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Title: Solved -PJ351- Jörg Helmling "nur so zu Spaß" Lotus-based car
Post by: Paul Jaray on November 01, 2010, 02:35:06 PM
Please, respond below and share your knowledge of what this is, and who built it. 

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Title: Re: PJ - 351
Post by: guido66 on November 01, 2010, 06:01:21 PM
2cv based?
Title: Re: PJ - 351
Post by: Paul Jaray on November 01, 2010, 06:07:30 PM
I have few info about, but I suspect it is not 2cv-based.
Title: Re: PJ - 351
Post by: Paul Jaray on November 06, 2010, 06:46:01 AM
This car is a sort of test-car for some elements the builder make for another car, quite known...
Title: Re: PJ - 351
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 06, 2010, 07:18:06 AM
Morgan?
Title: Re: PJ - 351
Post by: Paul Jaray on November 06, 2010, 07:30:23 AM
Not Morgan.
A big help: the car for which these elements are tested is totally different from the puzzle car.
Title: Re: PJ - 351
Post by: guido66 on November 06, 2010, 07:59:27 AM
Dutch?
Title: Re: PJ - 351
Post by: Paul Jaray on November 06, 2010, 08:14:18 AM
Not Duch.
Title: Re: PJ - 351
Post by: guido66 on November 06, 2010, 08:20:34 AM
German?
Title: Re: PJ - 351
Post by: Paul Jaray on November 06, 2010, 08:29:51 AM
The ...builder... is German, the car that is going to use those parts isn't.
Title: Re: PJ - 351
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 06, 2010, 08:47:28 AM
Bentley?
Title: Re: PJ - 351
Post by: Paul Jaray on November 06, 2010, 08:48:18 AM
Not Bentley, but the country is right.
Title: Re: PJ - 351
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 06, 2010, 11:21:08 AM
Mini?
Title: Re: PJ - 351
Post by: Paul Jaray on November 06, 2010, 11:54:28 AM
Not Mini...
Title: Re: PJ - 351
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 06, 2010, 02:02:52 PM
Vauxhall
Title: Re: PJ - 351
Post by: Paul Jaray on November 06, 2010, 02:03:39 PM
More exclusive...
Title: Re: PJ - 351
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 06, 2010, 02:04:41 PM
Rolls?
Title: Re: PJ - 351
Post by: Paul Jaray on November 25, 2010, 02:55:39 PM
I missed your reply...sorry about that.
Not R-R.
It is a well known brand, these days in a really good shape.
Title: Re: PJ - 351
Post by: Allemano on November 26, 2010, 02:02:46 AM
Aston Martin?
Title: Re: PJ - 351
Post by: Paul Jaray on November 26, 2010, 05:20:24 AM
Not A-M.
This brand is British but the new owners aren't...
Title: Re: PJ - 351
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 26, 2010, 05:27:50 AM
Jaguar?
Title: Re: PJ - 351
Post by: Paul Jaray on November 26, 2010, 05:30:21 AM
Not Jaguar...you heard a lot about it in the latest months for at least 2 different reasons...
Title: Re: PJ - 351
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 26, 2010, 05:31:21 AM
I guess that leaves Lotus?
Title: Re: PJ - 351
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 27, 2010, 07:57:17 AM
Maybe not.  :P
Title: Re: PJ - 351
Post by: guido66 on November 27, 2010, 09:23:18 AM
Land Rover?
Title: Re: PJ - 351
Post by: Paul Jaray on November 27, 2010, 02:43:11 PM
Lotus is correct!
(I don't know why, but sometimes I do not notice the 'new' topics...)
Title: Re: PJ - 351
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 27, 2010, 03:26:34 PM
Prototype to the later Lotus/Toyota Isuzu front-wheel-drive Elan?
 
Title: Re: PJ - 351
Post by: Carnut on November 27, 2010, 06:45:48 PM
(I don't know why, but sometimes I do not notice the 'new' topics...)


Just occasionally they don't flag up..
Title: Re: PJ - 351
Post by: Allemano on November 28, 2010, 03:38:26 AM
(I don't know why, but sometimes I do not notice the 'new' topics...)


Just occasionally they don't flag up..
In this case choose the "All Unread Topics" link!
Title: Re: PJ - 351
Post by: Paul Jaray on November 28, 2010, 11:36:43 AM
Back to the puzzle, then:
As stated in my reply #3, this is a test car for some elements made by a 'company' for a model of the past Lotus lineup.
It seems that the same man is also busy with another, quite different job.
I'm after the name of this man, since the 'company' has nothing to do with cars.
I know it's confusing, but when it will be found, probably some of our members will be able to explain.
Title: Re: PJ - 351
Post by: Djetset on November 30, 2010, 03:02:38 AM
Is this a Peter Stevens project?
Title: Re: PJ - 351
Post by: Paul Jaray on November 30, 2010, 01:48:00 PM
Not from any known name.
The key to find this car is to investigate on the builder's main activity, the nation and the Lotus model for these components.
Title: Re: PJ - 351
Post by: Djetset on December 06, 2010, 02:29:44 PM
Did the builder make other forms of transport (i.e. not cars?).
Title: Re: PJ - 351
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 06, 2010, 03:11:07 PM
Nothing to do (directly) with cars.
It's from Europe, but not Italy or UK.
Title: Re: PJ - 351
Post by: Djetset on December 06, 2010, 03:12:40 PM
Did they/do they make automotive componants?
Title: Re: PJ - 351
Post by: Otto Puzzell on December 06, 2010, 03:17:44 PM
Swatch?
Title: Re: PJ - 351
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 06, 2010, 03:27:00 PM
Not Swatch or any known maker of cars or any other object...it's more a provider of a service...let's say like a firm...
Title: Re: PJ - 351
Post by: Otto Puzzell on December 06, 2010, 03:28:01 PM
A bank?
Title: Re: PJ - 351
Post by: guido66 on December 06, 2010, 04:26:24 PM
To me, it looks like it's built on an Elise chassis.
Title: Re: PJ - 351
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 06, 2010, 04:33:18 PM
Not a bank and not Elise-based.
Title: Re: PJ - 351
Post by: Djetset on December 06, 2010, 04:49:59 PM
Made by/for an insurance company?
Title: Re: PJ - 351
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 08, 2010, 04:26:37 PM
OK, it's not my fault...sometimes I don't get the NEW script.
Not an insurance company, but not that far...
Title: Re: PJ - 351
Post by: Djetset on December 08, 2010, 05:08:40 PM
Was it a car created specially for an advertising promotional campaign (for an insurance firm, bank, etc.)?
Title: Re: PJ - 351
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 08, 2010, 05:37:47 PM
Nope.
This is a test car, a mule, used to test the 'elements' built.
I found a page on the web about this car but all the info (name of the builder, email address and the website itself) points to a different activity...
This man has got a different job than a builder of parts for that Lotus model.
I suggest you to find: this job, the country and the model...then google will do the rest.
Title: Re: PJ - 351
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2011, 08:37:16 AM
you need 3 elements to find this, all of them quite easy...then Google can do the rest.
1: place (europe not UK)
2: job (...like a firm...without Tom...)
3: model (not the current line-up but this name is the 1st you should think when you name Lotus....)

You will find it in the 1st page of results then, I just tried.
Title: Re: PJ - 351
Post by: Amsterdam on January 02, 2011, 10:33:39 AM
Place: Germany?
Job: anything to do with a GPS navigation company?
Model: Esprit?
Title: Re: PJ - 351
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2011, 12:51:54 PM
1: Yes.
3: Yes.
2: Not that Tom...
Probably my clue was too complicated. It's like a firm, and when I think of this word I remind a movie\book....
Title: Re: PJ - 351
Post by: Amsterdam on January 02, 2011, 01:05:49 PM
A lawfirm?
Title: Re: PJ - 351
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2011, 01:13:46 PM
Now you have all you need!
(just a very slight intuition and it will be in the 1st page of results googling the right words)
Title: Re: PJ - 351
Post by: Amsterdam on January 03, 2011, 05:43:41 AM
Rechtsanwaltskanzlei Jörg Helmling

Fragen / Questions ?    Mail to      Lotus@kanzlei-helmling.de  ;D
Impressum:Jörg Helmling, Willstätterstraße 30, 90449 Nürnberg  Tel.:0911/4622390 Fax:0911/619442
Title: Re: PJ - 351
Post by: Allemano on January 03, 2011, 06:02:16 AM
From the infos the website provides it's not obvious if this is a Lotus test vehicle for their own products or only a self-built spare part car. I would rather say it's the latter.
They write "nur so zu Spaß" which means nothing more than "only for fun" and like that mini-scooter below there's nothing mentioned about its purpose/history.

However: what makes you find these obscure mysteries again and again? :scratch:  :hail:
(for me the biggest mystery at all... :D)
Title: Re: PJ - 351
Post by: Amsterdam on January 03, 2011, 11:12:33 AM
Rechtsanwaltskanzlei Jörg Helmling

Fragen / Questions ?    Mail to      Lotus@kanzlei-helmling.de  ;D
Impressum:Jörg Helmling, Willstätterstraße 30, 90449 Nürnberg  Tel.:0911/4622390 Fax:0911/619442


Was this all you where looking for? As said by Allemano no further info then ''/And just for fun, we have the / testing just for fun.''
Title: Re: PJ - 351
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 03, 2011, 11:24:05 AM
Amsterdam, you found it!
No other info I need (because you saw yourself the source isn't that generous) and I'll move it soon.
Sorry for being late...
Title: Re: PJ - 351
Post by: Amsterdam on January 03, 2011, 11:32:58 AM
No problem, glad the answer is sufficient.  :thumbsup: Great puzzle and indeed a very strange combination of activeties on his site
Title: Re: Solved -PJ351- Jörg Helmling "nur so zu Spaß" Lotus-based car
Post by: Jörg on June 07, 2011, 04:17:46 AM
Hello Guys,

I am the builder of the car you were looking for. If you are interrested some details:

The chassis is a Lotus Excel SE from 1987. The engine has special cams and is completly worked. It has 190 hp at 6960 revs normaly. With a switchable ZF-charger it has about 280 hp at 6850 revs.

Rear differential is changed from 3.9:1 to 4.3:1 and has a LSD out of a Toyota rallye-car.

The car is streetlegal.

The weight is around 850 kg. The bodywork of the car is designed and built by myself. It is a mixture of an anti-roll-cage which holds the seats and the steering and some alloy strenght with gfk. That was the easiest way to built. And the chassis is much stronger. That's good for a well working adjustable suspension with race coils and dampers.

I lowered the chassis/suspension about 10 cm and placed most of the parts as low as posible.

I built the car from 1990-1995 on my own an use it since 1995 in daily traffic. The car did about 50.000 km in the new dress. Last year in August I drove in one day 1.621 km through France to Spain. 5 Days later back. The only problem I had, was the heat in and outside the car. No technical damage!

Equiped with semisportive tyres the racetrack is the place it does it's best. The car knows the Hockenheimring better then me.



Regards 

Jörg
Title: Re: Solved -PJ351- Jörg Helmling "nur so zu Spaß" Lotus-based car
Post by: Allemano on June 07, 2011, 04:30:30 AM
Great post, thank you Jörg!


Danke für Deinen Kommentar!
Einer der Gründe warum dieses Forum so fasziniert, ist, dass sich hin und wieder die Erbauer/Besitzer der Autos melden, die hier als Rätsel eingestellt wurden! Und dazu auch noch eine Vielzahl von Informationen liefern.
Title: Re: Solved -PJ351- Jörg Helmling "nur so zu Spaß" Lotus-based car
Post by: Paul Jaray on June 07, 2011, 07:43:06 AM
Thank you Jörg!

Have you got other pics of it? The front view is quite original, I wonder how it is in the other views.
Nice job!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Solved -PJ351- Jörg Helmling "nur so zu Spaß" Lotus-based car
Post by: Jörg on June 08, 2011, 11:24:11 AM
Hy Guys,

tried to put some pics in. But I can't. The system didn't work to copy my file.

I need an advice. Sorry

Jörg
Title: Re: Solved -PJ351- Jörg Helmling "nur so zu Spaß" Lotus-based car
Post by: Paul Jaray on June 08, 2011, 03:05:15 PM
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=17103.0  ;)

If you need to post more than a picture there is the "(more attachments)" option...if it's still not working, make sure they are of the right type: jpg, gif, png, jpeg, mpeg, etc...

if it is still not clear, just ask!
Title: Re: Solved -PJ351- Jörg Helmling "nur so zu Spaß" Lotus-based car
Post by: Jörg on June 09, 2011, 11:51:55 AM
Ok, if anyone gives me his email adress, I can send him the pictures

I don't find a more attechments button

Regards

Jörg
Title: Re: Solved -PJ351- Jörg Helmling "nur so zu Spaß" Lotus-based car
Post by: Paul Jaray on June 11, 2011, 04:45:01 PM
Email sent!  ;)