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Puzzles, Games and Name That Car => Solved AutoPuzzles => 2011 => Topic started by: Djetset on March 22, 2011, 07:14:48 PM

Title: SOLVED: Djetset #504 - 1952 Balsa F2 (Peugeot 203 base)
Post by: Djetset on March 22, 2011, 07:14:48 PM
What is this called for a point?
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Post by: Djetset on March 30, 2011, 05:37:41 PM
On the move.
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Post by: D-type on March 31, 2011, 04:45:24 PM
Tornado?

But why the huge picture?
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Post by: Carnut on April 01, 2011, 04:22:42 AM
How about this for size?!:

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Post by: Tackitt on April 01, 2011, 01:03:22 PM
formula 2?
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Post by: Djetset on April 04, 2011, 05:24:17 PM
Not a Tornado, and not certain if it's an F2 car as my source doesn't confirm this, although I suspect it is.  Thanks for the re-sized image. 
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Post by: Tackitt on April 07, 2011, 10:15:59 PM
Is it a Maserati A6GCM with the grill remounted sideways?
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Post by: Djetset on April 08, 2011, 04:58:19 AM
It's the wrong colo(u)r for a Maserati, so it's not one of those!  :D
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Post by: D-type on April 08, 2011, 11:24:04 AM
BMW powered?
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Post by: Djetset on April 08, 2011, 11:45:29 AM
Not 100% sure as I don't yet know what engine it used, but 99% likely not to be BMW powered.
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Post by: Tackitt on April 08, 2011, 01:27:54 PM
Okay. Its a Gordini T-16 with the grill on sideways!   :doh:
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Post by: D-type on April 10, 2011, 05:59:34 PM
Is it European?
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Post by: Djetset on April 14, 2011, 12:04:29 PM
It is European, but not a Gordini.
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Post by: D-type on May 13, 2011, 04:02:26 PM
A long shot - is it an OSCA?
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Post by: Tackitt on May 13, 2011, 05:06:08 PM
As far as paint color goes, stranger things have happened.  ::)

How about a Simca 8 Speciale voiturette Formula Two?
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Post by: Djetset on May 13, 2011, 06:02:10 PM
Not an OSCA and not a Simca.
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Post by: D-type on May 14, 2011, 02:32:15 PM
Some sort of BMW "Eigenbau"
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Post by: Djetset on May 16, 2011, 04:14:01 PM
Some sort of BMW "Eigenbau?

No!
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Post by: Tackitt on May 16, 2011, 07:55:50 PM
1948 Escribe Specale?
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Post by: Djetset on May 17, 2011, 04:26:10 AM
Not that one I'm afraid.
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Post by: D-type on May 17, 2011, 03:48:58 PM
Quote from: Djetset on May 16, 2011, 04:14:01 PM
Some sort of BMW "Eigenbau?

No!
Whoops!  Sorry, I'd already asked that hadn't I  :doh:
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Post by: Tackitt on May 17, 2011, 08:31:22 PM
I can't find a picture but is it the 1948 Martin Speciale - Fraser Nash (BMW 328)?
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Post by: Djetset on May 18, 2011, 05:53:13 PM
Not the Martin Speciale.

Let's see if the Pros can help crack this one...
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Post by: woodinsight on May 19, 2011, 05:15:27 AM
Salmson? (possibly the Serge Pozzoli car c.1945/46)?
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Post by: Djetset on May 19, 2011, 05:18:30 AM
Not a Salmson.
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Post by: Allan L on May 19, 2011, 09:31:42 AM
Quote from: woodinsight on May 19, 2011, 05:15:27 AM
Salmson? (possibly the Serge Pozzoli car c.1945/46)?
Did you mean this one?
(http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=14492.0;attach=21610;image)
as seen in this thread
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=14492.msg130253#top (http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=14492.msg130253#top)
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Post by: faksta on May 19, 2011, 12:43:19 PM
Is it really French?

(Could it be a Bianchi-Bugatti? ^-^)
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Post by: woodinsight on May 19, 2011, 12:58:38 PM
Quote from: Allan L on May 19, 2011, 09:31:42 AM
Quote from: woodinsight on May 19, 2011, 05:15:27 AM
Salmson? (possibly the Serge Pozzoli car c.1945/46)?
Did you mean this one?
(http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=14492.0;attach=21610;image)
as seen in this thread
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=14492.msg130253#top (http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=14492.msg130253#top)
Yes, that was the one I was referring to.
Title: Re: Djetset #504
Post by: Tackitt on May 20, 2011, 02:31:07 PM
Guerin - de Coucy ?
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Post by: Djetset on May 23, 2011, 04:49:23 PM
Oui, this car is French, but none of the above.  Desole!
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Post by: woodinsight on May 24, 2011, 04:50:26 AM
Monnier Speciale?
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Post by: Djetset on May 24, 2011, 11:02:58 AM
So Monnier, yet to far!  ;D  Sorry, but no.
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Post by: woodinsight on May 24, 2011, 11:35:15 AM
RM Speciale?
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Post by: Djetset on May 24, 2011, 11:51:11 AM
I'm not sure I know the RM Speciale, but it's not that.
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Post by: faksta on May 24, 2011, 12:05:11 PM
Andre Guillaumet's Peugeot Speciale?
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Post by: woodinsight on May 24, 2011, 01:45:00 PM
Jihel-Citroen?
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Post by: Djetset on May 24, 2011, 01:53:15 PM
Sorry, but no and no.
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Post by: faksta on May 24, 2011, 02:01:59 PM
Gerbout Speciale (= RG Speciale)?
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Post by: Djetset on May 24, 2011, 02:03:13 PM
Not that one either (but I am learning more about French specials that I didn't really know of beforehand, so thank you).
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Post by: faksta on May 24, 2011, 02:07:33 PM
Fiat engined maybe?
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Post by: Djetset on May 24, 2011, 02:08:35 PM
To be honest I am not 100% certain what engine this car used, although I suspect it was French.
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Post by: woodinsight on May 24, 2011, 02:10:09 PM
Martin?
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Post by: Djetset on May 24, 2011, 02:12:41 PM
Not Martin
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Post by: faksta on May 24, 2011, 02:13:17 PM
Galy Speciale (should be BMW engine in this case)?
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Post by: woodinsight on May 24, 2011, 02:19:33 PM
Meteore-BMW?
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Post by: Tackitt on May 24, 2011, 02:25:26 PM
Violet-Bernadet 500cc supercharged?
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Post by: Djetset on May 24, 2011, 06:18:47 PM
This one is certainly generating a lot of interest, but so far none of the answers are correct.
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Post by: faksta on May 24, 2011, 11:43:40 PM
An RPS?
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Post by: woodinsight on May 24, 2011, 11:47:59 PM
JR Speciale?
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Post by: Djetset on May 25, 2011, 04:58:10 AM
Not an RPS or JR.
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Post by: woodinsight on May 25, 2011, 10:36:05 AM
D.B.-Citroen?
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Post by: Djetset on May 25, 2011, 01:51:11 PM
Not a DB.
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Post by: faksta on May 25, 2011, 02:09:15 PM
Cabrit Speciale?
(I'm nearly running out of French specials of this kind  :D )
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Post by: woodinsight on May 25, 2011, 02:18:00 PM
Quote from: faksta on May 25, 2011, 02:09:15 PM
Cabrit Speciale?
(I'm nearly running out of French specials of this kind  :D )
I already have!  :D
Let me ask a question - did the car compete in France in the immediate postwar period or are we looking at the early 1950s?
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Post by: Tackitt on May 25, 2011, 02:22:52 PM
I was about to ask a similar question. I keep looking in the year, 1948.
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Post by: Djetset on May 25, 2011, 04:14:38 PM
Not a Cabrit, but yes,the car did compete in France in the 1950s.
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Post by: faksta on May 25, 2011, 04:30:37 PM
FA (I think this is how it was called) of Jean Juden?
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Post by: Djetset on May 25, 2011, 04:34:52 PM
Wow, yet another French special, but sadly not the right one!
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Post by: faksta on May 25, 2011, 04:39:59 PM
We haven't tried Duval Speciale yet, I believe...  :idea:
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Post by: faksta on May 25, 2011, 04:41:34 PM
And Thiel Speciale, known also as SEMA...
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Post by: Djetset on May 25, 2011, 05:15:17 PM
Sorry, but none of the above.
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Post by: woodinsight on May 27, 2011, 02:55:50 AM
Serval-HRD?
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Post by: Djetset on May 27, 2011, 04:36:28 AM
Not a Serval-HRD.
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Post by: woodinsight on May 27, 2011, 09:45:32 AM
Carlus?
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Post by: Djetset on May 27, 2011, 09:57:08 AM
and still they keep on coming!  Wow, but sorry: no  :-\
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Post by: woodinsight on May 27, 2011, 10:00:23 AM
My last try for the moment would be Jicey
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Post by: faksta on May 27, 2011, 11:00:22 AM
What about BS by some monsieur Sevin, whose name I don't know?
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Post by: Djetset on May 27, 2011, 01:57:29 PM
Sorry, but neither of the above.
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Post by: faksta on May 27, 2011, 02:04:43 PM
Serge Nersessian's BMW Speciale?  :lurk:
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Post by: faksta on May 27, 2011, 02:06:36 PM
Or simply Deho?
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Post by: woodinsight on May 28, 2011, 01:35:51 AM
Dorgi?
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Post by: Djetset on May 30, 2011, 09:59:16 AM
No, no and no to the last three replies.
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Post by: woodinsight on May 30, 2011, 10:05:33 AM
Surva?
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Post by: Djetset on May 30, 2011, 10:13:54 AM
Isn't that something to do with IT and computers?! ;D

Sorry no, not a Surva.
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Post by: HiRich on June 18, 2011, 08:35:29 AM
It looks a lot like the Marrie Speciale of Roger Marrie, a French racer 500 of the early 1950s.
Body shape, proportions and nose are very similar, but the image I have has much deeper cutout of the cockpit sides. Perhaps it was rebodied in restoration, or converted for Formula II use?
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Post by: Djetset on June 20, 2011, 07:23:56 AM
Welcome to AutoPuzzles HiRich.  I can see the similarities with the Marrie Special, but sadly this car is not that one.
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Post by: Djetset on September 29, 2011, 10:49:00 AM
Just 24 hours away from the Black Hole!
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Post by: Djetset on September 30, 2011, 12:05:38 PM
Into the Black Hole it goes.
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Post by: woodinsight on October 22, 2011, 05:07:37 PM
I think this is the Balsa F2 built by Marcel Balsa in 1952 that was fitted with a Peugeot 203 engine.
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Post by: Allemano on October 23, 2011, 01:47:38 PM
Wow! Apparently woodinsight finally found it! :applause:
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Post by: Djetset on October 24, 2011, 12:48:18 PM
Phew, at last!  Very well done Woodinsight, as this is the Balsa F2.  Nice to see the back of this one after so long.
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Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 10, 2013, 03:20:50 AM
Quote from: woodinsight on October 22, 2011, 05:07:37 PM
I think this is the Balsa F2 built by Marcel Balsa in 1952 that was fitted with a Peugeot 203 engine.

QuoteThroughout Balsa's racing career he would take part in mostly junior races, as well as, Formula 2 events. Then, in 1952, the World Championship came calling to him. The fifty-one year old driver would have the opportunity to take part in the World Championship.

The opportunity to take part in the World Championship presented itself when Alfa Romeo left Formula One at the end of the 1951 season. There was really no competitor to square-off against Scuderia Ferrari, who had truly become the team to beat, even during the later part of 1951. Costs were also spiraling out of control. This was not a good formula for continued existence, let alone success. In the search for time, in order to come up with new Formula One regulations, the race organizers and the governing-body decided the 1952 and 1953 World Championship seasons would be run according to Formula 2 regulations. This opened the door for Balsa and his BMW Special.

During the 1952 season, Balsa would take part in some smaller formula races and other special races. He would also take part in a couple of Formula 2 non-championship races as well. The first of just a few national Formula 2 events in which Balsa would take part would be the 1st Grand Prix de Caen on the 27th of July.

:scratch:

I think the puzzle car is from 1950; in 1952 Balsa competed in a BMW-powered special


Title: Re: SOLVED: Djetset #504 - 1952 Balsa F2 (Peugeot 203 base)
Post by: el_monty on November 21, 2017, 04:09:32 PM
Original puzzle picture not visible.
Title: Re: SOLVED: Djetset #504 - 1952 Balsa F2 (Peugeot 203 base)
Post by: el_monty on November 21, 2017, 04:12:01 PM
Well, now I see that Carnut posted a resized version of the puzzle pic  in the first page.  :bonk:
But anyway, this is a nice pic so why take it down?
Title: Re: SOLVED: Djetset #504 - 1952 Balsa F2 (Peugeot 203 base)
Post by: pnegyesi on November 22, 2017, 06:39:04 AM
Don't worry. As I said in another post, puzzle pix in many cases can be restored. So when you said "no visible puzzle pic" Wendax sprung into action :)! But your new pic also looks fine and it can remain here.
Title: Re: SOLVED: Djetset #504 - 1952 Balsa F2 (Peugeot 203 base)
Post by: Wendax on March 30, 2018, 11:14:27 AM
Two more pics:
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