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Puzzles, Games and Name That Car => Solved AutoPuzzles => 2012 => Topic started by: Allemano on February 09, 2012, 01:39:31 PM
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I'm afraid this will be my last GEO puzzle as it's not easy to find appropriate cars..
In this puzzle again the names of the cars are linked with the names of the places.
As usual one point for each correct match. Only complete answers will win!
Awarding of score will be at the end of the game.
I've tried to make it not too easy and I reckon I was successful... :D
Enjoy!
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Results:
#1 Via (Villamos Autógyár) & O: Via Appia Antica with the Claudius aquaduct Wendax
#2 Balt Vandenberg's Jaffa Sports & E: Tel Aviv-Jaffa/Israel Oguerrerob
#3 Turicum 10/12 hp & D: Zürich Wendax
#4 Jordan Speedboy (Model G) ~1929-1931 & S: River Jordan Tom_I
#5 Ford Phoenix rear-engine prototype & L: Phoenix-See (lake) in Dortmund/Germany Otto Puzzell
#6 ASA Guardian & J: Kings Place, London The Guardian headquarter Wendax
#7 Volta VE1 electric van & Q Volta Lake, Ghana Wendax
#8 Goliath Formel Junior by Willi Zimmermann & F: Goliath rollercoaster at Six Flags, Georgia/USA Wendax
#9 Hagen Elektro-Coupé & N: Hagen city hall Wendax
#10 Ritz cyclecar & P: Ritz Hotel in Paris ftg3plus4
#11 Empire Sabre & C: top of the Empire State Building in New York Tom_I
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#13 Burlington SS & G: Church Street, Burlington, Vermont/Canada Wendax
#14 ~ 1922 S.I.A.M. & M: Bang Pa-in palace complex, Thailand, Ex-Siam Tom_I
#15 Hotchkiss Paris-Nice Cabriolet by Graber & T: Saint Nicolas Church in Nice, France Wendax
#16 Chandler-Cleveland & R: Cleveland Wendax
#17 Volkswagen Race Touareg Qatar & A: Oyster Fountain in Doha/Qatar Wendax
#18 Stanhope & H: Stanhope Castle, Durham/UK Wendax
#19 Parnell BRM V8 & B: Holy Trinity Cathedral of Parnell, Auckland/New Zealand Tom_I
#20 Ford Eifel Sport Cabriolet by Gläser & city of Daun Eifel/GermanyWendax
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Love it! :thumbsup:
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Love it! :thumbsup:
:)
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not my turn :-\
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not my turn :-\
Maybe now? :)
Promoted!
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15 D 1947 Graber bodied Hotchkiss Paris-Nice Cabriolet and Bern, as Graber was in Wichtrach near Bern?
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15 D 1947 Graber bodied Hotchkiss Paris-Nice Cabriolet and Bern, as Graber was in Wichtrach near Bern?
Right car, but wrong place. Sorry!
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10 - Ritz cyclecar
P - Ritz Hotel in London
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10 - Ritz cyclecar
P - Ritz Hotel in London
Sorry, that's close but not correct. Give it another try. Locked until your next reply.
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Oh, I see -- it's the Hotel Ritz in Paris, not the London one.
They look rather alike!
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Oh, I see -- it's the Hotel Ritz in Paris, not the London one.
They look rather alike!
Paris' Ritz is correct!
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Last chance for Experts before professional puzzlers start the slaughter...
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Last chance for Experts before professional puzzlers start the slaughter...
I guess Pros have sharpened their knives...
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#1: 1923 Via (Villamos Autógyár) – O: Via Appia Antica with the Claudius aquaduct
#6: ASA Guardian - J: Kings Place, London, home of The Guardian
#7: Volta VE 1 – Q: Lake Volta in Ghana
#9: Hagen Elektro-Coupé – N: Hagen city hall
#12: Royale Sabre - K: Royal Albert Hall, London
#13: Burlington SS – G: Church Street, Burlington, Vermont
#15: Hotchkiss Paris-Nice Cabriolet Graber - T: Saint Nicolas Church in Nice, France
#18: Stanhope – H: Stanhope Castle, Durham
#20: Ford Eifel Roadster – I: Daun in the Eifel
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#11 is an Empire Sabre, matching C: the Empire State Building in New York.
