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Title: Whaddyacallit #292 - Solved! Alvis TA 14 with body by F.J. Bidée
Post by: Ray B. on March 18, 2009, 04:36:01 PM


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Title: Re: Whaddyacallit #292
Post by: Ray B. on March 31, 2009, 04:59:21 AM
:car:
Title: Re: Whaddyacallit #292
Post by: faksta on March 31, 2009, 05:12:00 AM
 :hyper:
But I don't know what it is... The lines are a mix of several cars.
To start with something, I would suppose this car has some Italian mechanicals, but was used in another country.
Title: Re: Whaddyacallit #292
Post by: ImpishGrin on March 31, 2009, 05:25:14 AM
One thing's obvious - it was made 726 years ago.
Title: Re: Whaddyacallit #292
Post by: Ray B. on March 31, 2009, 05:55:25 AM
Quote from: faksta on March 31, 2009, 05:12:00 AM

To start with something, I would suppose this car has some Italian mechanicals, but was used in another country.
Nothing Italian in it to my knowledge.
Title: Re: Whaddyacallit #292
Post by: faksta on March 31, 2009, 07:33:15 AM
Europe? To be more presice, let's begin with France. I can't identify the country by the numberplate, but that seems like it could be the truth...
Title: Re: Whaddyacallit #292
Post by: Ray B. on March 31, 2009, 07:41:43 AM
Neither France nor a french licence plate.
Title: Re: Whaddyacallit #292
Post by: ImpishGrin on March 31, 2009, 07:47:26 AM
Germany?
Title: Re: Whaddyacallit #292
Post by: Ray B. on March 31, 2009, 09:59:55 AM
Not Germany.
Title: Re: Whaddyacallit #292
Post by: faksta on March 31, 2009, 10:33:07 AM
Not to fall into 'gues the country game' again, was it made in the middle-to-the-end of fourties?
Title: Re: Whaddyacallit #292
Post by: Ray B. on March 31, 2009, 11:01:48 AM
Sorry, for once I am not sure of the year. But it seems a good guess.
Title: Re: Whaddyacallit #292
Post by: faksta on March 31, 2009, 11:05:04 AM
Eh..Belgian Jef Lergos had a car called Lergos BMW Special..He raced it in late fourties, AFAIK. Any chance?
Title: Re: Whaddyacallit #292
Post by: faksta on March 31, 2009, 11:38:58 AM
As another guess let's try Swedish CeGe Spl. of Raymond Sjoqvist.
Title: Re: Whaddyacallit #292
Post by: Ray B. on March 31, 2009, 12:39:01 PM
None of these, but I must admit that you're on to something when you mention Belgium.
Title: Re: Whaddyacallit #292
Post by: faksta on March 31, 2009, 01:00:25 PM
Maybe TAFJ - Ford then?
Title: Re: Whaddyacallit #292
Post by: Ray B. on March 31, 2009, 05:31:05 PM
No.
Title: Re: Whaddyacallit #292
Post by: faksta on March 31, 2009, 06:07:43 PM
GRP Marmon? Though I'm not sure it was Belgian.
Title: Re: Whaddyacallit #292
Post by: faksta on April 01, 2009, 02:50:11 AM
If not, then Georges Berger drove car #17 at 1947 GP des Frontieres. That one was an Alvis. Maybe this is the one (something like Alvis Special)?
Title: Re: Whaddyacallit #292
Post by: Ray B. on April 01, 2009, 04:20:21 AM
You do know race cars and racing. An Alvis it is!
I don't know if this is Georges Berger. The car has a special body. The model name and coachbuilder is what we are after.
Title: Re: Whaddyacallit #292
Post by: faksta on April 01, 2009, 06:59:45 AM
Thanks, I'm trying to know racing :)
Alvis TA14 performed by Bidee, Brussels.  :D
Seems to be the car that ran 1949 Le Mans 24h race with a Belgian team of Louis Eggen and Egon Kraft de la Saulx. 1892cc, 4 cyl. ret. after 6 laps. But this picture is not from Le Mans - it carried #32 there.
Title: Re: Whaddyacallit #292
Post by: faksta on April 01, 2009, 07:08:59 AM
Same equipage, 1948 Spa 24h, DNF again. But again another number, this time #30  :(
Title: Re: Whaddyacallit #292
Post by: Ray B. on April 01, 2009, 07:16:55 AM
That's it.
Alvis TA 14 with body by F.J. Bidée of Brussels.
Title: Re: Whaddyacallit #292 - Solved! Alvis TA 14 with body by F.J. Bidée
Post by: Allan L on April 01, 2009, 08:55:55 AM
Would you believe that it is actually better looking than the manufacturer's Sports?
Like this:
(http://i5.ebayimg.com/04/i/001/3c/5b/c253_1.JPG)
Title: Re: Whaddyacallit #292 - Solved! Alvis TA 14 with body by F.J. Bidée
Post by: charlotte on July 05, 2009, 05:42:26 PM
its defenetly from brussels my overgrandfather made it, i think you still can see one of his cars int the car museum in belguim. he was italian so maybe som parts of the car where italian idk.. :-X
Title: Re: Whaddyacallit #292 - Solved! Alvis TA 14 with body by F.J. Bidée
Post by: Paul Jaray on July 06, 2009, 03:34:23 AM
Cool...wellcome to Autopuzzles, Charlotte...
do you have any other pic of this car?
Title: Re: Whaddyacallit #292 - Solved! Alvis TA 14 with body by F.J. Bidée
Post by: faksta on July 06, 2009, 02:47:33 PM
Welcome aboard, Charlotte! I would also like to know anything about your overgrandfather's cars, if possible :)
Title: Re: Whaddyacallit #292 - Solved! Alvis TA 14 with body by F.J. Bidée
Post by: Paul Jaray on July 06, 2009, 02:59:51 PM
Quote from: charlotte on July 05, 2009, 05:42:26 PM
...he was italian so maybe som parts of the car where italian idk.. :-X
I think that design may have influenced (or been influenced by) other specials of that era:
Title: Re: Whaddyacallit #292 - Solved! Alvis TA 14 with body by F.J. Bidée
Post by: DynaMike on July 07, 2009, 08:30:09 AM
I happen to find a picture of this car in "Classic and Sportscar"  from June 1995, page 90. The car has the same shape, the same license plate, but also heavy bumpers, a 'real', curved split windscreen, outside door handles and chrome stoneguards on the rear wings. There's another pic of an Alvis 14 sports with F.J. Bidée body at 1948 Brussels show (the car with a complete cocktail cabinet in its door...).
Title: Re: Whaddyacallit #292
Post by: faksta on July 11, 2009, 11:54:05 AM
Quote from: faksta on April 01, 2009, 06:59:45 AM
Seems to be the car that ran 1949 Le Mans 24h race with a Belgian team of Louis Eggen and Egon Kraft de la Saulx. 1892cc, 4 cyl. ret. after 6 laps.

I guess it'n not the same car, as I have finally found a tiny shot of it at Le Mans, and that one looks way different. Although it might have been rebodied.
Title: Re: Whaddyacallit #292 - Solved! Alvis TA 14 with body by F.J. Bidée
Post by: barrett on July 18, 2011, 01:19:24 PM
Another shot in road-going guise.
This car dates from 1946 and is probably the first of the F.J Bidée bodied cars. It seems 54 chassis were sent to Belgium to be bodied and most of them ended up with Bidée. Does anyone have any evidence of other Belgian Alvis coachwork??
Title: Solved - NEH 5180: Alvis TA14 by F.J. Bidee - 1948
Post by: Carnut on August 14, 2017, 04:40:03 AM
What's this, by whom, from when - for 1 point?:

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Title: Re: NEH 5180
Post by: longtom on August 14, 2017, 07:29:43 AM
It's a vehicle.  If a remember correctly it's an Alvis (it always is when I am not sure)

Was an after war Le Mans racer, albeit not very successful.

So here is may answer:  Alvis TA 14
Title: Re: NEH 5180
Post by: Carnut on August 14, 2017, 09:24:00 AM
It is an Alvis TA 14, yes, so I'll lock it for you until your next reply to answer the other two questions..
Title: Re: NEH 5180
Post by: longtom on August 14, 2017, 10:30:57 AM
Body:  FJ Bidee
Raced between 48 and 49 - so build from 1948.
Title: Re: NEH 5180
Post by: Carnut on August 14, 2017, 11:14:17 AM
Quote from: longtom on August 14, 2017, 10:30:57 AM
Body:  FJ Bidee
Raced between 48 and 49 - so build from 1948.

That's it, yes so another point is yours.
Well done.
Title: Re: Whaddyacallit #292 - Solved! Alvis TA 14 with body by F.J. Bidée
Post by: Wendax on February 17, 2020, 03:38:09 PM
Merged