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Title: Barrett's #305 - Solved - Georges Bigata's Esgaz V12
Post by: barrett on June 21, 2012, 11:32:55 AM
I don't know much about this car, just the make of the chassis/engine and the man who was behind its creation. Give me that much and you'll get a point.... Perhaps another point if you can provide any more concrete information about it
Title: Re: Barrett's #305
Post by: barrett on July 10, 2012, 10:50:05 AM
Overdue for a move upwards
Title: Re: Barrett's #305
Post by: D-type on July 10, 2012, 02:43:27 PM
Hotchkiss long distance record breaker?
Title: Re: Barrett's #305
Post by: barrett on July 10, 2012, 03:11:55 PM
Not a Hotchkiss, although it is at least partly French
Title: Re: Barrett's #305
Post by: D-type on July 10, 2012, 04:58:13 PM
Hmmm, I wonder

Is the car in Australia?
Title: Re: Barrett's #305
Post by: barrett on July 11, 2012, 06:15:33 AM
Not Australian
Title: Re: Barrett's #305
Post by: barrett on July 17, 2012, 07:09:38 AM
One week on and no further to the truth.... I'm sure a Pro will have the answer
Title: Re: Barrett's #305
Post by: Wendax on July 17, 2012, 07:15:19 AM
Talbot Lago underneath?
Title: Re: Barrett's #305
Post by: barrett on July 17, 2012, 07:21:50 AM
No, it's not based on a French car
Title: Re: Barrett's #305
Post by: Wendax on August 08, 2012, 01:15:37 PM
Italian base?
Title: Re: Barrett's #305
Post by: woodinsight on August 08, 2012, 01:21:08 PM
French engine on a British base?
Title: Re: Barrett's #305
Post by: barrett on August 08, 2012, 02:33:55 PM
The engine's not French, and there are no British bits as far as I know
Title: Re: Barrett's #305
Post by: Wendax on August 09, 2012, 05:05:00 AM
Was the "man behind this creation" French?
Title: Re: Barrett's #305
Post by: Carnut on August 09, 2012, 06:13:41 AM
Is it German?
Title: Re: Barrett's #305
Post by: barrett on August 09, 2012, 02:06:34 PM
Quote from: Wendax on August 09, 2012, 05:05:00 AM
Was the "man behind this creation" French?

Oui!

No German bits as far as I know, Carnut
Title: Re: Barrett's #305
Post by: Wendax on August 09, 2012, 02:08:43 PM
Quote from: Wendax on August 08, 2012, 01:15:37 PM
Italian base?
Title: Re: Barrett's #305
Post by: barrett on August 10, 2012, 07:06:34 AM
oops, no it's not Italian!
Title: Re: Barrett's #305
Post by: woodinsight on August 10, 2012, 11:39:47 AM
American base car?
Title: Re: Barrett's #305
Post by: barrett on August 10, 2012, 02:38:50 PM
Yes!
Title: Re: Barrett's #305
Post by: woodinsight on August 10, 2012, 04:55:01 PM
Duesenberg?
Title: Re: Barrett's #305
Post by: motorcar1 on August 11, 2012, 08:15:29 AM
Do you know if it is from the early 1930's ?
Title: Re: Barrett's #305
Post by: D-type on August 11, 2012, 06:43:59 PM
Mormon Meteor?
Title: Re: Barrett's #305
Post by: barrett on August 12, 2012, 05:51:37 PM
It's not a Dusenberg, but that's not far off....

I'm not sure about the year but I assume it is from the 1930s

It's not the Mormon Meteor!
Title: Re: Barrett's #305
Post by: Wendax on August 13, 2012, 02:20:50 AM
Auburn?
Title: Re: Barrett's #305
Post by: barrett on August 13, 2012, 07:03:34 AM
Quote from: Wendax on August 13, 2012, 02:20:50 AM
Auburn?

Right! I think that warrants a 24hr lock for you to try and find out some more...
Title: Re: Barrett's #305
Post by: motorcar1 on August 13, 2012, 11:03:27 AM
I thought it might be appropriate to add this,
This is through research of the Harris fwd Speedster;

Barbara Buerhig told me that her father, Gordon, was literally directed from Cord and other Chiefs at ACD to participate in the race cars pitside and in all other means.

I have not been to the ACD museum, even though we have exchanged documents of Ben and Gordon, and in my research/reading, have not read about ACD employess being directed to participate.

Just wanted to add what I knew about the subject for histories sake !!!!!

It would not surprise me thusly, if it is one of the ACD cars ?

I would say that it is probably around 1932, to narrow it down a little further.

Do not consider this a guess, as I know the puzzle is locked for Wendax.
John
Title: Re: Barrett's #305
Post by: Wendax on August 13, 2012, 11:58:27 AM
Are we looking for Lucien Bollack?
Title: Re: Barrett's #305
Post by: barrett on August 13, 2012, 02:35:47 PM
Quote from: Wendax on August 13, 2012, 11:58:27 AM
Are we looking for Lucien Bollack?

Not the name I'm looking for. Open to all again.


Motorcar1 - I'm happy to be corrected because my source is a little sketchy and I really don't have many details, but I'm not aware that there is any 'official' ACD involvement in this car. It is to the best of my knowledge an Auburn chassis/engine set-up that has been rebodied by a private individual in France some time in the '30s...
Title: Re: Barrett's #305
Post by: motorcar1 on August 13, 2012, 04:12:12 PM
Barretts,
I always believe in putting back and helping others that have helped me.

If you find out that it was a factory chassis/body that was sent to France, please let me know, as I will pass the info, which I would doubt they have, to the ACD people.

They are always working on filling gaps of the whereabouts of any ACD automobile, gone forever or not.
Cooool car, which reminds me of some of the Auto Union cars of the era.
John
Title: Re: Barrett's #305
Post by: D-type on August 18, 2012, 07:20:31 AM
Lights and no mudguards suggesting a long distance racer.  Not Le Mans - did it race in the Bol d'Or at Montlhery?
Title: Re: Barrett's #305
Post by: SACO on October 09, 2012, 02:41:36 AM
Esgaz Bigata V12 ,6,4 L ( ex Auburn ) by Georges Bigata in 40's for promotion of gaseous fuels ?
Title: Re: Barrett's #305
Post by: barrett on October 09, 2012, 06:53:19 AM
Well, that certainly looks like the same car! That's not the information I have though I am inclined to believe you are correct. My source is quite shaky about the true identity of the car - just the builder's name and engine (Auburn). I wonder if the Ezgaz is a later evolution of the car? Any more information you have about it would be welcome....
Title: Re: Barrett's #305
Post by: SACO on October 09, 2012, 07:34:45 AM
More photos :
Title: Re: Barrett's #305
Post by: barrett on October 09, 2012, 10:06:35 AM
Well, that last photo of the front confirms it's definitely the same car so I'm awarding you a point and calling this solved. Well done!
Title: Re: Barrett's #305 - Solved - Georges Bigata's Esgaz V12
Post by: Otto Puzzell on October 09, 2012, 10:54:59 AM
It is great new indeed that this one is solved. However, in keeping with AutoPuzzles tradition I'm moving it from the News thread to the Solved Puzzles thread.  ;)