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#1: 1923 Via (Villamos Autógyár) – O: Via Appia Antica with the Claudius aquaduct
#6: ASA Guardian - J: Kings Place, London, home of The Guardian
#7: Volta VE 1 – Q: Lake Volta in Ghana
#9: Hagen Elektro-Coupé – N: Hagen city hall
#12: Royale Sabre - K: Royal Albert Hall, London
#13: Burlington SS – G: Church Street, Burlington, Vermont
#15: Hotchkiss Paris-Nice Cabriolet Graber - T: Saint Nicolas Church in Nice, France
#18: Stanhope – H: Stanhope Castle, Durham
#20: Ford Eifel Roadster – I: Daun in the Eifel
That was no surprise anymore... ;D
All correct so far, but not entirely right!
I lock it for you to specify some of your guesses:
#12 I have a different company name and a slightly different spelling of the designation.
#20 I need a bit more than that...
#11 is an Empire Sabre, matching C: the Empire State Building in New York.
Correct!
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I think #4 is a Jordan, made in Cleveland, Ohio, which would match picture S: a photo of the River Jordan by Karimeh Abbud, also known as "The Lady Photographer".
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I think #4 is a Jordan, made in Cleveland, Ohio, which would match picture S: a photo of the River Jordan by Karimeh Abbud, also known as "The Lady Photographer".
Very good! Would you please specify your guess about the car? Locked for you until your next reply.
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#20 I need a bit more than that...
Car #20 is a Ford Eifel Sport Cabriolet, body by Gläser, built from 1936 to 1937
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#20 I need a bit more than that...
Car #20 is a Ford Eifel Sport Cabriolet, body by Gläser, built from 1936 to 1937
That's enough for a point!
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#12 I have a different company name and a slightly different spelling of the designation.
On the web it is sometimes called "Royal Saber", but I think "Royale Sabre" is correct:
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I think #4 is a Jordan, made in Cleveland, Ohio, which would match picture S: a photo of the River Jordan by Karimeh Abbud, also known as "The Lady Photographer".
Very good! Would you please specify your guess about the car? Locked for you until your next reply.
To be honest, my guess about the Jordan was based entirely on the pattern of louvres on the side of the bonnet. I had the picture below of a 1929 six-light sedan which seemed to match.
But looking around, that two-tone paint job seems to match the Jordan Eight Speedboy model, also of 1929, and it looks like the dual-cowl phaeton body.
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#12 I have a different company name and a slightly different spelling of the designation.
On the web it is sometimes called "Royal Saber", but I think "Royale Sabre" is correct:
hmmm... I'm afraid this is not the same car, though it's a perfect copy... My car wasn't sold in the UK.
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I think #4 is a Jordan, made in Cleveland, Ohio, which would match picture S: a photo of the River Jordan by Karimeh Abbud, also known as "The Lady Photographer".
Very good! Would you please specify your guess about the car? Locked for you until your next reply.
To be honest, my guess about the Jordan was based entirely on the pattern of louvres on the side of the bonnet. I had the picture below of a 1929 six-light sedan which seemed to match.
But looking around, that two-tone paint job seems to match the Jordan Eight Speedboy model, also of 1929, and it looks like the dual-cowl phaeton body.
I have a quite simple name for that Jordan and a different year. You're welcome to give it another try.
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I think #4 is a Jordan, made in Cleveland, Ohio, which would match picture S: a photo of the River Jordan by Karimeh Abbud, also known as "The Lady Photographer".
Very good! Would you please specify your guess about the car? Locked for you until your next reply.
To be honest, my guess about the Jordan was based entirely on the pattern of louvres on the side of the bonnet. I had the picture below of a 1929 six-light sedan which seemed to match.
But looking around, that two-tone paint job seems to match the Jordan Eight Speedboy model, also of 1929, and it looks like the dual-cowl phaeton body.
I have a quite simple name for that Jordan and a different year. You're welcome to give it another try.
Every time I find a picture that seems to match car #4, it's called a Speedboy, dating from 1929 to 1931. I think it was also known as Model G, but if that's wrong I'll have to give up.
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Is #3 a Cudell Phönix?
