AutoPuzzles - The Internet's Museum of Rare Cars!

Puzzles, Games and Name That Car => Solved AutoPuzzles => 2011 => Topic started by: Wendax on September 01, 2011, 09:20:25 AM

Title: Solved: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: Wendax on September 01, 2011, 09:20:25 AM: Time for another group puzzle. You can see 30 wheels belonging to 30 different cars. To make the identification not too hard, I included a little bit of the wheelarches. ;)
What you have to do is to find wheel triples that are connected through the model names of the cars they come from. But, two out of three ain't bad, only two cars each have the same model designation, the third name is just similar to the other two. There will be one point awarded to each triple found. Have fun!
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: Wendax on September 01, 2011, 09:22:42 AM: ...
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: Wendax on September 01, 2011, 09:24:11 AM: ...
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: Wendax on September 01, 2011, 09:26:12 AM: These are the right combinations:
#1 Buick Riviera - #19 Jagst 770 Riviera - #12 ReVere Model A (Joao)
#2 Virgo dune buggy - #29 Microcar Virgo - #28 Marussia Virgin VR-01 (Oguerrerob)
#15 AMC Matador - #25 Tempo Matador - #6 Bill Cushenberry's El Matador (whcgt)
#18 Chevrolet Nova - #27 Ligier Nova - #21 Lada Niva (Oguerrerob)
# 26 Isuzu Amigo - #30 Steinwinter Amigo - #9 Citroen Ami 6 (Oguerrerob)
#14 Daewoo Royale XQ - #24 Bugatti Royale - #16 Chrysler Royal (neilshouse)
#3 Mercury Cougar - #23 Ford Cougar I - #5 Ford Kuga (Joao)
#8 Sunbeam Tiger - #17 Krupp Tiger - #20 Panhard PL17 Tigre (Oguerrerob)
#7 Fiat 126 Bambino - #13 Hostaco Bambino - #4 Bamby (Joao)
#11 Opel Ascona 400 - #22 Opel Rekord P1 Ascona - #10 Honda Ascot (Oguerrerob)
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: whcgt on September 02, 2011, 03:08:22 AM: wheel 2.jpg Zodiak Motors/Beau Hickory...Virgo GT 2 in 1, vw based dune buggy....with Empi GT vw 4 0n 130mm 8 spoke wheels. 2 matches GT & VW ;)
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: Wendax on September 02, 2011, 03:34:40 AM: You have identified the right car belonging to wheel #2, but that's not enough for a point. I'll try to explain what I'm after by example:

Let's say you have discovered the wheel belonging to a VW Samba, then you must look for two other wheels either belonging to a car with the same model name (for example Talbot Samba) or a similar name (like Fiat Simba). The triple VW Samba - Talbot Samba - Fiat Simba would bring you the point. But watch out: if you had found the Fiat Simba in our example, you had to look for two cars with names similar to Simba. So you never know whether to look for identical or similar names. ;)
So have a go for Virgo!
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: whcgt on September 02, 2011, 04:11:56 AM: wheel 2.jpg Virgo Dune buggy wheel 29.jpg Virgo 2 Luxe
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: Wendax on September 02, 2011, 04:17:18 AM: Now we are getting somewhere. You found the pair of identical names, now you need to find the odd one, a car with a name similar to virgo. Keep on searching.

For the complete answer I want to know the manufacturer of the Virgo 2 Luxe as Virgo is just a model designation.
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: whcgt on September 02, 2011, 04:31:50 AM: Microcar Virgo 2 Luxe a car company from France....Microcar(1984)...a division of Beneteau group, aquired by Ligier Automobiles in 2008.
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: Wendax on September 02, 2011, 04:36:19 AM: Quote from: whcgt on September 02, 2011, 04:31:50 AM
Microcar Virgo 2 Luxe a car company from France....Microcar(1984)...a division of Beneteau group, aquired by Ligier Automobiles in 2008.
:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: whcgt on September 02, 2011, 06:37:20 AM: wheel 1.jpg: 1973 Buick Riviera
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: Wendax on September 02, 2011, 06:38:47 AM: Yes
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: whcgt on September 02, 2011, 07:17:30 AM: wheel 23.jpg: 1958 Buick roadmaster Riviera.
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: Wendax on September 02, 2011, 07:23:17 AM: Quote from: whcgt on September 02, 2011, 07:17:30 AM
wheel 23.jpg: 1958 Buick roadmaster Riviera.
Sorry, #23 is not a Buick
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: whcgt on September 02, 2011, 08:02:32 AM: wheel 15.jpg: 1975 Amc Matador coupe rally wheel.
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: Wendax on September 02, 2011, 08:09:31 AM: Quote from: whcgt on September 02, 2011, 08:02:32 AM
wheel 15.jpg: 1975 Amc Matador coupe rally wheel.
Correct!

