A variation on a theme, but this time I needed only two images to upload.. ;)
Please match the cars with the places. As usual one point for each correct pairing!
Only complete ID'd cars and locations will win!
Hope this puzzle is a little more difficult than the last one.
Wendax solved it almost alone, so, roll your sleeves up! :D
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H - 11: Barcelona + Seat 133
Quote from: thorax on July 06, 2011, 10:56:54 AM
H - 11: Barcelona + Seat 133
Sorry, that's wrong.
Neat idea and puzzle :)
#12 - Fargo AS250
B - Fargo, North Dakota
Am I doing it right? :P
Quote from: JMC on July 06, 2011, 12:12:08 PM
#12 - Fargo AS250
B - Fargo, North Dakota
Am I doing it right? :P
Very! :applause:
The first pair is solved!
Correct pairings:
car#1: 1958 Renault Frégate Transfluide Coupé by Chapron matches place G: the Frégate Island. (JMC)
car#2: DAF Prototype P300 matches location I: the DAF Museum Eindhoven. (Otto Puzzell)
car#3: Cowley MkIV Formula 750 matches place M: Oxford Military College, Cowley, Oxfordshire. (Otto Puzzell)
car#4: 1938 Ford Bus by Sodomka comissioned by Bata matches place C Bata shoes headquarters, Toronto, Canada. (JMC)
car#5: Carman Apache Honda matches place N: the Apache Lake in Arizona. (Otto Puzzell)
car#6: Dutch Singer Nine LeMans Special Speed from 1936 matches location K: the Le Mans Cathedral (JMC)
car#7: 1950 Rotaprint-Mobil matches O: the Rotaprint factory building in Berlin. (JMC)
car#8: Trenke A52. matches place L the Mintarder Brücke Autobahn A52 bridge. (Tom_I)
car#9: 1961 Mikasa Service Car matches location A: the Mikasa River. (Siata1)
car#10: Le Marquis Daytona 2 door 'C' matches location F: Daytona Beach. (Wendax)
car#11: El Nasr (Seat) 133 matches place D: Nasr City, Egypt (navara)
car#12: Fargo AS 250 matches place B: Fargo in North Dakota. (JMC)
car#13: 1971 Warta prototype matches place E: bridge over the river Warta/Warthe in Schwerin. (navara)
car#14 1926 Ricart racing prototype matches N: Plaza de España in Seville. (removed)
car#15: 1927 Aries 3 Litres matches 'location' J: the constellation of Aries (JMC)
#11 - Seat 133
H - Central Plaza of Seville, Spain ?
Quote from: JMC on July 06, 2011, 01:27:30 PM
#11 - Seat 133
H - Central Plaza of Seville, Spain ?
No, wrong connection. However the place is right, but..
#1 - 1958 Renault Frégate Transfluide Coupé by Chapron
G - Frégate Island ?
Quote from: JMC on July 06, 2011, 01:35:46 PM
#1 - 1958 Renault Frégate Transfluide Coupé by Chapron
G - Frégate Island ?
Yes, next correct pairing!
#9 = Mikasa Car
A = Mikasa River
Quote from: Siata1 on July 06, 2011, 02:16:22 PM
#9 = Mikasa Car
A = Mikasa River
Not bad! "Mikasa Car" needs a little more, though. Locked for you untill your next reply.
Mikasa Service Car 1961, Okamura Mfg. Co., Ltd., Yokohama, 2 cyl., 585 ccm, 18 HP (DIN)
Quote from: Siata1 on July 06, 2011, 02:26:14 PM
Mikasa Service Car 1961, Okamura Mfg. Co., Ltd., Yokohama, 2 cyl., 585 ccm, 18 HP (DIN)
I have another name for it. Not
Service Car.
I've done a little research now and it seems that you are right after all!
Would you accept Mark I?
Quote from: Allemano on July 06, 2011, 02:31:45 PM
I've done a little research now and it seems that you are right after all!
;)
This is one of the most frustrating puzzles I've ever seen!
Quote from: barrett on July 07, 2011, 10:15:38 AM
This is one of the most frustrating puzzles I've ever seen!