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I think #4 is a Jordan, made in Cleveland, Ohio, which would match picture S: a photo of the River Jordan by Karimeh Abbud, also known as "The Lady Photographer".
Very good! Would you please specify your guess about the car? Locked for you until your next reply.
To be honest, my guess about the Jordan was based entirely on the pattern of louvres on the side of the bonnet. I had the picture below of a 1929 six-light sedan which seemed to match.
But looking around, that two-tone paint job seems to match the Jordan Eight Speedboy model, also of 1929, and it looks like the dual-cowl phaeton body.
I have a quite simple name for that Jordan and a different year. You're welcome to give it another try.
Every time I find a picture that seems to match car #4, it's called a Speedboy, dating from 1929 to 1931. I think it was also known as Model G, but if that's wrong I'll have to give up.
Judging your source I guess you know more than me about that car. I had it simply saved as 'Jordan Tourer 1930', but that seems to be incorrect. The lower pic of your last post appears to be the exact puzzle car, so well done, and another point for you! :thumbsup:
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Is #3 a Cudell Phönix?
:shakehead:
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#17: Volkswagen Race Touareg Qatar - A: Oyster Fountain in Doha, Qatar
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#17: Volkswagen Race Touareg Qatar - A: Oyster Fountain in Doha, Qatar
Brilliant!
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Is #3 a Turicum?
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Is #3 a Turicum?
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Not sure whether this was a yes or a no. So I just try:
#3: Turicum 10/12 hp - D: Zürich
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#19: I'm not sure of the correct name for this car. I have seen it referred to as a Parnell BRM V8, but it is currently raced as a 1964 Parnell RP64 (I'm pretty sure it's the same car). In either case it perpetuates the name of the late Reg Parnell, British racing driver and team manager.
This links to place B: Holy Trinity Cathedral in Parnell, a suburb of Auckland, New Zealand.
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Not sure whether this was a yes or a no. So I just try:
#3: Turicum 10/12 hp - D: Zürich
I didn't say yes as I've guessed that you knew that you were on the right path. ;)
"Turicum" is the old Roman settlement what later become the city Zürich. Etymologically it's still easy to see.
Another right pairing!
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#19: I'm not sure of the correct name for this car. I have seen it referred to as a Parnell BRM V8, but it is currently raced as a 1964 Parnell RP64 (I'm pretty sure it's the same car). In either case it perpetuates the name of the late Reg Parnell, British racing driver and team manager.
This links to place B: Holy Trinity Cathedral in Parnell, a suburb of Auckland, New Zealand.
Correct! My source reports that it was equipped with a BRM V8 machine. It was built and a transformed from a rejected Climax RP64 F1 project.
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Not quite sure about this one:
#16: Chandler-Cleveland and R: Cleveland
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Not quite sure about this one:
#16: Chandler-Cleveland and R: Cleveland
Spot on! Another point for you!
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#8: Goliath Formel Junior by Willi Zimmermann - F: Goliath rollercoaster at Six Flags over Georgia
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#12 I have a different company name and a slightly different spelling of the designation.
On the web it is sometimes called "Royal Saber", but I think "Royale Sabre" is correct:
hmmm... I'm afraid this is not the same car, though it's a perfect copy... My car wasn't sold in the UK.
I'm still puzzled about your ID of car #12. It looks absolutely like the Royale Sabre and it is obviously RHD. The Royale Sabre was initially built by the Royale Motor Company, later on by the Vintage Motor Company, which was bought by the Asquith Motor Carriage Company. Meanwhile the European rights were sold to the Dutch company RB Design which sold it as the Empire Sabre. Right now there are attempts to revive the Sabre by ACL Automotive Creation Ltd. as well as by Asquith Mototrs themselves.
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#8: Goliath Formel Junior by Willi Zimmermann - F: Goliath rollercoaster at Six Flags over Georgia
Right you are! Well done! I guessed that would be a harder nut to crack!
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#12 I have a different company name and a slightly different spelling of the designation.
On the web it is sometimes called "Royal Saber", but I think "Royale Sabre" is correct:
hmmm... I'm afraid this is not the same car, though it's a perfect copy... My car wasn't sold in the UK.