For your information: I won't lock any parts of this puzzle unless I say so. Everyone can use the already identified wheels to find the right combinations.
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: whcgt on September 02, 2011, 08:12:21 AM: wheels 6.jpg: 1940 Custom Ford--El Matador of Bill Cushenberry.
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: Wendax on September 02, 2011, 08:16:52 AM: Quote from: whcgt on September 02, 2011, 08:12:21 AM
wheels 6.jpg: 1940 Custom Ford--El Matador of Bill Cushenberry.
Right again!
A little hint: I regarded "El Matador" just similar to "Matador".
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: whcgt on September 02, 2011, 08:48:40 AM: wheels 25.jpg: Matador Tempo. 1,362 built between 1949 to 1952. Forward control vehicle pic taken at a RAF base in the 1950's in Germany.
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: Wendax on September 02, 2011, 08:51:39 AM: The first triple is found: :applause:
#15 AMC Matador - #25 Tempo Matador - #6 Bill Cushenberry's El Matador

The point will be given when the complete puzzle is solved.
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: whcgt on September 02, 2011, 07:18:34 PM: Is one of the names that is similar to Virgo one of these ??? Fuego or Yugo ???
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: Wendax on September 03, 2011, 02:49:56 PM: Quote from: whcgt on September 02, 2011, 07:18:34 PM
Is one of the names that is similar to Virgo one of these ??? Fuego or Yugo ???
No, try keeping the other syllabel. ;)
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: whcgt on September 03, 2011, 03:50:44 PM: wheel 11.jpg: 1989 Saleen SSC Mustang.
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: hugo90 on September 03, 2011, 05:00:20 PM: 18 Chevrolet NOVA
5 Vauxhall NOVA
21 Lada NIVA

How's that?
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: Wendax on September 03, 2011, 06:19:56 PM: Quote from: whcgt on September 03, 2011, 03:50:44 PM
wheel 11.jpg: 1989 Saleen SSC Mustang.
That's an interesting similarity, but the wheel doesn't belong to any kind of Mustang.
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: Wendax on September 03, 2011, 06:22:29 PM: Quote from: hugo90 on September 03, 2011, 05:00:20 PM
18 Chevrolet NOVA
5 Vauxhall NOVA
21 Lada NIVA

How's that?
That's quite good, except for the fact that #5 is not a Vauxhall Nova wheel. But the other two are correct.
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: Limo on September 04, 2011, 07:45:00 AM: wheel #8 is Citroen Ami6
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: Limo on September 04, 2011, 08:00:58 AM: Whhel#24 is Bugatti Royale?
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: Wendax on September 04, 2011, 09:41:56 AM: Quote from: Limo on September 04, 2011, 07:45:00 AM
wheel #8 is Citroen Ami6
If you happen to mean #9, I can agree. ;)
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: Wendax on September 04, 2011, 09:42:51 AM: Quote from: Limo on September 04, 2011, 08:00:58 AM
Whhel#24 is Bugatti Royale?
Yes
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: gilescooperuk on September 04, 2011, 02:17:00 PM: Wheel 11: Opel Manta GT/E?
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: Limo on September 04, 2011, 03:21:30 PM: oops, yes i mean #9 is Citroen Ami 6
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: Limo on September 04, 2011, 03:30:17 PM: wheel#19 is Panhard PL17
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: Wendax on September 04, 2011, 03:50:46 PM: Quote from: gilescooperuk on September 04, 2011, 02:17:00 PM
Wheel 11: Opel Manta GT/E?
Close but no cigar
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: Wendax on September 04, 2011, 03:55:23 PM: Quote from: Limo on September 04, 2011, 03:30:17 PM
wheel#19 is Panhard PL17
If you happen to mean #20, I can agree. ;)

... and it's a certain type of PL 17.
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: als15 on September 05, 2011, 01:48:52 PM: Wheel 7: Fiat 126 Personal (or later versions).
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: Wendax on September 05, 2011, 03:22:41 PM: Quote from: als15 on September 05, 2011, 01:48:52 PM
Wheel 7: Fiat 126 Personal (or later versions).

It is the Fiat 126 that was called Personal 4 in some countries.
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: Iluvatar on September 06, 2011, 05:22:03 AM: Wheel #5 Ford Kuga.
MPC
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: Wendax on September 06, 2011, 05:44:48 AM: Quote from: Iluvatar on September 06, 2011, 05:22:03 AM
Wheel #5 Ford Kuga.
MPC
Yes
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: whcgt on September 10, 2011, 09:24:53 AM: wheel 3.jpg: 1981 Mercury Cougar XR7.
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: Wendax on September 10, 2011, 09:45:32 AM: Quote from: whcgt on September 10, 2011, 09:24:53 AM
wheel 3.jpg: 1981 Mercury Cougar XR7.
Yes
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: whcgt on September 10, 2011, 10:45:54 AM: To give a more complete answer for a couple of partial answers.....wheel 20.jpg is a Panhard PL17 Tigre(1959-1965)......wheel 7.jpg is called a Normale Personal 4 Fiat 126. :) The Panhard PL17 Tigre may help to complete the cat trilogy of cars.
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: Wendax on September 10, 2011, 12:54:32 PM: Quote from: whcgt on September 10, 2011, 10:45:54 AM
wheel 20.jpg is a Panhard PL17 Tigre(1959-1965)
Yes

Quote from: whcgt on September 10, 2011, 10:45:54 AM
wheel 7.jpg is called a Normale Personal 4 Fiat 126. :)
There was a different name to it in some countries.
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: Wendax on September 12, 2011, 12:00:12 PM: Quote from: whcgt on September 10, 2011, 10:45:54 AM
The Panhard PL17 Tigre may help to complete the cat trilogy of cars.
Just three cats don't make a pairing. Two cars have to have identical model names, the third one is similar.
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: als15 on September 13, 2011, 09:02:45 AM: Quote from: Wendax on September 10, 2011, 12:54:32 PM
Quote from: whcgt on September 10, 2011, 10:45:54 AM
wheel 7.jpg is called a Normale Personal 4 Fiat 126. :)
There was a different name to it in some countries.

It could be the 126 Bambino in Germany or the 126 DeVille in UK... Any Cadillac Deville here?
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: Wendax on September 13, 2011, 09:16:17 AM: Quote from: als15 on September 13, 2011, 09:02:45 AM
It could be the 126 Bambino in Germany or the 126 DeVille in UK...
One of them would be a good path to follow.
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: whcgt on September 13, 2011, 07:15:06 PM: wheels 7.jpg: 1982 Fiat 126 DeVille, from the UK. This was the only year that I could find, that had the strange styling of the front bumper corners..with the same wheel as in your picture.
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: Wendax on September 14, 2011, 02:32:35 AM: I think wheel #7 was pictured in 1977, but that doesn't matter. As I said before, DeVille or Bambino should lead you the way.
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: Wendax on September 21, 2011, 02:43:58 AM: Let the pros join in
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: neilshouse on September 21, 2011, 04:05:53 AM: No. 14 - Vauxhall Royale?
No. 16 - Chrysler Royal 1959
No. 24 - Bugatti Royale
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: Wendax on September 21, 2011, 04:21:23 AM: Quote from: neilshouse on September 21, 2011, 04:05:53 AM
No. 14 - Vauxhall Royale?
No. 16 - Chrysler Royal 1959
No. 24 - Bugatti Royale
That is the correct pairing. #16 and #24 are right, #14 is a ... Royale, but not a Vauxhall, thogh related. Locked until your next reply to find out the marque of #14.
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: neilshouse on September 21, 2011, 04:36:55 AM: It is the Saehan Royale from Korea. A car I never knew existed until now!
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: Wendax on September 21, 2011, 04:41:03 AM: Quote from: neilshouse on September 21, 2011, 04:36:55 AM
It is the Saehan Royale from Korea. A car I never knew existed until now!
You are almost there. The Saehan Royale was renamed in 1983 and became the ...
Still locked.
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: neilshouse on September 21, 2011, 04:44:11 AM: It must be the Daewoo Royale.
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: Wendax on September 21, 2011, 04:48:26 AM: To be precise, the Daewoo Royale XQ. Congratulations.
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: Oguerrerob on September 21, 2011, 07:40:00 AM: 28 -Virgin VR-01
I guess match with #2 Virgo dune buggy - #29 Microcar Virgo - ?
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: Oguerrerob on September 21, 2011, 07:46:23 AM: 17 - Krupp Tiger Truck 1956 8 - Sunbeam MK1 Tiger 1964-66
Matching with #20 Panhard PL17 Tigre - ? - ?
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: Oguerrerob on September 21, 2011, 07:51:32 AM: 26 Isuzu Amigo 1990
Matching with #9 Citroen Ami 6 - ? - ?
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: Oguerrerob on September 21, 2011, 07:53:42 AM: 19 Jagst 770 Riviera 1962 Fiat NSU Neckar
Matching with #1 Buick Riviera - ? - ?
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: Wendax on September 21, 2011, 08:17:09 AM: Quote from: Oguerrerob on September 21, 2011, 07:40:00 AM
28 -Virgin VR-01
I guess match with #2 Virgo dune buggy - #29 Microcar Virgo - ?
Yes, the next triple is found.
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: Wendax on September 21, 2011, 08:19:12 AM: Quote from: Oguerrerob on September 21, 2011, 07:46:23 AM
17 - Krupp Tiger Truck 1956 8 - Sunbeam MK1 Tiger 1964-66
Matching with #20 Panhard PL17 Tigre - ? - ?
Yes, right again.
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: Wendax on September 21, 2011, 08:21:26 AM: Quote from: Oguerrerob on September 21, 2011, 07:51:32 AM
26 Isuzu Amigo 1990
Matching with #9 Citroen Ami 6 - ? - ?
Yes, the third one remains to be discovered.
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: Wendax on September 21, 2011, 08:24:23 AM: Quote from: Oguerrerob on September 21, 2011, 07:53:42 AM
19 Jagst 770 Riviera 1962 Fiat NSU Neckar
Matching with #1 Buick Riviera - ? - ?
Yes
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: Oguerrerob on September 21, 2011, 09:52:00 AM: 27 - Reference Nova
Matching with #18 Chevrolet Nova - ? - #21 Lada Niva
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: Wendax on September 21, 2011, 09:55:34 AM: Right car, wrong maker. This Nova was not built by "Reference".
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: Oguerrerob on September 21, 2011, 09:58:51 AM: Ligier Nova
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: Wendax on September 21, 2011, 10:03:08 AM: Quote from: Oguerrerob on September 21, 2011, 09:58:51 AM
Ligier Nova
Yes, #27 is the Ligier Nova and completes the next triple.
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: João on September 21, 2011, 11:15:15 AM: Number #1 and #19 with number #12 : 1920 ReVere Model A Touring
Number #3 - 1981 Mercury Cougar XR7 and #5 - Ford Kuga with number #23 :1962 Ford Cougar Concept Car
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: Oguerrerob on September 21, 2011, 11:51:56 AM: 30 - Steinwinter Amigo 500 Buggy based on Fiat 500
#9 Citroen Ami 6 - ? - # 26 Isuzu Amigo
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: Wendax on September 21, 2011, 12:21:42 PM: Quote from: João on September 21, 2011, 11:15:15 AM
Number #1 and #19 with number #12 : 1920 ReVere Model A Touring
Yes!

Quote from: João on September 21, 2011, 11:15:15 AM
Number #3 - 1981 Mercury Cougar XR7 and #5 - Ford Kuga with number #23 :1962 Ford Cougar Concept Car
Yes again!

Well done.
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: Wendax on September 21, 2011, 12:27:25 PM: Quote from: Oguerrerob on September 21, 2011, 11:51:56 AM
30 - Steinwinter Amigo 500 Buggy based on Fiat 500
#9 Citroen Ami 6 - ? - # 26 Isuzu Amigo
Right again, except for the fact that the Steinwinter Amigo was based on a Fiat 126. BTW, the Steinwinter Amigo is basically the same car as the Automirage Pick Wick.

Two triples left...
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: Oguerrerob on September 21, 2011, 01:27:08 PM: 4 - Bamby 200cc - 13 - Bambino 200 and 11 Opel Ascona 400
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: Wendax on September 21, 2011, 02:09:18 PM: Quote from: Oguerrerob on September 21, 2011, 01:27:08 PM
4 - Bamby 200cc - 13 - Bambino 200 and 11 Opel Ascona 400
Yes to all three identifications!
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: João on September 21, 2011, 02:11:57 PM: I'll try :

#4 - 1984 Bamby Microcar
#7 - 1976 Fiat 126 Bambino
#13 - 1955 Bambino 200
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: Wendax on September 21, 2011, 02:15:31 PM: Quote from: João on September 21, 2011, 02:11:57 PM
I'll try :

#4 - 1984 Bamby Microcar
#7 - 1976 Fiat 126 Bambino
#13 - 1955 Bambino 200
Simple as that!

One triple left!
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: Oguerrerob on September 21, 2011, 11:13:50 PM: 22 -Opel Rekord P1 Ascona 2 SSc (1958) - 10 - Honda Ascot 1994
match with #11 Opel Ascona 400 - ? - ?
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: Wendax on September 22, 2011, 02:29:33 AM: Quote from: Oguerrerob on September 21, 2011, 11:13:50 PM
22 -Opel Rekord P1 Ascona 2 SSc (1958) - 10 - Honda Ascot 1994
match with #11 Opel Ascona 400 - ? - ?
Yes, well done! The last pairing is found.
Title: Re: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: Wendax on September 22, 2011, 02:33:18 AM: The total:
Oguerrerob: 5 points
Joao: 3 points
neilshouse: 1 point
whcgt: 1 point

Thankyou, gentlemen. I hope you had as much fun as I had.
Title: Re: Solved: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: whcgt on September 22, 2011, 06:09:09 AM: It was fun, I loved it. :)
Title: Re: Solved: Two out of three ain't bad
Post by: Oguerrerob on September 22, 2011, 07:10:09 AM: Yes!! This is what I call FUN!! Existing, traceable, findable. Thank you!!