Why? (http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/Gifs/44.gif)
Because I can't match any of the cars that I recognise to any of the places, simple as that! If I didn't know any of the cars it wouldn't be so frustrating!
#4 - 1938 Sodomka bodied streamlined bus on a Ford chassis comissioned by Bata
C - Bata shoes former headquarters, Toronto
Quote from: JMC on July 07, 2011, 11:00:26 AM
#4 - 1938 Sodomka bodied streamlined bus on a Ford chassis comissioned by Bata
C - Bata shoes former headquarters, Toronto
V-E-R-Y good! :)
Okay, I'll have a guess
#6 & E - Singer Nine Le Mans and the Sarthe River at Le Mans?
Quote from: barrett on July 07, 2011, 12:26:37 PM
Okay, I'll have a guess
#6 & E - Singer Nine Le Mans and the Sarthe River at Le Mans?
Right car (sort of), but wrong connection.
Does it connect to K - Le Mans Cathedral, France?
Quote from: JMC on July 07, 2011, 03:26:00 PM
Does it connect to K - Le Mans Cathedral, France?
Right!
Quote from: Allemano on July 07, 2011, 03:30:18 PM
Quote from: JMC on July 07, 2011, 03:26:00 PM
Does it connect to K - Le Mans Cathedral, France?
Right!
Can you tell a little more on this special Singer, though?
Locked for JMC!
I know it's a Singer Nine LeMans Special Speed from 1936 with a custom front end and it belonged (or still belongs) to a 'Mr. Huizinga'.
Quote from: JMC on July 07, 2011, 04:02:48 PM
I know it's a Singer Nine LeMans Special Speed from 1936 with a custom front end and it belonged (or still belongs) to a 'Mr. Huizinga'.
That's enough for a point!
#7 - 1950 Rotaprint-Mobil
O - Rotaprint former factory, Gottschedstraße 4, 13357 Berlin
Quote from: JMC on July 07, 2011, 04:22:33 PM
#7 - 1950 Rotaprint-Mobil
O - Rotaprint former factory, Gottschedstraße 4, 13357 Berlin
Amazing! That was a hard one I guess! :applause:
is the car no. 13 connected with the "E" photo?
Quote from: del78 on July 07, 2011, 07:16:25 PM
is the car no. 13 connected with the "E" photo?
:nod:
Does J refer to a name of a constellation?
Quote from: JMC on July 08, 2011, 05:03:38 AM
Does J refer to a name of a constellation?
:nod:
Let's go by the shape: Orion constellation?
Quote from: JMC on July 08, 2011, 05:37:48 AM
Let's go by the shape: Orion constellation?
I already had Orion in a former "Cars and Places" puzzle.
How boring would it be to use it twice....!
Hercules maybe?
Is the name of the constellation a zodiac sign too?
Quote from: JMC on July 08, 2011, 07:04:05 AM
Is the name of the constellation a zodiac sign too?
:nod:
Hmm...Gemini?
Scorpio?
Is the name of the Zodiac sign in English or a foreign form?
As car #10 is the Chameleon Typhoon I am guessing the constellation is Chamaeleon.
So 10 - J?
Quote from: JMC on July 08, 2011, 07:20:24 AM
Is the name of the Zodiac sign in English or a foreign form?
Not in English..
Quote from: Oswald on July 08, 2011, 07:49:09 AM
As car #10 is the Chameleon Typhoon I am guessing the constellation is Chamaeleon.
So 10 - J?
No Chameleons in this puzzle.
Italian?
An European country at all?
I think 13 is a Warta car
and E is a bridge over the river Warta.
Quote from: navara on July 08, 2011, 08:19:52 AM
I think 13 is a Warta car
and E is a bridge over the river Warta.
Locked for you to give me more exact details.
Quote from: Allemano on July 08, 2011, 08:27:30 AM
Quote from: navara on July 08, 2011, 08:19:52 AM
I think 13 is a Warta car
and E is a bridge over the river Warta.
Locked for you to give me more exact details.
damn it
i knew the car but i couldn't find any info about that bridge
13 is the Warta, a prototype for a farmers vehicle made in Poznan,
e is the old river bridge at Schwerin on the river Warta, ( which is the neighbouring town to Poznan.
That is the limit of my Warta knowledge!
Quote from: navara on July 08, 2011, 01:26:46 PM
13 is the Warta, a prototype for a farmers vehicle made in Poznan,
e is the old river bridge at Schwerin on the river Warta, ( which is the neighbouring town to Poznan.
That is the limit of my Warta knowledge!
Nicely done! In German the river 's called 'Warthe'
D is Nasr City, in Egypt, which matches to CAR 11, the Seat 133. The little Seat was later produced in Egypt by the NASR car company.
#3 Lola Daytona and #F Daytona Beach ?
number 10, may be a Chameleon Daytona, which would link to F, Daytona beach
Quote from: navara on July 08, 2011, 02:37:04 PM
D is Nasr City, in Egypt, which matches to CAR 11, the Seat 133. The little Seat was later produced in Egypt by the NASR car company.
Correct, though my source doesn't list it as a Seat, but "El Nasr". I don't know what's definetly right in this case. Declared as solved.
Quote from: navara on July 08, 2011, 02:49:06 PM
number 10, may be a Chameleon Daytona, which would link to F, Daytona beach
As mentioned before there's no Chameleon in this puzzle. The connection you've found is correct, though, but I have another name for the car.
Quote from: JMC on July 08, 2011, 02:33:44 PM
Transcontinental country then?
No. That language is spoken by many people all over the world, but a lot more by elders...
Do you mean Latin?
Aries maybe?
Quote from: JMC on July 08, 2011, 04:41:48 PM
Aries maybe?
You walk on thin eyes.. I don't want to lock it before you've made an educated guess..
Quote from: Allemano on July 08, 2011, 03:26:14 PM
Quote from: navara on July 08, 2011, 02:37:04 PM
D is Nasr City, in Egypt, which matches to CAR 11, the Seat 133. The little Seat was later produced in Egypt by the NASR car company.
Correct, though my source doesn't list as a Seat, "El Nasr". I don't know what's definetly right in this case. Declared as solved.
El Nasr is made by Egypt's El Nasr Automotive Manufacturing Company, founded in 1960.
Allemano and Pguillem are correct, El Nasr 133 is how the little Seat was sold in Egypt.
before I move it to Professionals: are you ready Experts?
Quote from: Allemano on July 08, 2011, 04:44:45 PMYou walk on thin eyes.. I don't want to lock it before you've made an educated guess..
The french Ariès vehicle manufacturer?
Quote from: JMC on July 10, 2011, 01:54:05 PM
Quote from: Allemano on July 08, 2011, 04:44:45 PMYou walk on thin eyes.. I don't want to lock it before you've made an educated guess..
The french Ariès vehicle manufacturer?
Which one of these?
SA Ariès, Courbevoie, Seine
Founded in 1903 by Baron Petiet
I would say J connects to car #15, which is most likely an Ariès.
Ariès Grand Sport?
Quote from: JMC on July 10, 2011, 02:19:13 PM
SA Ariès, Courbevoie, Seine
Founded in 1903 by Baron Petiet
I would say J connects to car #15, which is most likely an Ariès.
Ariès Grand Sport?
It's the right company and it's indeed car #15, but I have a different name for that particular car. Locked for you for one more try!
Maybe Ariès 15cv GP2?
No. Open for all! (except of Pro's of course)
Ariès 3 Litres?
Car no.2 is a DAF prototype, it belongs to postcard I (DAF museum, Eindhoven)
Quote from: Limo on July 11, 2011, 02:41:52 PM
Car no.2 is a DAF prototype, it belongs to postcard I (DAF museum, Eindhoven)
Correct, but on the car you should give a more precise reply.
One more try for you!
Pro's.
#10 Le Marquis Daytona 2 door 'C' matches F Daytona Beach
Quote from: Wendax on July 13, 2011, 04:31:01 AM
#10 Le Marquis Daytona 2 door 'C' matches F Daytona Beach
That's the ticket! :thumbsup:
Quote from: Allemano on July 11, 2011, 03:06:39 PM
Quote from: Limo on July 11, 2011, 02:41:52 PM
Car no.2 is a DAF prototype, it belongs to postcard I (DAF museum, Eindhoven)
Correct, but on the car you should give a more precise reply.
