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Title: Cars and Dolls #17 - Aloha Wanderwell / Ford Model T
Post by: Otto Puzzell on March 10, 2012, 04:05:44 AM
A fascinating lass from a time long past.

For 1 point, identify this young lady, and a vehicle with which she is most readily associated.    

Partial answers will be answered with 'incomplete', so be sure to answer all parts of the question, if you'd like the point.

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Title: Re: Cars and Dolls #17
Post by: RayTheRat on March 10, 2012, 01:57:32 PM
Sonja Henie, Cord 810?
Title: Re: Cars and Dolls #17
Post by: Otto Puzzell on March 11, 2012, 04:09:57 AM
Not Ms. Henie; not a Cord
Title: Re: Cars and Dolls #17
Post by: billtorrance9999 on March 11, 2012, 06:21:06 PM
Isadora Duncan, Bugatti?
Title: Re: Cars and Dolls #17
Post by: Otto Puzzell on March 12, 2012, 04:05:13 AM
Nope
Title: Re: Cars and Dolls #17
Post by: RayTheRat on March 12, 2012, 10:27:09 PM
Carole Lombard, 1938 Packard Roadster?
Title: Re: Cars and Dolls #17
Post by: Otto Puzzell on March 13, 2012, 04:52:43 AM
No. The lady pictured is not an actress, by trade.
Title: Re: Cars and Dolls #17
Post by: RayTheRat on March 13, 2012, 09:28:41 AM
I spose that with some careful makeup and hairdressing, the woman could be Amelia Earhart who's associated with the Kissel "Gold Bug" Speedster she renamed "the Yellow Peril."  She was a somewhat plain-looking woman (although it's written that she had a physical resemblance to Charles Lindbergh...by coincidence, one of Lindbergh's distant relatives and his salt flats car was a photo customer of mine at one time) and was advised to keep her "gap-toothed mouth shut" when being photographed.  Sorta like the Mona Lisa, maybe.

I'm much better at recognizing cars than faces...much to the chagrin of my children and their spouses.

Title: Re: Cars and Dolls #17
Post by: Otto Puzzell on March 13, 2012, 09:34:12 AM
 I have the same problem ;D

Not Amelia Earhart, but that's closer to correct than any of the previous guesses.
Title: Re: Cars and Dolls #17
Post by: RayTheRat on March 13, 2012, 11:39:15 AM
Is she an American?
Title: Re: Cars and Dolls #17
Post by: Otto Puzzell on March 13, 2012, 11:53:39 AM
Not from the USA.
Title: Re: Cars and Dolls #17
Post by: Otto Puzzell on March 17, 2012, 08:11:51 AM
Up
Title: Re: Cars and Dolls #17
Post by: Otto Puzzell on March 24, 2012, 07:31:42 AM
I think this will be quickly solved by a Pro
Title: Re: Cars and Dolls #17
Post by: Otto Puzzell on March 27, 2012, 04:52:16 AM
This then-young lady was not an actress or scientist who was incidentally involved with a car. She is most well-known for doing something with an automobile.
Title: Re: Cars and Dolls #17
Post by: Ray B. on March 27, 2012, 12:32:54 PM
A race driver?
Title: Re: Cars and Dolls #17
Post by: Otto Puzzell on March 27, 2012, 01:22:14 PM
No, not exactly. But time behind the wheel was a big part of her job.
Title: Re: Cars and Dolls #17
Post by: RayTheRat on March 28, 2012, 12:58:30 PM
Wild guess:  Bertha Benz, who drove herself and sons from Mannheim to Pforzheim in Karl's car.
Title: Re: Cars and Dolls #17
Post by: Otto Puzzell on March 28, 2012, 03:28:27 PM
Quote from: RayTheRat on March 28, 2012, 12:58:30 PM
Wild guess:  Bertha Benz, who drove herself and sons from Mannheim to Pforzheim in Karl's car.

