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Title: Hanomag Rekord 1,5 Liter Motorsport-Coupé, 1938
Post by: grobmotorix on June 07, 2012, 05:19:57 AM
Who knows this car?

Title: Re: grob 2012_06_07 (05)
Post by: grobmotorix on June 19, 2012, 04:45:04 PM
Up one step.
Title: Re: grob 2012_06_07 (05)
Post by: grobmotorix on June 21, 2012, 03:15:06 PM
Nothing to say about this one?
Title: Re: grob 2012_06_07 (05)
Post by: RayTheRat on June 21, 2012, 04:06:06 PM
Fiat based?
Title: Re: grob 2012_06_07 (05)
Post by: grobmotorix on June 21, 2012, 04:15:54 PM
It´s not italian at all, sorry.
Title: Re: grob 2012_06_07 (05)
Post by: RayTheRat on June 21, 2012, 04:17:44 PM
French?
Title: Re: grob 2012_06_07 (05)
Post by: grobmotorix on July 13, 2012, 06:42:01 AM
Not french.

I´ll promote this one to the pros.
Title: Re: grob 2012_06_07 (05)
Post by: barrett on July 13, 2012, 07:18:58 AM
Czech?
Title: Re: grob 2012_06_07 (05)
Post by: grobmotorix on July 13, 2012, 07:29:35 AM
No.
Title: Re: grob 2012_06_07 (05)
Post by: RayTheRat on July 13, 2012, 10:00:44 AM
Shall I ask? An Austrian one-off?   ;)
Title: Re: grob 2012_06_07 (05)
Post by: grobmotorix on July 13, 2012, 10:37:55 AM
In this case I must say: NO!   :D
Title: Re: grob 2012_06_07 (05)
Post by: Allemano on July 13, 2012, 12:00:52 PM
Austrian non one-off?
Title: Re: grob 2012_06_07 (05)
Post by: grobmotorix on July 13, 2012, 01:01:18 PM
It is not from Austria and I think there were more than this one.
Title: Re: grob 2012_06_07 (05)
Post by: faksta on July 13, 2012, 01:02:48 PM
Switzerland?
Title: Re: grob 2012_06_07 (05)
Post by: grobmotorix on July 13, 2012, 01:09:59 PM
Not swiss.

At this event there attended at least 5 different racing coupe´s and even one convertible version.
Title: Re: grob 2012_06_07 (05)
Post by: faksta on July 13, 2012, 01:13:27 PM
So it was a factory effort?
Title: Re: grob 2012_06_07 (05)
Post by: RayTheRat on July 13, 2012, 01:16:00 PM
The darned thing has a resemblance to a teardrop Talbot-Lago.  So.....based on a perusal of my reference files, I'll ask if it's a 1939 Talbot-Lago T150 C SS Aerocoupe 330 by Pourtout?
Title: Re: grob 2012_06_07 (05)
Post by: grobmotorix on July 13, 2012, 01:22:14 PM
QuoteSo it was a factory effort?

Yes.

QuoteThe darned thing has a resemblance to a teardrop Talbot-Lago.

But it is not even french...
Title: Re: grob 2012_06_07 (05)
Post by: RayTheRat on July 13, 2012, 01:25:03 PM
 :bag:  Oops!
Title: Re: grob 2012_06_07 (05)
Post by: grobmotorix on July 13, 2012, 01:26:56 PM
I´ve never seen this in my life before, too.

No need to hide Ray! ;)
Title: Re: grob 2012_06_07 (05)
Post by: faksta on July 13, 2012, 01:28:50 PM
German, pre-war?
Title: Re: grob 2012_06_07 (05)
Post by: grobmotorix on July 13, 2012, 01:30:16 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: grob 2012_06_07 (05)
Post by: pnegyesi on July 13, 2012, 01:43:19 PM
Is it a Stoewer?
Title: Re: grob 2012_06_07 (05)
Post by: neilshouse on July 13, 2012, 01:49:51 PM
Wanderer?
Title: Re: grob 2012_06_07 (05)
Post by: grobmotorix on July 13, 2012, 01:52:55 PM
QuoteStoewer?

No


Quote
Wanderer?

No.

But the make is quite known and not too exotic - carry on!
Title: Re: grob 2012_06_07 (05)
Post by: faksta on July 13, 2012, 01:58:05 PM
Hanomag?
Title: Re: grob 2012_06_07 (05)
Post by: RayTheRat on July 13, 2012, 02:00:42 PM
Opel-based?
Title: Re: grob 2012_06_07 (05)
Post by: grobmotorix on July 13, 2012, 02:05:54 PM
LOCKED for FAKSTA!

It is a Hanomag.
Title: Re: LOCKED for Faksta: grob 2012_06_07 (05)
Post by: faksta on July 13, 2012, 02:29:43 PM
Maybe a diesel Hanomag Rekord and Anne-Cecile Rose-Itier at the 1937 Rallye du Maroc (1937 Maroc car was an open top, it seems) 1939 Rallye Monte Carlo?
Title: Re: LOCKED for Faksta: grob 2012_06_07 (05)
Post by: grobmotorix on July 13, 2012, 02:34:06 PM
I do not think it´s a diesel, but it most probably is a Hanomag Rekord.

Give me the right engine cacity and you´ve got the point.

(it is not the Rallye Maroc car)
Title: Re: LOCKED for Faksta: grob 2012_06_07 (05)
Post by: faksta on July 13, 2012, 02:43:02 PM
Well, if it's a rally Monte Carlo from 1939, then it may indeed be a diesel car, according to various sources (can't guarantee the didn't take info from each other, though). Hanomag Rekord Diesel had an engine capacity of 1910cc.
Title: Re: LOCKED for Faksta: grob 2012_06_07 (05)
Post by: grobmotorix on July 13, 2012, 02:44:09 PM
It´s not a Rally Monte Carlo car.
This is why I said it was no diesel.

The engine did not have 1,9 liter , but...?
Title: Re: LOCKED for Faksta: grob 2012_06_07 (05)
Post by: faksta on July 13, 2012, 02:49:11 PM
...1,5 liter? Otherwise, feel free to unlock it for all, as I'm just guessing now.
Title: Re: LOCKED for Faksta: grob 2012_06_07 (05)
Post by: grobmotorix on July 13, 2012, 02:53:12 PM
You´ve finally equalled my points and I´m sure you will overtake me soon!
Title: Re: LOCKED for Faksta: grob 2012_06_07 (05)
Post by: faksta on July 13, 2012, 02:53:54 PM
I know! I know! I know!

Must be a 1931 Coupe Internationale des Alpes, Lilian Roehrs?
Title: Re: LOCKED for Faksta: grob 2012_06_07 (05)
Post by: faksta on July 13, 2012, 02:54:42 PM
Quote from: grobmotorix on July 13, 2012, 02:53:12 PM
You´ve finally equalled my points and I´m sure you will overtake me soon!

Oh, indeed :P Thanks! :)
Title: Re: Hanomag Rekord 1,5 Liter Motorsport-Coupé
Post by: grobmotorix on July 13, 2012, 02:57:28 PM
I´ve given you the point immediately after your 1,5 liter guess. I´ve heard all the facts I´ve wanted to hear. And it is a 1938 car...
Title: Re: Hanomag Rekord 1,5 Liter Motorsport-Coupé, 1938
Post by: faksta on July 13, 2012, 03:00:43 PM
Do you have the info about what race it is then?
Title: Re: Hanomag Rekord 1,5 Liter Motorsport-Coupé, 1938
Post by: grobmotorix on July 13, 2012, 03:02:47 PM
Alpenfahrt 1938 ;)

By the way: there was a 2250ccm version, too!

Title: Re: Hanomag Rekord 1,5 Liter Motorsport-Coupé, 1938
Post by: sixtee5cuda on July 13, 2012, 03:04:06 PM
It isn't easy to find information about 1938 Hanomags.

Is it actually a 1.5 liter?  Hanomag ruled the 1.1 liter class during the 1930's.
Title: Re: Hanomag Rekord 1,5 Liter Motorsport-Coupé, 1938
Post by: grobmotorix on July 13, 2012, 03:07:28 PM
The puzzle car and another Hanomag coupé with a different starting number were listed as 1498ccm cars.

The second car in my last post and another one was listed as 2250ccm cars.
Title: Re: Hanomag Rekord 1,5 Liter Motorsport-Coupé, 1938
Post by: faksta on July 13, 2012, 03:08:34 PM
Quote from: sixtee5cuda on July 13, 2012, 03:04:06 PM
It isn't easy to find information about 1938 Hanomags.

Especially for a rally dumb like me :P
Title: Re: Hanomag Rekord 1,5 Liter Motorsport-Coupé, 1938
Post by: grobmotorix on July 13, 2012, 03:14:51 PM
Here are the listings of the Hanomag works teams in the 1500 and 2250ccm class (the puzzle car was #154):
Title: Re: Hanomag Rekord 1,5 Liter Motorsport-Coupé, 1938
Post by: grobmotorix on October 31, 2012, 03:41:57 PM
And another photo:
Title: Re: Hanomag Rekord 1,5 Liter Motorsport-Coupé, 1938
Post by: Wendax on May 12, 2017, 04:26:36 PM
Another picture of the bigger engined Sturm Sportlimousine:
Title: Re: Hanomag Rekord 1,5 Liter Motorsport-Coupé, 1938
Post by: grobmotorix on May 12, 2017, 04:48:24 PM
 :thumbsup:

And one more:
Title: Re: Hanomag Rekord 1,5 Liter Motorsport-Coupé, 1938
Post by: pnegyesi on May 13, 2017, 11:59:50 AM
A couple years ago a couple hundred Carl Zapletal (sometimes referred to as Karl Zapletal) glass plate negatives were unearthed in Vienna. Beyond that only a few original photos appear, though he must have made thousands of pictures - he was at all Austrian and most of the Hungarian races from the 1920s to the 2nd WW
Title: Re: Hanomag Rekord 1,5 Liter Motorsport-Coupé, 1938
Post by: grobmotorix on May 13, 2017, 01:31:57 PM
I guess I have a couple of hundreds of Zapletal photos or better magazine scans on my HDD, too:
Title: Re: Hanomag Rekord 1,5 Liter Motorsport-Coupé, 1938
Post by: pnegyesi on May 13, 2017, 11:59:14 PM
yes, you can find online a good selection of his pictures in scanned magazines. However as a researcher I focus on the original negatives /photos. And that's a totally different thing
Title: Re: Hanomag Rekord 1,5 Liter Motorsport-Coupé, 1938
Post by: grobmotorix on May 14, 2017, 08:42:24 AM
Agreed...
Title: Re: Hanomag Rekord 1,5 Liter Motorsport-Coupé, 1938
Post by: Wendax on February 17, 2018, 09:49:24 AM
Rear view:
Title: Re: Hanomag Rekord 1,5 Liter Motorsport-Coupé, 1938
Post by: Wendax on August 30, 2024, 04:04:36 PM
Quote from: pnegyesi on May 13, 2017, 11:59:50 AM
A couple years ago a couple hundred Carl Zapletal (sometimes referred to as Karl Zapletal) glass plate negatives were unearthed in Vienna. Beyond that only a few original photos appear, though he must have made thousands of pictures - he was at all Austrian and most of the Hungarian races from the 1920s to the 2nd WW

When I looked out of the tram window these days I discovered the still existing Zapletal shop sign in Vienna. Nowadays the facilities are used by a restaurant.