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Title: Solved - NEH 977: Empire Special
Post by: Carnut on March 03, 2011, 06:29:22 AM
What is this car called, and what is it based on, for 1 point?
Title: Re: NEH 977
Post by: Carnut on March 17, 2011, 09:42:54 AM
Experts?
Title: Re: NEH 977
Post by: Carnut on March 31, 2011, 07:30:27 AM
Professionals?
Title: Re: NEH 977
Post by: Djetset on March 31, 2011, 08:34:38 AM
As no one has put their hand up so far, I will be first to go.  So, is it Triumph (Herald/Spitfire chassis) based?
Title: Re: NEH 977
Post by: Carnut on March 31, 2011, 09:30:10 AM
As no one has put their hand up so far, I will be first to go.  So, is it Triumph (Herald/Spitfire chassis) based?

Not as far as I know, no.
It's a real mish-mash of parts but I don't know what actual chassis it uses.
What I'm hoping to glean from the successful Puzzler is what engine/wheels/'screen/lights etc are in there, because they're all from different cars!
Title: Re: NEH 977
Post by: João on March 31, 2011, 12:19:52 PM
Empire Special based on a Morris Minor? with MG,Triumph and Standard parts...
Title: Re: NEH 977
Post by: Carnut on March 31, 2011, 01:21:50 PM
Empire Special based on a Morris Minor? with MG,Triumph and Standard parts...

That is what the car is known as yes!
I don't know how much Morris Minor there is in it though, apart from the suspension.
It has an MG Midget 1275 cc engine and gearbox; Triumph TR3 wheels; a Morris 8 windscreen, bonnet, grille and radiator; an MG Magna scuttle; Standard 12 headlights and mudguards from a motorcycle!
Well done.

Here are a couple more pictures:

Title: Solved - NEH 5165: Empire Special by Franklin Woodcock
Post by: Carnut on June 22, 2017, 10:20:02 AM
Thos one has appeared here before but I have a little more information about it now.
What is it and who designed and built the chassis - for 1 point?:

Remember - solving puzzles using 'Google Search by Image' is BANNED on AutoPuzzles!
Title: Re: NEH 5165
Post by: Carnut on July 11, 2017, 07:40:17 AM
Experts?
Title: Re: NEH 5165
Post by: richard cuyler on July 11, 2017, 12:14:58 PM
BSA?
Title: Re: NEH 5165
Post by: Carnut on July 11, 2017, 06:07:16 PM
BSA?

No relation at all I'm afraid..
Title: Re: NEH 5165
Post by: sixtee5cuda on July 12, 2017, 08:17:34 AM
British?
Title: Re: NEH 5165
Post by: Carnut on July 12, 2017, 09:22:12 AM
British?

It is.
Title: Re: NEH 5165
Post by: D-type on July 12, 2017, 09:32:57 AM
Is it perhaps a Rover Speed 20?
Title: Re: NEH 5165
Post by: Carnut on July 12, 2017, 11:48:37 AM
Is it perhaps a Rover Speed 20?

It doesn't have any Rover bits in it AFAIK..
Title: Re: NEH 5165
Post by: richard cuyler on July 13, 2017, 10:03:37 AM
Is it a homebuild on a mainstream manufacturer's chassis?
Title: Re: NEH 5165
Post by: Carnut on July 13, 2017, 12:56:15 PM
Is it a homebuild on a mainstream manufacturer's chassis?

It's a homebuilt but not on a proprietary chassis...
Title: Re: NEH 5165
Post by: richard cuyler on July 20, 2017, 06:58:29 AM
So the wheels, radiator grille and windscreen offer no clues to us poor Puzzlers?
Title: Re: NEH 5165
Post by: Carnut on July 20, 2017, 09:04:14 AM
So the wheels, radiator grille and windscreen offer no clues to us poor Puzzlers?

They do..
They're nearly all from well-known cars but not sure about the grille..
Title: Re: NEH 5165
Post by: richard cuyler on July 23, 2017, 08:32:07 AM
To quote a Dragon: "I'm out!" :'(
Title: Re: NEH 5165
Post by: longtom on August 11, 2017, 09:53:18 AM
Windscreen looks Alvis ....
Title: Re: NEH 5165
Post by: Carnut on August 11, 2017, 11:11:33 AM
Windscreen looks Alvis ....

No Alvis bits in it that I'm aware of; definitey not the windscreen...
Title: Re: NEH 5165
Post by: Carnut on August 25, 2017, 12:52:50 PM
Professionals?
Title: Re: NEH 5165
Post by: oko94 on August 26, 2017, 04:36:27 AM
Does it include MG bits ?
Title: Re: NEH 5165
Post by: Carnut on August 26, 2017, 09:11:27 AM
Does it include MG bits ?

Yes, there are bits from quite a few cars including MG.
Title: Re: NEH 5165
Post by: oko94 on August 26, 2017, 09:20:15 AM
Does it include Triumph bits ?
Title: Re: NEH 5165
Post by: Carnut on August 26, 2017, 11:58:26 AM
Does it include Triumph bits ?

Yes
Title: Re: NEH 5165
Post by: oko94 on August 28, 2017, 04:32:31 AM
Morris MG Empire Special
Title: Re: NEH 5165
Post by: nicanary on August 28, 2017, 05:26:47 AM
Very well solved oko94. I thought the images may have been from social media, but now I know where to look. I thought the radiator was Rover or Alvis, but it's obviously a Morris 8hp.

Good puzzle.
Title: Re: NEH 5165
Post by: Carnut on August 28, 2017, 05:40:01 AM
That's the right car, so well done oko.

Here it is last time we had it:

https://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/2011-39/solved-neh-977-empire-special/msg153060/#msg153060

However- as I mentioned in my original post I now have more information about it so to fully solve this I need to know the name of the person who designed and built the chassis.
I'll give oko a point anyway for finding the car but I still need to know the other answer before this can be moved to solved (and merged).
Title: Re: NEH 5165
Post by: oko94 on August 28, 2017, 07:20:52 AM
In fact it was quite easy, as I just had to search for "MG Triumph" with AP search engine to find the previous puzzle !
Title: Re: NEH 5165
Post by: Carnut on August 28, 2017, 08:13:48 AM
In fact it was quite easy, as I just had to search for "MG Triumph" with AP search engine to find the previous puzzle !

Perhaps it was a bit over-generous to give you a point since I originally said I really need the name of the chassis designer...
Title: Re: NEH 5165
Post by: oko94 on August 28, 2017, 11:38:00 AM
At least it should be good for your karma !

Anyway, can the solution be found online ?
Title: Re: NEH 5165
Post by: Carnut on August 28, 2017, 11:41:02 AM
At least it should be good for your karma !

Anyway, can the solution be found online ?

I'm not sure; I haven't looked.  I didn't get the information on-line...
Title: Re: NEH 5165
Post by: oko94 on August 28, 2017, 11:43:27 AM
That's what I thought. Was it published in a British classic car magazine in 2017 ?
Title: Re: NEH 5165
Post by: Carnut on August 28, 2017, 11:48:10 AM
That's what I thought. Was it published in a British classic car magazine in 2017 ?

Yes
Title: Re: NEH 5165
Post by: oko94 on August 28, 2017, 11:50:26 AM
Was it published less than 4 months ago ?
Title: Re: NEH 5165
Post by: Carnut on August 28, 2017, 12:41:26 PM
Was it published less than 4 months ago ?

I believe so, yes.
But don't go looking through the major ones like C&SC and Classic Cars; you won't find it there!
Title: Re: NEH 5165
Post by: oko94 on September 06, 2017, 11:10:53 AM
Was it featured in a magazine dedicated to MGs ?
Title: Re: NEH 5165
Post by: Carnut on September 06, 2017, 03:46:52 PM
Was it featured in a magazine dedicated to MGs ?

No..
Title: Re: NEH 5165
Post by: oko94 on September 08, 2017, 03:40:11 AM
Was it featured in a magazine published by a classic car club ?
Title: Re: NEH 5165
Post by: Carnut on September 09, 2017, 04:25:11 PM
Was it featured in a magazine published by a classic car club ?

No - it was generally available to the public from newsagents.
Title: Re: NEH 5165
Post by: gte4289 on March 13, 2019, 12:21:52 AM
What is it and who designed and built the chassis - for 1 point?:
Empire Special. Chassis designed and built by Franklin Woodcock of Houghton on the Hill, Leicestershire.
Title: Re: NEH 5165
Post by: Carnut on March 13, 2019, 04:58:04 AM
Yes, well done!
That's what I was looking for.
Title: Re: NEH 5165
Post by: gte4289 on March 13, 2019, 06:04:47 PM
Yes, well done!
That's what I was looking for.
I just happened across another car forum where Mr. Woodcock himself has posted information about the car.
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 977: Empire Special
Post by: Carnut on March 13, 2019, 06:56:55 PM
It's good to get it moved to Solved at last!