Not her.
Title: Re: Cars and Dolls #17
Post by: Allan L on March 29, 2012, 07:12:20 AM
I did wonder if Mercédès Jellinek looked like that as an adult, but I think she looked more like this which is the only photo I can find:

Title: Re: Cars and Dolls #17
Post by: Carnut on March 29, 2012, 07:29:44 AM
Looks more like a young Bette Davis to me...
Title: Re: Cars and Dolls #17
Post by: Ray B. on March 29, 2012, 08:42:14 AM
 ;)
Title: Re: Cars and Dolls #17
Post by: Otto Puzzell on March 29, 2012, 09:52:04 AM
Quote from: Carnut on March 29, 2012, 07:29:44 AM
Looks more like a young Bette Davis to me...

Quote from: Otto Puzzell on March 27, 2012, 04:52:16 AM
This then-young lady was not an actress or scientist who was incidentally involved with a car. She is most well-known for doing something with an automobile.
Title: Re: Cars and Dolls #17
Post by: RayTheRat on March 31, 2012, 06:34:32 PM
I ran across another possibility: Lilian Roth and Stearns-Knight.
Title: Re: Cars and Dolls #17
Post by: Otto Puzzell on April 01, 2012, 03:41:26 AM
Not Ms. Roth
Title: Re: Cars and Dolls #17
Post by: pnegyesi on April 01, 2012, 03:53:46 AM
Was she an early racer?
Title: Re: Cars and Dolls #17
Post by: Otto Puzzell on April 01, 2012, 03:57:23 AM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on March 27, 2012, 01:22:14 PM
No, not exactly. But time behind the wheel was a big part of her job.
;)
Title: Re: Cars and Dolls #17
Post by: pnegyesi on April 01, 2012, 03:58:33 AM
Sorry, somehow I missed that exchange. Was she a promoter of a car brand?
Title: Re: Cars and Dolls #17
Post by: Otto Puzzell on April 01, 2012, 04:05:45 AM
While this brand of cars was widely used by racers - and by ordinary folks - she was not promoting a racing car.
Title: Re: Cars and Dolls #17
Post by: Ray B. on April 01, 2012, 04:25:37 AM
Was she a German?
Title: Re: Cars and Dolls #17
Post by: Otto Puzzell on April 01, 2012, 05:23:04 AM
No sir
Title: Re: Cars and Dolls #17
Post by: Ray B. on April 01, 2012, 09:13:48 AM
British?
Title: Re: Cars and Dolls #17
Post by: Otto Puzzell on April 01, 2012, 09:26:49 AM
Nope
Title: Re: Cars and Dolls #17
Post by: Ray B. on April 01, 2012, 09:48:33 AM
French?
Title: Re: Cars and Dolls #17
Post by: pnegyesi on April 01, 2012, 10:10:12 AM
Was she a relative of the car brand's director?
Title: Re: Cars and Dolls #17
Post by: Otto Puzzell on April 01, 2012, 01:59:58 PM
Quote from: Ray B. on April 01, 2012, 09:48:33 AM
French?

No sir
Title: Re: Cars and Dolls #17
Post by: Otto Puzzell on April 01, 2012, 02:00:37 PM
Quote from: pnegyesi on April 01, 2012, 10:10:12 AM
Was she a relative of the car brand's director?

No sir
Title: Re: Cars and Dolls #17
Post by: RayTheRat on April 02, 2012, 07:59:37 PM
I don't know why I keep beating my head on this one, but let's try Alice H. Ramsey who, in 1909, drove a 30 HP Maxwell from New York to San Francisco.  She was 22 years old at the time.

Photo courtesy of Wikimedia Commons.
Title: Re: Cars and Dolls #17
Post by: Otto Puzzell on April 03, 2012, 04:28:09 AM
It sure doesn't look like her. Because it isn't.

Her automotive exploits are, however, closer to those of the puzzle girl, than some of the other guesses.
Title: Re: Cars and Dolls #17
Post by: Ray B. on April 03, 2012, 05:23:02 AM
Not from the USA
Not from the UK
Not from Germany
Not from France

Italy?
Title: Re: Cars and Dolls #17
Post by: Otto Puzzell on April 03, 2012, 05:55:16 AM
Getting colder. Not from Italy.
Title: Re: Cars and Dolls #17
Post by: Ray B. on April 03, 2012, 09:01:31 AM
Two last geographical guesses then I try more intelligent ways.
Canada?
Title: Re: Cars and Dolls #17
Post by: Otto Puzzell on April 03, 2012, 09:42:06 AM
Clever lad!

Canada is correct.
Title: Re: Cars and Dolls #17
Post by: RayTheRat on April 03, 2012, 10:28:48 AM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on April 03, 2012, 04:28:09 AM
It sure doesn't look like her. Because it isn't.

I suppose that might explain it.  :)  Like I said, I can recognize cars easier than faces.  And I spose I'm not smart enough to know when to give up.

Let's try a Canadian-born woman racer (I know you said she wasn't a racer, but....), Kay Petre (Kathleen Coad Defries) who was associated with several cars, Wolseley Hornet, 2-litre Bugatti, a Riley and an Austin 7.  But I spose the most significant car would be the ex-John Cobb 1924 Delage 10.5 litre V12 that she drove at Brooklands, averaging almost 135 mph in a "duel" with Gwenda Stewart.  Kay lost the contest when Gwenda ran almost 136 in a Derby-Miller special.

This photo shows a woman who looks a lot more like the original (at least to someone with my limited facial recognition ability):

Title: Re: Cars and Dolls #17
Post by: Otto Puzzell on April 03, 2012, 11:59:51 AM
Quote from: Ray B. on March 27, 2012, 12:32:54 PM
A race driver?

Quote from: Otto Puzzell on March 27, 2012, 01:22:14 PM
No, not exactly. But time behind the wheel was a big part of her job.

So, no, she was not a racer.
Title: Re: Cars and Dolls #17
Post by: pnegyesi on April 03, 2012, 12:01:39 PM
Was she promoting driving, driving by women?
Title: Re: Cars and Dolls #17
Post by: Otto Puzzell on April 03, 2012, 12:46:32 PM
That may have been a side effect, but was not her motivation.
Title: Re: Cars and Dolls #17
Post by: Ray B. on April 03, 2012, 05:35:41 PM
Did she flew airplanes too?
Title: Re: Cars and Dolls #17
Post by: Otto Puzzell on April 03, 2012, 07:49:20 PM
Not that I know of
Title: Re: Cars and Dolls #17
Post by: neilshouse on April 06, 2012, 09:05:41 AM
Aloha Wanderwell? Ford Model T?
Title: Re: Cars and Dolls #17
Post by: Otto Puzzell on April 06, 2012, 11:18:43 AM
Ta-da!

That wasn't so hard, now was it?  :)
Title: Re: Cars and Dolls #17
Post by: RayTheRat on April 06, 2012, 12:22:20 PM
WHO???  I'm glad to see an answer to this so I don't keep wasting brain cells (I killed too many of 'em in my misspent youth...and on and on) but I've never heard of her...and no wonder (or wander.)  She was known by at least 4 names during her lifetime...some due to marriage, others as "stage names" for lack of a better term. 

Very interesting person, very stimulating puzzle. 

RtR
Title: Re: Cars and Dolls #17 - Aloha Wanderwell / Ford Model T
Post by: Otto Puzzell on April 06, 2012, 12:31:31 PM
Her husband, and his expeditions, were the subject of a previous puzzle here. I was surprised it took as long as it did to put this one to bed.

I may add some of her filmed exploits to a future AutoPuzzles Drive In installment. 
Title: Re: Cars and Dolls #17 - Aloha Wanderwell / Ford Model T
Post by: Ray B. on April 07, 2012, 04:26:11 AM
I easily found the website dedicated to Aloha, thanks to neilshouse.
Some woman!