One more try for you!
24h before I'll unlock it again.
Just to make it a little less confusing.
Still open:
#2 = Triumph Toledo proposal
H = Main square in Toledo, Spain
I was going to put this ages ago but didn't someone say H was Seville and that was deemed correct?
Quote from: Carnut on July 13, 2011, 06:07:15 PM
#2 = Triumph Toledo proposal
H = Main square in Toledo, Spain
I was going to put this ages ago but didn't someone say H was Seville and that was deemed correct?
Sorry, but this is wrong on both counts.
Quote from: Allemano on July 06, 2011, 01:28:17 PM
Quote from: JMC on July 06, 2011, 01:27:30 PM
#11 - Seat 133
H - Central Plaza of Seville, Spain ?
No, wrong connection. However the place is right, but..
Maybe I should have said: it's the right place, but...
Car 5 / Carman Apache Honda / Hayashi Racing / 1969 Japan Grand Prix
Place N / Apache Lake - one of four artificial reservoirs created along the Salt River in central Arizona
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on July 14, 2011, 04:51:13 AM
Car 5 / Carman Apache Honda / Hayashi Racing / 1969 Japan Grand Prix
Place N / Apache Lake - one of four artificial reservoirs created along the Salt River in central Arizona
Yes Sir! :applause:
Car #3 / Cowley MkIV. Built in the early seventies by the initiative designer Bill Cowely, who's earlier cars had include elastic band suspension, this car had many well thought out design features - not least its mid-engined layout. In a class noted for small, lightweight cars, this one stood out by being of go-cart proportions. Not withstanding the fact it was the only car with a roof! it still managed to be one of the lowest F750s racing at the time. (most of the drivers in clubman style cars in this racecould see over the white hardboard behind the car.) A very low frontal area was achieved by placing the engine and gearbox behind the driver. To achieve a mid-engine layout and still retain the beam axel, the gearbox, which was situated just behind the driver's left shoulder, was attached by means of a short propshaft to the diff. The engine was turned through 180 degrees and placed alongside the gearbox facing backwards, the two being clamped to an aluminium adaptor plate. To provide drive, a toothed belt joined the output shaft of the engine to the input shaft of the gearbo
Place M / Oxford Military College, Cowley, Oxfordshire, as it was drawn in 1884 by architect T.G. Jackson
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on July 14, 2011, 05:26:31 AM
Car #3 / Cowley MkIV. Built in the early seventies by the initiative designer Bill Cowely, who's earlier cars had include elastic band suspension, this car had many well thought out design features - not least its mid-engined layout. In a class noted for small, lightweight cars, this one stood out by being of go-cart proportions. Not withstanding the fact it was the only car with a roof! it still managed to be one of the lowest F750s racing at the time. (most of the drivers in clubman style cars in this racecould see over the white hardboard behind the car.) A very low frontal area was achieved by placing the engine and gearbox behind the driver. To achieve a mid-engine layout and still retain the beam axel, the gearbox, which was situated just behind the driver's left shoulder, was attached by means of a short propshaft to the diff. The engine was turned through 180 degrees and placed alongside the gearbox facing backwards, the two being clamped to an aluminium adaptor plate. To provide drive, a toothed belt joined the output shaft of the engine to the input shaft of the gearbo
Place M / Oxford Military College, Cowley, Oxfordshire, as it was drawn in 1884 by architect T.G. Jackson
:faint: Great job!
This connection is tenuous, as I cannot link more than the coutnry of Span, but here goes:
Car #14 / 1927 Motores y Automóviles Ricart 226, built by Spaniard Wifredo Ricart, who would later be the father of the Pegaso
Place H / The Plaza de España is a building in Maria Luisa Park, in Seville, Spain built in 1928 for the Ibero-American Exposition of 1929
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on July 14, 2011, 05:35:29 AM
This connection is tenuous, as I cannot link more than the coutnry of Span, but here goes:
Car #14 / 1927 Motores y Automóviles Ricart 226, built by Spaniard Wifredo Ricart, who would later be the father of the Pegaso
Place H / The Plaza de España is a building in Maria Luisa Park, in Seville, Spain built in 1928 for the Ibero-American Exposition of 1929
Mr Puzzell, you really left me speechless.
It's right of course, but I do have a
very clear and easy (not only tenuous) connection for this. And it's indeed "Spain" somehow...
Locked for you.
I'm stumped :scratch:
Please let another AutoPuzzler have a go at this one.
As you wish. Unlocked!
What has Michelotti's DAF prototype to do with it?
Quote from: Allemano on July 14, 2011, 05:41:02 AM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on July 14, 2011, 05:35:29 AM
This connection is tenuous, as I cannot link more than the coutnry of Span, but here goes:
Car #14 / 1927 Motores y Automóviles Ricart 226, built by Spaniard Wifredo Ricart, who would later be the father of the Pegaso
Place H / The Plaza de España is a building in Maria Luisa Park, in Seville, Spain built in 1928 for the Ibero-American Exposition of 1929
Mr Puzzell, you really left me speechless.
It's right of course, but I do have a very clear and easy (not only tenuous) connection for this. And it's indeed "Spain" somehow...
Locked for you.
OK - let's try this: A 50th Anniversary Pegaso exhibit was held at the Centre de Cultura Contemporània de Barcelona
March 21st through June 4th, 2001. Barcelona was Wifredo Ricart'S birthplace.
I don't think that this one has been solved yet, but Car #2 is.....
EDIT: Oops, sorry, I think this is still locked for Limo.
I almost did that, too. The 24 hours are up, but I defer to Allemano to officially unlock.
Quote from: Tom_I on July 14, 2011, 03:31:44 PM
I don't think that this one has been solved yet, but Car #2 is.....
EDIT: Oops, sorry, I think this is still locked for Limo.
It's open again!
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on July 14, 2011, 03:15:15 PM
Quote from: Allemano on July 14, 2011, 05:41:02 AM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on July 14, 2011, 05:35:29 AM
This connection is tenuous, as I cannot link more than the coutnry of Span, but here goes:
Car #14 / 1927 Motores y Automóviles Ricart 226, built by Spaniard Wifredo Ricart, who would later be the father of the Pegaso
Place H / The Plaza de España is a building in Maria Luisa Park, in Seville, Spain built in 1928 for the Ibero-American Exposition of 1929
Mr Puzzell, you really left me speechless.
It's right of course, but I do have a very clear and easy (not only tenuous) connection for this. And it's indeed "Spain" somehow...
Locked for you.
OK - let's try this: A 50th Anniversary Pegaso exhibit was held at the Centre de Cultura Contemporània de Barcelona
March 21st through June 4th, 2001. Barcelona was Wifredo Ricart'S birthplace.
No. In fact it's much easier. I've already said the place you've mentioned before is correct.
Quote from: Allemano on July 15, 2011, 12:41:54 AM
Quote from: Tom_I on July 14, 2011, 03:31:44 PM
I don't think that this one has been solved yet, but Car #2 is.....
EDIT: Oops, sorry, I think this is still locked for Limo.
It's open again!
In that case, it's:
#2 / DAF Prototype P300
I / DAF Museum Eindhoven
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on July 15, 2011, 04:36:18 AM
In that case, it's:
#2 / DAF Prototype P300
I / DAF Museum Eindhoven
Sorry Limo, but this point goes to Mr. Puzzell as well.
only car #8 and #14 are still unsolved.
I would have guessed #14 is one of the easiest...
#8 is a little tricky and I'm very proud to found that connection. ;D
Quote from: Allemano on July 15, 2011, 12:43:47 AM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on July 14, 2011, 03:15:15 PM
Quote from: Allemano on July 14, 2011, 05:41:02 AM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on July 14, 2011, 05:35:29 AM
This connection is tenuous, as I cannot link more than the coutnry of Span, but here goes:
Car #14 / 1927 Motores y Automóviles Ricart 226, built by Spaniard Wifredo Ricart, who would later be the father of the Pegaso
Place H / The Plaza de España is a building in Maria Luisa Park, in Seville, Spain built in 1928 for the Ibero-American Exposition of 1929
Mr Puzzell, you really left me speechless.
It's right of course, but I do have a very clear and easy (not only tenuous) connection for this. And it's indeed "Spain" somehow...
Locked for you.
OK - let's try this: A 50th Anniversary Pegaso exhibit was held at the Centre de Cultura Contemporània de Barcelona
March 21st through June 4th, 2001. Barcelona was Wifredo Ricart'S birthplace.
No. In fact it's much easier. I've already said the place you've mentioned before is correct.
LA EXPOSICIÓN INTERNACIONAL DE BARCELONA DE 1929 1/5 / Francesc-Xavier Mingorance i Ricart, T-CUA Tutories Culturals i Artístiques ?
QuoteThe Plaza de España (...)
There's everything you need to solve it. No more clues from me now.
OK - maybe Limo can get his point back. :)
Quote from: Allemano on July 15, 2011, 04:45:36 AM
I would have guessed #14 is one of the easiest...
You don't have to rub it in - my Spanish skills are weak, I know. :shiner:
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on July 15, 2011, 05:06:45 AM
Quote from: Allemano on July 15, 2011, 04:45:36 AM
I would have guessed #14 is one of the easiest...
You don't have to rub it in - my Spanish skills are weak, I know. :shiner:
Got nothing to do with your Spanish skills, you simply overlook something..
Well, this has been a struggle, but I think I have finally identified Car #8, the small 4-wheel steering transporter, as a Trenkle A52.
The link is obviously with Place L, the magnificent viaduct, and this is the Mintarder Brücke, which crosses the Ruhr valley near Mülheim in Germany, and which forms part of the A52 autobahn running between Essen and Düsseldorf.
Quote from: Tom_I on July 15, 2011, 05:33:28 PM
Well, this has been a struggle, but I think I have finally identified Car #8, the small 4-wheel steering transporter, as a Trenkle A52.
The link is obviously with Place L, the magnificent viaduct, and this is the Mintarder Brücke, which crosses the Ruhr valley near Mülheim in Germany, and which forms part of the A52 autobahn running between Essen and Düsseldorf.
Great work Tom_I! That's exactly what I had in mind!! :applause:
I'm not absolutely sure about the last one, but it's been established that Car #14 is the 1927 Ricart 266.
In 1928 Wifredo Ricart joined forces with the founder of the recently collapsed España car company, to make cars under the name Ricart-España. That would then provide a tenuous link to Place H, the Plaza de España in Seville, built in the same year.
Quote from: Tom_I on July 16, 2011, 12:06:53 PM
I'm not absolutely sure about the last one, but it's been established that Car #14 is the 1927 Ricart 266.
In 1928 Wifredo Ricart joined forces with the founder of the recently collapsed España car company, to make cars under the name Ricart-España. That would then provide a tenuous link to Place H, the Plaza de España in Seville, built in the same year.
Absolutely! It is a Ricart-España which matches the Plaza de España in Seville. Simple as that!
But the puzzle car is not a Ricartt-España.
I was being to literal, to my own detriment. :shiner:
I'd have to agree with Otto. If I've understood correctly the car shown was one of two prototypes made by Motores y Automóviles Ricart, a company which he established in 1926, and which pre-dated the link-up with España. That's why I wasn't sure it was the right answer!
Oh I see... apologize, but I believed it acutally IS a Ricart-España.
I think I remove this car from the result board then.
And another group puzzle has been solved. I hope you enjoyed it!
the scoreboard:
JMC: 6 points
Otto Puzzell: 3 points
navara: 2 points
Tom_I, Siata1 & Wendax: 1 point each
Well done gentlemen! :applause:
A folder with construction drawings and bills for the Rotaprint Express was on auction:
Quote from: Wendax on September 23, 2013, 11:53:46 AM
A folder with construction drawings and bills for the Rotaprint Express was on auction:
Neat!
Another nice Rotaprint shot: