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Title: Solved - MJW #179 - Lotus 51R (or 22?) "Flower Power" 1968
Post by: woodinsight on December 29, 2010, 03:55:21 PM
and the last one for the moment.......

What is this?
Marque, model and what is the story behind this?
One point puzzle
Title: Re: MJW #179
Post by: barrett on December 29, 2010, 05:14:55 PM
Hmmm....  :-\
Title: Re: MJW #179
Post by: woodinsight on January 04, 2011, 07:22:59 AM
Moving up a level
Title: Re: MJW #179
Post by: Allemano on January 04, 2011, 07:55:26 AM
:popcorn:
Title: Re: MJW #179
Post by: pieter on January 04, 2011, 08:53:32 AM
Read somewhere that Nick Brittain built a road legal FF Lotus 51 in 1967. Would this be it?
Title: Re: MJW #179
Post by: woodinsight on January 04, 2011, 10:28:08 AM
You're on the right track there pieter, but it wasn't a Type 51 and the year is wrong.
The car was built up by Lotus for Nick Brittain but for what purpose?

I'll lock it for you until your next reply in order for you to come up with the details.
Title: Re: MJW #179
Post by: pieter on January 05, 2011, 01:38:36 AM
A Google search for Nick Brittan Formula Ford Lotus kicked up several sites claiming it to be a type 51R. The year is 1968. They wanted to show it at the London Motor show at Earls Court, but it was refused, so it was displayed at the 1968 BRSCC London Racing Car Show.

I quote from <<< link removed >>>: 'The current theory is that Graham Arnold may have used a spare Elan chassis number for convenience to register the car. You couldn't get away with that now, as the current system of Single Vehicle Approval involves a rigorous inspection, and it would fail on a lack of speedometer, though you don't need one to get an MoT.' and: 'There's no chassis number visible on the Lotus 51R though, and it's usually in the cockpit. The V5C registration document declares it as a Lotus 51R single-seater roadster, along with that six-digit chassis number and the registration NVF 1F the "Flower Power" car wore in 1968.'

also: 'Then I tell 'em how Arnold gets it registered as an invalid carriage on account of it's easier and cheaper. Like it's only got one seat. And how with that big 12 volt battery jolting around under your fly buttons you may not be an invalid when you get in it it but there's a fair chance of being that way when you get out'.
Title: Re: MJW #179
Post by: Otto Puzzell on January 05, 2011, 04:39:55 AM
pieter: posting 'proof' links in the puzzles section is strictly prohibited. Please read:

http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=6372.msg44398#msg44398

This is your first warning.
Title: Re: MJW #179
Post by: pieter on January 05, 2011, 04:45:55 AM
Sincere apologies
Title: Re: MJW #179
Post by: woodinsight on January 05, 2011, 08:16:06 AM
Pieter - just saw you were ticked off about including links in your quote.

It's easily done so don't feel too bad about it.

As far as the puzzle goes, I think we have a mystery.

I have copied the short article where my info/photo came from - this is in the form of a letter from Nick Brittan.
He says that a "slightly-used" Lotus 22 was the base. He also concludes that the car was returned to Lotus and changed back to a racing car again.

What to believe?
Sadly Nick is no longer with us to clarify the issue.

What I've decided to do is to award you the point but keep the puzzle open for a couple of weeks for any more feedback/confirmation


Title: Re: MJW #179
Post by: woodinsight on January 05, 2011, 08:24:54 AM
Just come across this car - is it the same car modified or a recreation?
Title: Re: MJW #179
Post by: Allemano on January 05, 2011, 08:27:36 AM
I have this picture from a magazine feature about the London Motor Show:

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/399403ad.jpg)


and a pic obviousely showing the car in its current state:

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/4c20a024.jpg)
Title: Re: MJW #179
Post by: woodinsight on January 05, 2011, 08:33:08 AM
Thanks for that Allemano.
Good to see the car still exists in its 'road-going' form.

Perhaps Nick Brittan's memory was playing tricks on him when he wrote the letter.

I'll move it to Solved now but welcome any further response to this puzzle.
Title: Re: MJW #179
Post by: pieter on January 05, 2011, 08:35:23 AM
I double-checked the type 51 part, as the car seemed a lot older than what the type number would suggest, but that was all I could find. A type 22 sounds more like it.
Title: Re: Solved - MJW #179 - Lotus 51R (or 22?) "Flower Power" 1968
Post by: gte4289 on June 08, 2020, 07:27:53 PM
A better image was needed: