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Puzzles, Games and Name That Car => Solved AutoPuzzles => 2011 => Topic started by: Paul Jaray on April 27, 2011, 12:02:27 PM
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What is this?
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Never seen it before. First try to come near to it by confirming the obvious:
1930s US American rear engined one-off streamliner, not yet featured at AutoPuzzles.
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Never seen it before. First try to come near to it by confirming the obvious:
1930s US American rear engined one-off streamliner, not yet featured at AutoPuzzles.
Partially correct.
1 car was completed (this one) and another one was under construction (don't know if it was completed too).
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I've also some nice period pics of the completed car but since there's no interest.... ;D
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Never had interest in old fuzzy pics. ;D
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Never had interest in old fuzzy pics. ;D
Why aren't you watching the Royal Wedding then?
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Never had interest in old fuzzy pics. ;D
Why aren't you watching the Royal Wedding then?
Who is marrying who? ???
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Some islanders, they have nice cars in the family.
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Never had interest in old fuzzy pics. ;D
Why aren't you watching the Royal Wedding then?
How do you know that I am not watching the Royal Wedding, eh? :'(
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Is it the 1932 BreMac?
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Not from 32 and not a BreMac...
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If only I had downloaded it when I saw it...
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I found it again. Here is a rear view. But still no name.
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That is the car...I found the solution to that mistery...very detailed info... ;D
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The more I look for info about this car, the more I'm finding...you'd be surprised!
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I sure hope someone picked this car up and restored it.
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Here you are all there is to know to find it:
The builder of this car is not american but he comes from an european country.
He built this car in a small american city that almost shares its name with a bigger city (just one letter less).
A company was estabilished to manufacture this cars (XXXXXX Motors, Inc.).
The protype was planned to use a rotary engine, later switched to a Ford V8 unit.
The control system of the car was of aeronautical type. (push the steering wheel in to accelerate, pull it out to brake).
3 models with different wheelbases and power output were planned.
A racing version was studied with two 600hp engines and 350mph.
One running car and 4 frames were completed.
The builder left the States and back in his country was involved in a well known company were he designed a very well know object.
He build also another streamlined special in another country.
The car was discovered and sold in the 80s.
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where he designed a very well know object.
object means not a car?
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Not a car but an object very common in each house but not in that form.
If you know the nation, you'll immediatly guess the company (it's like "Switzerland and Swatch"...)
If you know the company, you'll have immediatelythe object but if you know the object it won't take you much to find out the company...(it's like "whatches and Swatch").
Once you'll know the object\company you will have the name.
I won't tell you too much because this man and the object he designed is VERY known...(well the object at least)...and once you have it, google will do the rest in 5 seconds.
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not rotary, but radial engine? It looks too old for a Wankel..
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Nope, rotary it was ;)
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Wild guess - Hoover?
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Not Hoover.
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did he design a technical product?
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He build also another streamlined special in another country.
Was the other streamliner seen on this site?
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did he designed a technical product?
Such as?
Sorry but it's a generic definition and I don't want to mislead you...I'll guess it's a technical product but don't know if we mean the same...
He build also another streamlined special in another country.
Was the other streamliner seen on this site?
Nope, but I have some pics.
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did he designed a technical product?
Such as?
something like a radiator or a mixer or a kitchen-aid etc.
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Nothing like that.
This one is very easy if you follow my clues: you have 2 ways.
If you got the nation, you'll got the Company and the object he designed...then google will give you the name.
If you got the object, you'll have directly the name.
Very common object...it can be found in each home...(but not in 1 it seems....)
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OK Experts, show me what are you able to do!
Remember, the key is the european nation....
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Back to experts?
And then "forward" to the Rookies? ;D
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just trying to have this solved...
...and I'll add that you'll need an easy detective work and not superpowers to solve it now:
this nation can be connected to few companies, so you can exclude Italy, UK, Germany, France....
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Switzerland. Swiss Army knife. So then the name is Knife or Victorinox or Karl Elsener. Victor Motors Inc.
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Good guess, but not from Switzerland...and not a knife.
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There is something wrong here: this puzzle is in the expert section, and here we are several professionals answering and posting...
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It didn't start here....
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just trying to have this solved...
Wouldn't it be more clever to let all join in? :scratch:
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There is something wrong here: this puzzle is in the expert section, and here we are several professionals answering and posting...
I know...was trying to shake things a bit...
It didn't start here....
..but the result is the same, it seems...
just trying to have this solved...
Wouldn't it be more clever to let all join in? :scratch:
Go ahead, then...back to the Pros!
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Denmark maybe? though I still don't match one particular design product to that country.
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Not Denmark...but quite close...
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Sweden?
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Perhaps IKEA - Ingvar Kamprad?
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Sweden?
:nod:
Perhaps IKEA - Ingvar Kamprad?
:shakehead:
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Rausing and TetraPak?
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Not that...remember, the company is not named after this designer...he just designed 1 object of that company....like that Brionvega TV color...(ring a bell?)
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Ericofon = Ericcson company? Ralph Lysell formerly Rolf Åre Nystedt.
Thanks for the "bell" hint. ;D
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:thumbsup:
If you check Lysell's bio you'll see that he was in the USA in the 30s, where he built a streamliner, then back to Sweden, where he designed the Ericofon for Ericsson and he had the time to build another streamliner in Norway!
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I found the streamliner he built in Norway, but that would be another puzzle...
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Is this spectacular design from 1937?
I found this to be one of the more attractive out of the streamlined and tear drop designs of the era.
Seems, even though he was not first, but his rear engine design and general layout of this special car was set aside from others thoughts and designs.
Perhaps Tucker was inspired by this particular tear drop and chassis?
Did I get the year right???
John
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Thanks to you, motorcar, I guess I found it:
"The 1937 Lysell was developed by Ralph Lysell, a Swedish engineer. He was able to persuade investors that a streamlined automobile with an engine in the rear could be produced in sufficient quantity to make it a profitable financial venture.
The Lysell prototype was fitted with a Ford 85hp V8. According to the corporation prospectus, a gas turbine was originally envisioned for the car. The transmission and front wheel assembly was borrowed from an L-29 Cord and moved to the rear of the car. The original steering mechanism was welded in position so that the wheels could not turn left or right. The Cord brakes were retained. The suspension was beefed up with another set of rear leaf springs.
The fuel tank was mounted high behind the rear seat passenger and can be filled from either side of the car. Petrol was gravity fed to the engine, removing the need for a pump. The car has hydraulic brakes fed from a master cylinder up front. The floorboards have to be lifted to fill the master cylinder.
The body was largely hand crafted from sheet metal and incorporated “borrowed” parts from various cars. The front bumper was from the 1934 Cadillac “flying wing”, the front fenders may be from a 1937 Chevrolet and the rear fenders from a mid-30’s Cadillac.
Five to seven men worked full shifts for over a year to produce the Lysell concept in a back garage of the Lee Metals company (described by one employee as “...nothing but a sledge hammer shop”). However, the car never made it into production."
Sorry, I was too lazy to make and type a short version of this.
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When this is declared "solved", I have a "before" picture to share, of the car when it was new.
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I can't wait to see it!
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Sorry...being quite busy.
The car is a Lysell Streamliner from 1937.
Point goes to Allemano.
Thank you Ray for the additional info.
I have a 4-page article from SIA magazine...I would like to scan it but you'll have to wait...(still moving...boxes everywhere...).
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What did Mr. Lysell design that is in every home? All I can find is the Ericophone, a rotary dial telephone and I don't anyone who has one of those in his home anymore.
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Here I'll post the pictures of the article...I'll scan the article and replace these with better quality scans:
SOURCE: Special Interest Autos
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What did Mr. Lysell design that is in every home? All I can find is the Ericophone, a rotary dial telephone and I don't anyone who has one of those in his home anymore.
Not a car but an object very common in each house but not in that form.
If you know the nation, you'll immediatly guess the company (it's like "Switzerland and Swatch"...)
If you know the company, you'll have immediatelythe object but if you know the object it won't take you much to find out the company...(it's like "whatches and Swatch").
Once you'll know the object\company you will have the name.
I won't tell you too much because this man and the object he designed is VERY known...(well the object at least)...and once you have it, google will do the rest in 5 seconds.
I do have a telephone in my home and I'm planning to have one in my new home soon. ;)
I meant he designed a telephone, which is a very common object in each home (but one...it seems Osama was not a fan of those devices).
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Thanks Signore Jaray!
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It doesn't add much, but here is the picture I found. It's the picture used in the story header, minus the text and the centerfold split.
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Thanks! I was about to photoshop the two pages of PJ's pics to one page together, but now I needn't anymore. :)
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PJ, now that you've bought yourself a complete SIA collection, I think that you should go all the way and invest in a scanner...
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I do have a scanner, and a pretty good one...problem is that is not by my archive and each time I need to connect all and it's quite boring...but finally I'm moving and I'll have all in the right place soon:
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=5010.msg160144;boardseen#new ;)
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I shut my mouth in shame!
Knowing how he is, I suppose that Geoff Hacker knows all about this SIA number, or do you want to warn him of this topic?
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I looked for it in the Mysterion pages but couldn't find it back...do you know where he posted this car?