I'm still puzzled about your ID of car #12. It looks absolutely like the Royale Sabre and it is obviously RHD. The Royale Sabre was initially built by the Royale Motor Company, later on by the Vintage Motor Company, which was bought by the Asquith Motor Carriage Company. Meanwhile the European rights were sold to the Duch company RB Design which sold it as the Empire Sabre. Right now there are attempts to revive the Sabre by ACL Automotive Creation Ltd. as well as by Asquith Mototrs themselves.
I'm not an experts on cars like that, but my source reports a kind of "badge engineering" regarding this piece of kit.
The trace leads to a not uncommon country for you...
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I'm not an experts on cars like that, but my source reports a kind of "badge engineering" regarding this piece of kit.
The trace leads to a not uncommon country for you...
France?
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Is #2 some kind of Phoenix?
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This is a bit of a guess. I've been trying to match something to Place M, which I think is a drawing of the floating pavilion at the Bang Pa-in palace complex in Thailand, formerly Siam. This complex was the summer palace of the kings of Siam.
I can't find a picture, but there was a car called a S.I.A.M. made in Milan around 1922, which didn't get past the prototype stage. Could that be car #14?
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I'm not an experts on cars like that, but my source reports a kind of "badge engineering" regarding this piece of kit.
The trace leads to a not uncommon country for you...
France?
No, more common. ;D
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This is a bit of a guess. I've been trying to match something to Place M, which I think is a drawing of the floating pavilion at the Bang Pa-in palace complex in Thailand, formerly Siam. This complex was the summer palace of the kings of Siam.
I can't find a picture, but there was a car called a S.I.A.M. made in Milan around 1922, which didn't get past the prototype stage. Could that be car #14?
Indeed, well done! :applause:
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Is #2 some kind of Phoenix?
:shakehead:
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I'm not an experts on cars like that, but my source reports a kind of "badge engineering" regarding this piece of kit.
The trace leads to a not uncommon country for you...
France?
No, more common. ;D
German?
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I'm not an experts on cars like that, but my source reports a kind of "badge engineering" regarding this piece of kit.
The trace leads to a not uncommon country for you...
France?
No, more common. ;D
German?
Yes!
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#5: Phoenix ESV - l: Phönixsee Dortmund
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#5: Phoenix ESV - l: Phönixsee Dortmund
I need a little more info...
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#5: Phoenix ESV - l: Phönixsee Dortmund
I've searched a bit and I guess you're talking about a different car..
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#5: Phoenix ESV - l: Phönixsee Dortmund
I've searched a bit and I guess you're talking about a different car..
I think so too, now. :(
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But #5 is a US car containing "Phoenix" in its name?
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But #5 is a US car containing "Phoenix" in its name?
Absolutely!
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A Ford prototype, wasn't it?
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A Ford prototype, wasn't it?
Yes! Locked for you!
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I could have sworn I had this one saved as a Pinto prototype (with a rear engine), but cannot find proof.
I'll guess Car #5, Ford Pinto mock-up, and Place I might be Pinto, Madrid, Spain.
If not, please unlock
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But #5 is a US car containing "Phoenix" in its name?
Absolutely!
I could have sworn I had this one saved as a Pinto prototype (with a rear engine), but cannot find proof.
I'll guess Car #5, Ford Pinto mock-up, and Place I might be Pinto, Madrid, Spain.
If not, please unlock
???
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D'oh - I thought Phoenix was eliminated.
I'll keep looking, but don't wish to preclude Wendax and others, who have invested so much time in solving these, from taking the point.
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OK - L is Phoenix-See in Dortmund; #5 is the Ford Phoenix, a rear-engine prototype that hinted at the look of the future Pinto
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#12 I have a different company name and a slightly different spelling of the designation.
So this a "XXXXX Royal" from Germany. Is it from a known kitcar brand?
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OK - L is Phoenix-See in Dortmund; #5 is the Ford Phoenix, a rear-engine prototype that hinted at the look of the future Pinto
There we go! :applause:
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#12 I have a different company name and a slightly different spelling of the designation.
So this a "XXXXX Royal" from Germany. Is it from a known kitcar brand?
I get a uncertain feeling about that. Internet provides nought except of the company's name. No pictures, no info – nothing. :(
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D'oh - I thought Phoenix was eliminated.
