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Title: Solved - MJW #480 - Stevens GT Manley Imp
Post by: woodinsight on June 10, 2011, 07:52:10 PM
I don't know very much about this car and I only have this poor image of it.
Can you tell me the make and what engine was fitted?
Title: Re: MJW #480
Post by: woodinsight on June 19, 2011, 01:04:33 PM
Experts?
Title: Re: MJW #480
Post by: shamrock on June 19, 2011, 06:59:30 PM
fraser gt imp engine
Title: Re: MJW #480
Post by: woodinsight on June 19, 2011, 07:03:57 PM
Quote from: shamrock on June 19, 2011, 06:59:30 PM
fraser gt imp engine
It apparently has an Imp engine but is not a Fraser
Title: Re: MJW #480
Post by: woodinsight on July 14, 2011, 08:33:51 AM
Pros?
Title: Re: MJW #480
Post by: Carnut on July 14, 2011, 11:42:47 AM
Darrian?
Title: Re: MJW #480
Post by: woodinsight on July 14, 2011, 12:07:13 PM
Not Darrian, sorry
Title: Re: MJW #480
Post by: Carnut on July 14, 2011, 12:13:05 PM
Actually looks a bit Lotus-ish.  Any connection?
Title: Re: MJW #480
Post by: woodinsight on July 14, 2011, 05:42:18 PM
No Lotus connection as far as I'm aware but it is British
Title: Re: MJW #480
Post by: Carnut on July 14, 2011, 07:02:11 PM
Diva?
Title: Re: MJW #480
Post by: woodinsight on July 15, 2011, 12:56:50 AM
Not a Diva.
Let me provide you with a clue as this is I believe a hard one.
As far as I can ascertain, this is a one-off prototype by a known design company - perhaps for an established UK manufacturer. The car carries the name of the design company.
It has an Imp engine (modified by Manley) and is fitted with all-alloy bodywork.
The photo was cropped from a dealer' s listing when the car was for sale in the late 1970s/early 1980s.
Title: Re: MJW #480
Post by: Otto Puzzell on July 15, 2011, 04:15:18 AM
Looks like a an Eric Broadly design - any connection to Lola?
Title: Re: MJW #480
Post by: shamrock on July 15, 2011, 05:10:12 AM
OGLE
Title: Re: MJW #480
Post by: woodinsight on July 15, 2011, 05:43:44 AM
Neither Broadley or Ogle.
It's a company similar to Ogle.....
Title: Re: MJW #480
Post by: Quiller on July 15, 2011, 12:56:55 PM
Siva?
Title: Re: MJW #480
Post by: woodinsight on July 15, 2011, 03:11:16 PM
Not Siva.
Let me give a further clue....
The design company produced a car that was inexplicably rejected by the car manufacturer whilst the design that was accepted was basically a failure and had to be redesigned a few times.
No more clues now as I've been too generous so far!
Title: Re: MJW #480
Post by: Carnut on July 15, 2011, 07:27:11 PM
Quote from: woodinsight on July 15, 2011, 03:11:16 PM
Not Siva.
Let me give a further clue....
The design company produced a car that was inexplicably rejected by the car manufacturer whilst the design that was accepted was basically a failure and had to be redesigned a few times.
No more clues now as I've been too generous so far!

That could apply to the Michelotti Reliant Scimitar convertible but this design looks too early for that..?
Title: Re: MJW #480
Post by: Oguerrerob on July 15, 2011, 09:58:05 PM
Triumph?
Title: Re: MJW #480
Post by: woodinsight on July 15, 2011, 11:14:33 PM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on July 15, 2011, 09:58:05 PM
Triumph?
Not Triumph, I'm afraid.
Title: Re: MJW #480
Post by: woodinsight on July 15, 2011, 11:28:04 PM
Quote from: Carnut on July 15, 2011, 07:27:11 PM
Quote from: woodinsight on July 15, 2011, 03:11:16 PM
Not Siva.
Let me give a further clue....
The design company produced a car that was inexplicably rejected by the car manufacturer whilst the design that was accepted was basically a failure and had to be redesigned a few times.
No more clues now as I've been too generous so far!

