources reveal.

Wendax

Quote from: Allemano on October 04, 2011, 01:24:28 PM
Thanks you! I thinks this is worth an extra point as it is far more than all of my sources reveal.
Thank you.

In fact, I was looking for some clues for #9. Is it by a well-known German electric truck maker of the 1950's or rather obscure?

Allemano

Not obscure at all. (for attentive autopuzzlers!)


Wendax


Allemano


Wendax


Allemano


Wendax

Let's sum up: #9 is a West German electric truck by a well-known manufacturer. It is not Bleichert and not Bergmann. You didn't answer pguillem's question whether it is a Still. I assume it is not by a manufacturer already featured in this puzzle. Am I right?

Allemano

Quote from: pguillem on September 30, 2011, 07:11:52 PM
#9 : Still EWL 1502 ?
I'm so sorry Wendax, but indeed, I did not realize pguillem's reply.  :-\

I have it a Still 1,5 to electric truck , but think that pguillem is close enough to earn that final point!


Well done gentlemen! It was a pleasure for me!  :)

Allemano

Total:

pguillem: 6 points. :applause:

Siata1: 2 points

Oguerrerob: 2 points

SACO: 1 point