Solved - MJW #632 - Rolls-Royce Phantom II by Hijos de Labourdette 1934

woodinsight · October 07, 2011, 04:58:45 AM

The base car is easy but which coachbuilder was responsible for the body.
For a point I need the make, model, year and the coachbuilder.

woodinsight · October 13, 2011, 03:25:04 AM

Experts?

whcgt · October 13, 2011, 05:13:16 AM

I will guess this as a 1934 Rolls Royce Phantom II Continental by Thrupp-Mayberley.

To be honest I have wasted many fruitless hours, searching for your puzzle cars. If I cannot find them with the google pictures...or a page that leads me to your puzzle car...in a reasonable fashion, I just give up. Also, I rarely search for the gazillion open wheeler cars that you post...unless they have a unique flare or characteristic. I have never found one of your puzzle cars, by simpley entering a google search & scrolling the photos. I waste my time on your puzzle cars it seems. Found the GM version of your coach-bus...never found the Dutch version of your coach-bus though...even with a language translation assistance. Please do not take offense with my lack of interest in your puzzles...they seem to be only rookie puzzles or professional puzzles that you post, skipping the expert puzzler abilitiy to solve.

woodinsight · October 13, 2011, 10:57:09 AM

Quote from: whcgt on October 13, 2011, 05:13:16 AM
I will guess this as a 1934 Rolls Royce Phantom II Continental by Thrupp-Mayberley. To be honest I have wasted many fruitless hours, searching for your puzzle cars. If I cannot find them with the google pictures...or a page that leads me to your puzzle car...in a reasonable fashion, I just give up. Also, I rarely search for the gazillion open wheeler cars that you post...unless they have a unique flare or characteristic. I have never found one of your puzzle cars, by simpley entering a google search & scrolling the photos. I waste my time on your puzzle cars it seems. Found the GM version of your coach-bus...never found the Dutch version of your coach-bus though...even with a language translation assistance. Please do not take offense with my lack of interest in your puzzles...they seem to be only rookie puzzles or professional puzzles that you post, skipping the expert puzzler abilitiy to solve.

No offense taken.
I can assure you that all my puzzles pass through the Expert level from Rookie level before promoting them to the Pro section.
You also have to remember that the majority of cars you post I haven't a clue about what they are.
We all have our own specialities I guess - horses for courses.......

The puzzle car is a Rolls-Royce Phantom II but of 1935.
Coachbuilder is not Thrupp & Maberley though.....somewhat more obscure.
I'll lock it for you if you want to have another guess.

whcgt · October 13, 2011, 04:36:59 PM

I will guess this as a 1935 Rolls Royce Phantom II Continental Saloon with coachwork by H. J. Mulliner

bentleybob · October 13, 2011, 06:08:13 PM

THe way the front headlamps have been fitted make me incline towards Spain

woodinsight · October 13, 2011, 10:38:00 PM

Quote from: whcgt on October 13, 2011, 04:36:59 PM
I will guess this as a 1935 Rolls Royce Phantom II Continental Saloon with coachwork by H. J. Mulliner

Sorry William but it's not that.
The coachbuilder is not British.

woodinsight · October 13, 2011, 10:39:21 PM

Quote from: bentleybob on October 13, 2011, 06:08:13 PM
THe way the front headlamps have been fitted make me incline towards Spain

You are inclined in the right direction.....

bentleybob · October 14, 2011, 04:35:21 PM

And this is a 1935 production Phantom II chassis? By Serra?

woodinsight · October 14, 2011, 05:06:10 PM

Quote from: bentleybob on October 14, 2011, 04:35:21 PM
And this is a 1935 production Phantom II chassis? By Serra?

Not Serra

bentleybob · October 14, 2011, 06:06:55 PM

Chassis 5 TA, off test 23.11.1934, bodied by Luis Labourdette in Spain for Don Luis Ruiz Ribas, last heard of in 1974?

woodinsight · October 15, 2011, 02:28:52 PM

Quote from: bentleybob on October 14, 2011, 06:06:55 PM
Chassis 5 TA, off test 23.11.1934, bodied by Luis Labourdette in Spain for Don Luis Ruiz Ribas, last heard of in 1974?

Indeed, bodied by Hijos de Labourdette in Spain - I have it completed in 1935.
Another point for you.

bentleybob · October 16, 2011, 05:45:54 AM

Of course off-test on 23 november 1934 would al ost cetainy mean that it would be months later before the body was on the chassis. For the guarantee, the car would need to be inspected by a Rolls-Royce inspector first, before delivery. In foreign countries or with unknown coachbuilders this could cost quite a bit of time, as someone would need to travel down: with Spain, it would be from France. For this reason some cars were supplied without guarantee...(customer got impatient). In Rolls-Royce folklore the build date is the determining factor, so it would be considered a 1934...Thanks for the point.

woodinsight · October 16, 2011, 11:46:02 AM

Very interesting, thanks for that extra information bentleybob.
I'll alter the year to 1934.

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Solved - MJW #632 - Rolls-Royce Phantom II by Hijos de Labourdette 1934