That could apply to the Michelotti Reliant Scimitar convertible but this design looks too early for that..?
Not Michelotti but you have found the car manufacturer that this design company carried out proposals for - in the shape of prototypes. These were rejected by Reliant.
As far as I can tell, the puzzle car was a one-off and not constructed for any particular car manufacturer.
Title: Re: MJW #480
Post by: Carnut on July 16, 2011, 08:08:04 AM
Apart from Ogle, the only company I can find that made prototypes for Reliant was Motor Panels of Nuneaton (not too far away from the Reliant works at Tamworth)... unless it's Ashley?
Title: Re: MJW #480
Post by: woodinsight on July 16, 2011, 05:43:29 PM
Quote from: Carnut on July 16, 2011, 08:08:04 AM
Apart from Ogle, the only company I can find that made prototypes for Reliant was Motor Panels of Nuneaton (not too far away from the Reliant works at Tamworth)... unless it's Ashley?
Not Ashley or Motor Panels.
The design company in question made a well-known prototype (known name and model) and presented it to Reliant (not at Reliant's request) where they decided it was too expensive to produce.
Title: Re: MJW #480
Post by: Carnut on July 17, 2011, 06:17:32 AM
Specialised Mouldings?
Title: Re: MJW #480
Post by: woodinsight on July 17, 2011, 10:36:13 AM
Quote from: Carnut on July 17, 2011, 06:17:32 AM
Specialised Mouldings?
Not that
The company is best known under the designer's name.
In other words - X (forename) X (surname) Design Ltd.
Title: Re: MJW #480
Post by: Carnut on July 17, 2011, 11:18:35 AM
Chris Humberstone?
Title: Re: MJW #480
Post by: woodinsight on July 18, 2011, 12:07:01 AM
Quote from: Carnut on July 17, 2011, 11:18:35 AM
Chris Humberstone?
Not him but I'm sure you'll get it soon....
Title: Re: MJW #480
Post by: shamrock on July 18, 2011, 03:25:23 AM
Neville Trickett ?
Title: Re: MJW #480
Post by: Carnut on July 18, 2011, 06:11:40 AM
Peter Stevens?

Designed by Chris Lawrence? (remembering the only one guess at a time rule...!)
and built by Williams & Pritchard?
Title: Re: MJW #480
Post by: jotage21 on July 18, 2011, 07:34:28 PM
William Towns?
Title: Re: MJW #480
Post by: Djetset on July 20, 2011, 11:13:26 AM
Trevor Fiore?
Title: Re: MJW #480
Post by: woodinsight on July 20, 2011, 01:23:03 PM
Quote from: Carnut on July 18, 2011, 06:11:40 AM
Peter Stevens?

Designed by Chris Lawrence? (remembering the only one guess at a time rule...!)
and built by Williams & Pritchard?
You almost have the correct answer there Carnut but I don't know who actually constructed the body - it could have been W&P...
Title: Re: MJW #480
Post by: Carnut on July 20, 2011, 02:30:23 PM
You mean it was Chris Lawrence or it was Peter Stevens after all?!
Seems it was NOT built by W&P but since that wasn't part of the question I don't need to get that bit right anyway; you just need the make since the engine is already established.
If the correct answer is Chris Lawrence then it must be one of his Deep Sanderson projects, not the usual well-known one.  W&P DID build those, but not, it seems this car.
Title: Re: MJW #480
Post by: woodinsight on July 20, 2011, 02:40:53 PM
Quote from: Carnut on July 20, 2011, 02:30:23 PM
You mean it was Chris Lawrence or it was Peter Stevens after all?!
Seems it was NOT built by W&P but since that wasn't part of the question I don't need to get that bit right anyway; you just need the make since the engine is already established.
If the correct answer is Chris Lawrence then it must be one of his Deep Sanderson projects, not the usual well-known one.  W&P DID build those, but not, it seems this car.
It is neither Chris Humberstone or Peter Stevens but it is one of those surnames if you see what I mean.
Let me have the name of the designer - christian and surname and you have the point!
Locked for you until your next reply only.
Title: Re: MJW #480
Post by: Carnut on July 20, 2011, 02:46:09 PM
Right, I'm with you!
It must therefore have been designed by Tony Stevens of Stevens Cipher fame - hence the Reliant connection!
Title: Re: MJW #480
Post by: woodinsight on July 20, 2011, 03:39:33 PM
Quote from: Carnut on July 20, 2011, 02:46:09 PM
Right, I'm with you!
It must therefore have been designed by Tony Stevens of Stevens Cipher fame - hence the Reliant connection!
That's it!
It is simply a Stevens GT designed by Tony Stevens of Cipher fame.
The ad I took it from described it as a De Suto Stevens (see attached) but quite frankly I have no idea regarding the De Suto name.
I found another very small photo of the car that appears in the second photo.
I'd be grateful if anyone has any more information on this interesting and good looking (in my opinion) car.
Title: Re: Solved - MJW #480 - Stevens GT Manley Imp
Post by: Allemano on July 20, 2011, 03:48:03 PM
watching the tiny pic it seems to be a great looking car.
Title: Re: Solved - MJW #480 - Stevens GT Manley Imp
Post by: woodinsight on July 20, 2011, 03:51:49 PM
I think the car exists today and hope that more information is forthcoming soon.
Title: Re: Solved - MJW #480 - Stevens GT Manley Imp
Post by: Carnut on July 20, 2011, 05:59:00 PM
Quote from: Allemano on July 20, 2011, 03:48:03 PM
watching the tiny pic it seems to be a great looking car.

Yes - I'll offer £700 for it..  now where's the phone number in that ad?!!
Title: Re: Solved - MJW #480 - Stevens GT Manley Imp
Post by: neilshouse on July 23, 2011, 06:24:45 AM
Does anyone know the year of this car?
Title: Re: Solved - MJW #480 - Stevens GT Manley Imp
Post by: Carnut on July 23, 2011, 07:15:31 AM
Quote from: neilshouse on July 23, 2011, 06:24:45 AM
Does anyone know the year of this car?

I would guess at about 1968, but that is only a guess.
Maybe woodinsight has further information?
Title: Re: Solved - MJW #480 - Stevens GT Manley Imp
Post by: woodinsight on July 23, 2011, 09:28:04 AM
Quote from: Carnut on July 23, 2011, 07:15:31 AM
Quote from: neilshouse on July 23, 2011, 06:24:45 AM
Does anyone know the year of this car?

I would guess at about 1968, but that is only a guess.
Maybe woodinsight has further information?
Unfortunately I only have the info I found in the ad but I would agree with Carnut about it being late 1960s.
Title: Solved - NEH 3153: Stevens GT
Post by: Carnut on December 09, 2013, 07:22:20 AM
I know a very similar car to this has appeared here before, but I believe this is a different one.
So, what is it, for 1 point?:

ANYONE FOUND GIVING ANSWERS OBTAINED BY USING GOOGLE SEARCH BY IMAGE MAY BE BANNED FOR AN INDETERMINATE PERIOD!
Title: Re: NEH 3153
Post by: Carnut on December 20, 2013, 05:07:28 AM
Experts?
Title: Re: NEH 3153
Post by: WayneB on December 21, 2013, 04:34:42 PM
Is it from 1967?
Title: Re: NEH 3153
Post by: moltogatto on December 22, 2013, 05:11:20 PM
very similar to the Lola GT (Mk VI) :S
Title: Re: NEH 3153
Post by: Carnut on December 22, 2013, 06:38:18 PM
Quote from: moltogatto on December 22, 2013, 05:11:20 PM
very similar to the Lola GT (Mk VI) :S

But it's not a Lola..
Title: Re: NEH 3153
Post by: WayneB on December 23, 2013, 10:27:50 AM
Since I didn't get a reply to my previous question, I will have to go with this which I am unsure about.

1967 DeSauto Stevens Le Mans GT 1996cc, designed and built by Anthony Stevens in the UK.

He did some body design work for Davrian (later Corry and Darrian) which is how I came across this very rare car.
Title: Re: NEH 3153
Post by: Carnut on December 23, 2013, 10:42:40 AM
My apologies.
I'd only clicked on the 'NEW' icon and didn't scroll up so hadn't seen your reply..

It is just about what you say, although it's not quite the de Suto Stevens which has featured elsewhere here (see the link).
It looks slightly different and was, I believe, simply the Stevens GT.  A very nice looking car in my opinion.

A very obscure car indeed and well done finding that one.  Incidentally his main claim to fame was the Reliant Kitten-based Stevens Cipher
rather than Davrians or Darrians.  He is now Professor Tony Stevens and is involved in electrically-powered vehicles but unfortunately failed to reply to my several emails to him asking for information about this particular car.

http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=17143.msg171133#msg171133

Another, rather unclear, picture:

Title: Solved NIC#1243 - 1965 Desauto Stevens GT
Post by: nicanary on June 28, 2020, 07:13:26 AM
Here is a rarety. What is it, and what powered it?
Title: Re: NIC#1243
Post by: nicanary on July 26, 2020, 06:21:49 AM
Experts?
Title: Re: NIC#1243
Post by: fromwien on July 26, 2020, 06:32:13 AM
1 Desauto Stevens Imp  1967-69 (Imp engine). It is told, that in the car's late history two-Imp-lumps worked in its back, but I think, that can only be rumour... Cannot imagine that technically...
Title: Re: NIC#1243
Post by: nicanary on July 26, 2020, 06:38:13 AM
Quote from: fromwien on July 26, 2020, 06:32:13 AM
1 Desauto Stevens Imp  1967-69 (Imp engine). It is told, that in the car's late history two-Imp-lumps worked in its back, but I think, that can only be rumour... Cannot imagine that technically...

Amazing! I thought this would last longer but I think I know which websites you visit.

It was the work of Tony Stevens who was on the engine staff at Rootes Group, and was hoped to be an entry at Le Mans but Rootes declined it on funding grounds. I'm not sure if in fact the twin engines were ever installed although the car was advertised for sale in 1966 as a 2-litre 8-cylinder car. Any records show the car raced with one Imp engine fitted.
Title: Re: Solved NIC#1243 - 1965 Desauto Stevens GT
Post by: fromwien on July 26, 2020, 07:05:05 AM
Sorry, no websites. I am Imp-club-member since many decades... Have some photos from Ted Walker....
Title: Re: Solved NIC#1243 - 1965 Desauto Stevens GT
Post by: Djetset on July 26, 2020, 07:42:21 AM
This car (including the puzzle image) can be found quite widely online, including here at AP as it is a repost (although it wasn't given the full subject heading previously to help find it via a Search). Perhaps it can now be merged;

https://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/2013-42/solved-neh-3153-stevens-gt/
Title: Re: Solved NIC#1243 - 1965 Desauto Stevens GT
Post by: Carnut on July 26, 2020, 08:47:54 AM
It seems we've had it twice before, once as the Stevens GT:

https://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/2013-42/solved-neh-3153-stevens-gt/

And again as the Stevens GT Manley Imp:

https://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/2011-39/solved-mjw-480-stevens-gt-manley-imp/msg171133/#msg171133

This latter one includes a For Sale advert for the car, where it is described as the De Suto Stevens (Manley Imp).
It looks like the same car all three times to me, and if we all agree I'll merge them all into one puzzle?

But what was it reallly called?!
Title: Re: Solved NIC#1243 - 1965 Desauto Stevens GT
Post by: nicanary on July 26, 2020, 08:57:14 AM
I'm convinced it's one-and-the-same car. I can't believe more than one was built.  On a well-known results site it's entered as Desauto Stevens GT although on some sections of the same site it's just a Stevens GT!
Title: Re: Solved - MJW #480 - Stevens GT Manley Imp
Post by: Carnut on July 26, 2020, 09:43:34 AM
I've merged them into one.
There is a difference around the rear engine cover and intakes, but I can't believe they built more than one. It will have been modified during development.
Title: Re: Solved - MJW #480 - Stevens GT Manley Imp
Post by: fromwien on July 26, 2020, 12:06:10 PM
To get clear about the car's name: Here he is visible on a picture, taken in 1969 at Patscott Hill Climb by Ted Walker (ferret1)