I'll keep looking, but don't wish to preclude Wendax and others, who have invested so much time in solving these, from taking the point.
Don't bother about it — esp. for Wendax it was another sale! ;D
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Is #E a European location?
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Is #E a European location?
No
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South American?
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South American?
No
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Asia?
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Yes
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The last pair must be #2 and #E. #E is Tel Aviv-Jaffa. Is #2 some kind of Jaffa Special?
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The last pair must be #2 and #E. #E is Tel Aviv-Jaffa. Is #2 some kind of Jaffa Special?
Yes, which one? Locked for you to finish this – apparently again – much too easy group puzzle!
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The last pair must be #2 and #E. #E is Tel Aviv-Jaffa. Is #2 some kind of Jaffa Special?
Yes, which one? Locked for you to finish this – apparently again – much too easy group puzzle!
You may unlock as I didn't find anything so far, and my knowledge and sources about British (I guess) sportscar specials are very limited.
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The last pair must be #2 and #E. #E is Tel Aviv-Jaffa. Is #2 some kind of Jaffa Special?
Yes, which one? Locked for you to finish this – apparently again – much too easy group puzzle!
You may unlock as I didn't find anything so far, and my knowledge and sources about British (I guess) sportscar specials are very limited.
Your wish is my command! Unlocked again!
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The last one is an internet find, so, it should be solvable I think...
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The car is called the "Jaffa _ _ _ _ _ _ "
It appears as the first entry, when googled properly..
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The car is called the "Jaffa _ _ _ _ t _ "
It appears first entry, when googled properly..
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I've found it as Balt Vandenberg Jaffa Sports Baskerville 1970
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I've found it as Balt Vandenberg Jaffa Sports Baskerville 1970
That's it! Did you find it with help of the 'Pegasus'?
So, it's finally solved. I'll tally tomorrow!
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I've found it in old race cars page (There's a lot of 'Cold' AutoPuzzles about old race cars)
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I've found it as Balt Vandenberg Jaffa Sports Baskerville 1970
That's it! Did you find it with help of the 'Pegasus'?
So, it's finally solved. I'll tally tomorrow!
Nonsense! There's still one unsolved car. :shiner:
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About 12 car, this magazine cover shows the Car at the same photo spot (without the roof top). They called Royale Sabre
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I guess it's better to declare this as solved soon. :-\
However I have another name for this car, probably given by the German importeur.
Hard to guarantee the reliabiltiy of my source...
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Was Gerhold Reitmeyer the importer?
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Sorry for the late reply.
I don't have the name of a single person, but of a company.
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Reitmaier's company was called VFI ("Vehikel für Individualisten"). Is that what you are looking for?
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Reitmaier's company was called VFI ("Vehikel für Individualisten"). Is that what you are looking for?
No.
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#12 :Royale BMW327 1990 and #K :Royal Albert Hall( London ) ?
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#12 :Royale BMW327 1990 and #K :Royal Albert Hall( London ) ?
Location is right. Car is wrong.
However when I'm home later I'll declare this puzzle as solved as I'm not able to verify the info my source provides. :-\
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#12: Royale Sabre ?
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About 12 car, this magazine cover shows the Car at the same photo spot (without the roof top). They called Royale Sabre
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Sorry ! ;D
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I don't know if the puzzle is finished ?
#12 :Royale Sabre and #K :Royal Albert Hall( London )
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I don't know if the puzzle is finished ?
#12 :Royale Sabre and #K :Royal Albert Hall( London )
That's definetly the right match, but according to my (unreliable) source the car wasn't clearly identified, yet.
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I'm pretty sure the full name is Vintage Motor Company Ltd Royale Sabre
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I'm pretty sure the full name is Vintage Motor Company Ltd Royale Sabre
For the British car, yes, but my car was sold by some distributor in East Germany under a different name. (at least according to my source!!!)
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I decided to declare this group puzzle as 'almost' finished now and moved it to Solveds.
However I leave that final gap open for someone in the future who can solve this last mystery.
I cannot tell if my source is reliable in that case or not, so let's close it down for now.
The score:
Wendax: (impressive) 12 points
Tom_I: 4 points
Otto Puzzell, Oguerrerob, ftg3plus4: 1 point each
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Thanks a lot, it was much fun. :thumbsup: