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Title: Solved: PN #107 -- Jeep 1-ton truck, made by Th. Anwander's Söhne, Bregenz, Austria, 1947
Post by: pnegyesi on July 25, 2010, 05:37:23 AM
There are two points offered for this one. One for the donor and another for the year when this was built and the coachbuilder.
Title: Re: PN #107
Post by: pnegyesi on August 05, 2010, 01:14:59 AM
Experts?
Title: Re: PN #107
Post by: DeAutogids on August 05, 2010, 05:03:41 AM
Better than "I like it" I can't make it.

But is this from a Western European country?
Title: Re: PN #107
Post by: pnegyesi on August 05, 2010, 08:39:31 AM
Well, one of the two (donor or coachbuilder) is from Europe
Title: Re: PN #107
Post by: DeAutogids on August 05, 2010, 08:43:09 AM
Let's say the Donor is American and the coachbuilder European
Title: Re: PN #107
Post by: Carnut on August 05, 2010, 09:01:03 AM
Dodge?
Title: Re: PN #107
Post by: pnegyesi on August 05, 2010, 09:27:52 AM
Yes, the donor is American and the coachbuilder is European. But the basis is not a Dodge
Title: Re: PN #107
Post by: DeAutogids on August 05, 2010, 09:38:17 AM
The wheelbase reminds me somewhat of the PLM. Might it be based on that and bodied in Belgium?
Title: Re: PN #107
Post by: pnegyesi on August 05, 2010, 10:59:49 AM
No, it's got nothing to do with Belgium or PLM
Title: Re: PN #107
Post by: DeAutogids on August 05, 2010, 11:03:17 AM
French body?
Title: Re: PN #107
Post by: pnegyesi on August 05, 2010, 11:59:14 AM
Not a French body
Title: Re: PN #107
Post by: pguillem on August 05, 2010, 12:25:34 PM
"Auto Lux" ?
Title: Re: PN #107
Post by: pnegyesi on August 05, 2010, 01:48:42 PM
I don't think it had a proper name, but can you elaborate?
Title: Re: PN #107
Post by: pguillem on August 05, 2010, 04:20:24 PM
Autolux was an electrick truck made in Italy circa 1947, which looks like yours, but with some differences.  I doubt it is the one, alas !
Title: Re: PN #107
Post by: DeAutogids on August 05, 2010, 05:30:20 PM
Quote from: pguillem on August 05, 2010, 04:20:24 PM
Autolux was an electrick truck made in Italy circa 1947, which looks like yours, but with some differences.  I doubt it is the one, alas !
Italian? They made cars before the war then too
Title: Re: PN #107
Post by: pnegyesi on August 06, 2010, 12:51:43 AM
It is not Italian and not an Autolux.
Title: Re: PN #107
Post by: pnegyesi on August 12, 2010, 06:36:51 AM
Professionals?
Title: Re: PN #107
Post by: pnegyesi on August 30, 2010, 02:44:26 AM
Not one guess, okay, try to think of American vehicles which were abound in Europe right after the war
Title: Re: PN #107
Post by: guido66 on August 30, 2010, 05:46:06 AM
So, it's based on a WW2 US military Jeep?
Title: Re: PN #107
Post by: pnegyesi on August 30, 2010, 06:09:09 AM
exactly :) Now, try to find the coachbuilder.
Title: Re: PN #107
Post by: guido66 on August 30, 2010, 06:49:28 AM
from the Benelux?
Title: Re: PN #107
Post by: pnegyesi on August 30, 2010, 08:12:49 AM
move towards East
Title: Re: PN #107
Post by: Allemano on August 30, 2010, 08:18:38 AM
Germany
Title: Re: PN #107
Post by: pnegyesi on August 30, 2010, 10:37:11 AM
you are still not there. Just a little bit  towards the East :)
Title: Re: PN #107
Post by: guido66 on August 30, 2010, 02:55:19 PM
Poland?
Title: Re: PN #107
Post by: pnegyesi on August 30, 2010, 11:12:47 PM
No, it is a German-speaking country.
Title: Re: PN #107
Post by: Zanza on August 31, 2010, 02:18:49 AM
Switzerland, and the brand is composed of three letters, but I can't recall it at the moment  :'(

DTM, DRW ??
Title: Re: PN #107
Post by: pnegyesi on August 31, 2010, 02:57:26 AM
It is not Switzerland and not a 3-letter coachbuilder. Welcome to AutoPuzzles Zanza :)
Title: Re: PN #107
Post by: Allemano on August 31, 2010, 02:58:54 AM
Should be Austria then if my geography is right..
Title: Re: PN #107
Post by: pnegyesi on August 31, 2010, 03:18:33 AM
Yes, this is a Jeep bodied by an Austrian company. It is not impossible to solve this :)
Title: Re: PN #107
Post by: Allemano on August 31, 2010, 03:26:43 AM
Steyr?
Title: Re: PN #107
Post by: pnegyesi on August 31, 2010, 04:12:14 AM
No, this one was a small company in the westernmost part of Austria. It seems the family is still involved in the automotive business.
Title: Re: PN #107
Post by: Allemano on August 31, 2010, 04:16:16 AM
one of the classic Austrian coachbuilders?
Title: Re: PN #107
Post by: pnegyesi on August 31, 2010, 04:29:20 AM
I believe this wasn't a coachbuilder, rather a car-repair company which converted a jeep to a truck.
Title: Re: PN #107
Post by: pnegyesi on October 02, 2010, 01:00:10 AM
Don't give up on this one! I already gave a big clue on the location of the city, which is the capital of a state in Austria....
Title: Re: PN #107
Post by: guido66 on October 02, 2010, 04:09:27 AM
From Bregenz?
Title: Re: PN #107
Post by: pnegyesi on October 02, 2010, 11:14:38 AM
Yes, from Bregenz...
Title: Re: PN #107
Post by: pnegyesi on November 23, 2010, 12:04:10 AM
One last nudge before the Black Hole
Title: Re: PN #107
Post by: pnegyesi on December 08, 2010, 07:54:07 AM
To the Black Hole
Title: Re: PN #107
Post by: Vincent Vell Vet on January 05, 2011, 12:48:10 PM
Quote from: pnegyesi on August 31, 2010, 04:12:14 AM
No, this one was a small company in the westernmost part of Austria. It seems the family is still involved in the automotive business.
Is it okey-dokey to dive into the Black Hole and try to solve sumptin?
Or does this go against the rules?

Also, if I may axe you, in what capacity is this family involved with autos?
Auto repair I assume?
Title: Re: PN #107
Post by: pnegyesi on January 05, 2011, 01:39:21 PM
Please feel fry to try - I'd love if someone would put this one to rest. The family is in the automobile dealership business.
Title: Re: PN #107
Post by: Vincent Vell Vet on January 05, 2011, 02:14:07 PM
Ok, thank you!
Title: Re: PN #107
Post by: Vincent Vell Vet on January 05, 2011, 02:28:31 PM
Hander? Seitz? Birk? Wehinger? Strolz? Schneider? Anwander?
(Sorta cheating I realize.)
Title: Re: PN #107
Post by: pnegyesi on January 05, 2011, 02:50:38 PM
One of those. Which one do you choose? One question at a time :) And obviously locked for you
Title: Re: PN #107
Post by: Vincent Vell Vet on January 05, 2011, 02:57:30 PM
Yay!
Ok then, I'll use my amazing mind power and pick.....Strolz?
Title: Re: PN #107
Post by: pnegyesi on January 05, 2011, 11:31:18 PM
Not that one
Title: Re: PN #107
Post by: Vincent Vell Vet on January 05, 2011, 11:58:46 PM
I keep on a-searchin' like I'm a-goin' ta church-n and cain't find nuthin on any of those names relating to a wee little truck from the days of yeasteryears.
So I'll just have to keep guessing.

Is it Seitz?
Title: Re: PN #107
Post by: pnegyesi on January 06, 2011, 12:54:02 AM
Nope
Title: Re: PN #107
Post by: Vincent Vell Vet on January 06, 2011, 11:38:37 AM
 Hander?
Title: Re: PN #107
Post by: pnegyesi on January 06, 2011, 12:35:56 PM
You're running out of candidates, but still not the right one
Title: Re: PN #107
Post by: Vincent Vell Vet on January 06, 2011, 02:51:03 PM
I say with a smirk, Birk?

Thanks for bearing with me on this. I'm very interested to know the history.
Title: Re: PN #107
Post by: pnegyesi on January 06, 2011, 11:44:12 PM
Still not the right one
Title: Re: PN #107
Post by: Vincent Vell Vet on January 07, 2011, 12:57:34 PM
Wehinger? (not a cool name for a truck!)  :hah: "You drive a Wehinger, HAHA!"
Title: Re: PN #107
Post by: pnegyesi on January 07, 2011, 01:37:33 PM
Nope
Title: Re: PN #107
Post by: Vincent Vell Vet on January 07, 2011, 03:31:00 PM
Schneider ? ? ?  :hyper:
Title: Re: PN #107
Post by: pnegyesi on January 08, 2011, 01:04:13 AM
Nope
Title: Re: PN #107
Post by: Vincent Vell Vet on January 08, 2011, 02:22:31 PM
Jeesisss H. Chrysler, it would have to be the last one, wouldn't it!!!
So it's got to be Anawander, right?
Title: Re: PN #107
Post by: pnegyesi on January 09, 2011, 01:48:58 PM
So eventually you got there my friend :)

"In Bregenz-Kennelbach-Vorarlberg baut die Karosseriefabrik Th. Anwander's Söhne diesen 1-ton-Kleinlastwagen auf dem Jeep-Chassis"

Th. Anwander's Sons made this 1-ton small truck on the basis of a Jeep in Bregenz-Kennelbach-Vorarlberg in 1947.

Today the Anwander family is an Opel dealer.

Two points for you!
Title: Re: Solved: PN #107 -- Jeep 1-ton truck, made by Th. Anwander's Söhne, Bregenz, Austria, 1947
Post by: Vincent Vell Vet on January 09, 2011, 06:02:41 PM
Wow, THAT was easy.  ::) haha!

Thanks for your added info. I find this truck interesting.
I'm surprised it's a 1-ton!
Is there a source I could check out to learn a little more about these?
Title: Re: Solved: PN #107 -- Jeep 1-ton truck, made by Th. Anwander's Söhne, Bregenz, Austria, 1947
Post by: pnegyesi on January 09, 2011, 11:39:23 PM
I found this car in an old issue of Austro Motor. Maybe you'd contact the current Anwander company and see if they got any photos and info!
Title: Re: Solved: PN #107 -- Jeep 1-ton truck, made by Th. Anwander's Söhne, Bregenz, Austria, 1947
Post by: Vincent Vell Vet on January 10, 2011, 12:11:53 AM
Yes, I was thinking of doing just that as I have searched and searched on the web and can't find a single word or pic anywhere!
Title: Re: Solved: PN #107 -- Jeep 1-ton truck, made by Th. Anwander's Söhne, Bregenz, Austria, 1947
Post by: Otto Puzzell on January 10, 2011, 05:48:40 AM
Looks like "Vinnie The Torch" was tying to ID this at the very same time.  8)
Title: Re: Solved: PN #107 -- Jeep 1-ton truck, made by Th. Anwander's Söhne, Bregenz, Austria, 1947
Post by: Vincent Vell Vet on January 10, 2011, 12:27:16 PM
Yep, that's me!
I need all the help can get to even begin to keep up with you guys!
Title: Re: Solved: PN #107 -- Jeep 1-ton truck, made by Th. Anwander's Söhne, Bregenz, Austria, 1947
Post by: Wendax on October 12, 2013, 01:58:01 PM
On a 1949 magazine cover:
Title: Re: Solved: PN #107 -- Jeep 1-ton truck, made by Th. Anwander's Söhne, Bregenz, Austria, 1947
Post by: DeAutogids on October 13, 2013, 02:08:22 PM
Should it not be "Anwanders" instead of "Anwander's"?