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Title: Nielsen, a danish one-off, homebuilt ca. 1905-1925
Post by: grobmotorix on February 09, 2012, 11:26:47 AM
Who knows this car?
Title: Re: grob 2012_02_09 (03)
Post by: grobmotorix on February 17, 2012, 12:46:02 PM
Up!
Title: Re: grob 2012_02_09 (03)
Post by: grobmotorix on March 06, 2012, 12:33:43 PM
Up again!
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Post by: sixtee5cuda on May 01, 2012, 09:55:49 AM
1902 Lohner Mixte hybrid gas-electric, with Ferdinand Porsche next to it.

(aka Lohner-Porsche)

(The year may be off)
Title: Re: grob 2012_02_09 (03)
Post by: grobmotorix on May 01, 2012, 01:34:52 PM
No, not Porsche or Lohner.
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Post by: sixtee5cuda on May 01, 2012, 03:43:50 PM
Hmmm.  I didn't think it could be Henri Pieper, who got a hybrid-electric auto patent in the early 1900's...

It could be Knight Neftal's race car, but I cannot find any pictures of that one.
Title: Re: grob 2012_02_09 (03)
Post by: Wendax on May 01, 2012, 03:51:31 PM
German?
Title: Re: grob 2012_02_09 (03)
Post by: grobmotorix on May 02, 2012, 02:58:39 AM
Not German, and I think I´ve got a different name/builder for this one.

I´ll check it when I´ll be back home.
Title: Re: grob 2012_02_09 (03)
Post by: Wendax on May 04, 2012, 11:53:27 AM
French?
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Post by: grobmotorix on May 04, 2012, 03:08:30 PM
No.
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Post by: Wendax on May 04, 2012, 03:13:05 PM
Scandinavian?
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Post by: grobmotorix on May 04, 2012, 04:33:31 PM
Yes.
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Post by: Wendax on May 04, 2012, 04:49:44 PM
From Sweden?
Title: Re: grob 2012_02_09 (03)
Post by: grobmotorix on May 04, 2012, 06:44:24 PM
No.
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Post by: Wendax on May 05, 2012, 01:10:25 AM
From Denmark?
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Post by: grobmotorix on May 05, 2012, 03:25:18 AM
Here we are!
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Post by: Wendax on May 05, 2012, 06:05:38 AM
Ellemobil?
Title: Re: grob 2012_02_09 (03)
Post by: grobmotorix on May 05, 2012, 06:14:47 AM
It was not built by Jacob Ellehammer...
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Post by: Wendax on May 05, 2012, 06:23:36 AM
Brems?
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Post by: Allemano on May 05, 2012, 06:31:15 AM
Dansk by Hans C. Christiansen?
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Post by: grobmotorix on May 05, 2012, 08:08:03 AM
No and no.
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Post by: Allemano on May 05, 2012, 08:08:53 AM
Jaeger?
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Post by: grobmotorix on May 05, 2012, 10:25:47 AM
No, sorry.
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Post by: Allemano on May 05, 2012, 10:28:55 AM
pre WWI?
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Post by: grobmotorix on May 05, 2012, 11:33:33 AM
I have no year and my source does not tell a date, too.
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Post by: Allemano on May 05, 2012, 11:37:27 AM
Maybe Gorm?
Title: Re: grob 2012_02_09 (03)
Post by: grobmotorix on May 05, 2012, 01:10:03 PM
I´ve learned many new names about danish cars now, but I haven´t heard the right one, yet... :D
Title: Re: grob 2012_02_09 (03)
Post by: Wendax on May 05, 2012, 03:18:29 PM
I still have some on my list.  ;D

How about Mortensen?
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Post by: grobmotorix on May 05, 2012, 04:11:39 PM
No.
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Post by: Wendax on May 05, 2012, 04:16:03 PM
Kraghave?
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Post by: grobmotorix on May 05, 2012, 06:06:01 PM
No. :-\
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Post by: Wendax on May 06, 2012, 01:14:50 AM
Jens & Petersen?
Title: Re: grob 2012_02_09 (03)
Post by: grobmotorix on May 06, 2012, 01:44:20 AM
Neither Jens nor Petersen, sorry.

But I can assure you, that you will find it soon - it is a very common scandinavian name... ;D
Title: Re: grob 2012_02_09 (03)
Post by: Wendax on May 06, 2012, 01:51:39 AM
Jacobsen?
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Post by: grobmotorix on May 06, 2012, 02:25:35 AM
No.
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Post by: Allan L on May 06, 2012, 07:45:50 AM
Clausager?
;D
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Post by: grobmotorix on May 06, 2012, 08:19:38 AM
Not him, too.
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Post by: Allemano on May 06, 2012, 08:26:37 AM
'Forward' from Paul Christensen?
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Post by: grobmotorix on May 06, 2012, 09:23:52 AM
No.
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Post by: Wendax on May 06, 2012, 09:25:18 AM
Larsen?
Title: Re: grob 2012_02_09 (03)
Post by: grobmotorix on May 06, 2012, 11:03:15 AM
No, but go on this way...
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Post by: Wendax on May 06, 2012, 11:04:32 AM
Hansen?
Title: Re: grob 2012_02_09 (03)
Post by: grobmotorix on May 06, 2012, 11:17:24 AM
He is a "-sen", yes.  :D
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Post by: Wendax on May 06, 2012, 11:24:06 AM
Nielsen?
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Post by: Allemano on May 06, 2012, 11:34:36 AM
Hans-Christian Frederiksen? (the company's name was Anglo-Dane)
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Post by: grobmotorix on May 06, 2012, 11:53:42 AM
One point goes to Wendax.
He was the first with the Denmark guess and had the right name.

It´s a one-off and homebuilt car, done by a danish blacksmith named Nielsen and in 1960 when this essay was published noone did know more, no date etc.

Does any member know more, now that we all have the name?

EDIT: I´ve translated the text to my best means for all non german speakers:

Experts in Denmark have started to explore the veteran piece by piece, which may be the eldest car ever built in Denmark.
A Blacksmith called Nielsen is said to have constructed the vehicle many years ago.
The exact date is unknown.

Most of its parts are handbuilt: the upper photo shows the one-cylinder engine with the ventilator.
In the middle you can see the indestructible gem in its whole beauty.
And the wheel at the bottom is a predecessor of the "Schwingfelge"
(GROB: a 1950´s german invention of a special type of rim with a rubber suspension-ring
between the outer rim and the inner rim/hub, which was used on some VW Beetles and Porsche 356´s then).

Please take a closer look on the coil springs between the axle and the wheel hub.
(GROB: I think it was just another experimental way to suspend the car (no brakes I think), like the steel "tyres".
Those were quite common in Germany and other countries without tropical colonies due to rubber blockades in WW I.)



Title: Re: Nielsen, a danish one-off, homebuilt ca. 1905-1925
Post by: Wendax on May 06, 2012, 12:28:17 PM
Now I know why the picture looked so familiar. Old cars are a nice hobby.  ;D
Title: Re: Nielsen, a danish one-off, homebuilt ca. 1905-1925
Post by: grobmotorix on May 06, 2012, 03:10:33 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: Nielsen, a danish one-off, homebuilt ca. 1905-1925
Post by: sixtee5cuda on May 06, 2012, 09:17:24 PM
I had a translator friend look at the text next to the car.  The items within the hub of the wheel are both drum brake, and box-spring-based suspension.
Title: Re: Nielsen, a danish one-off, homebuilt ca. 1905-1925
Post by: Allan L on May 07, 2012, 03:55:42 AM
Quote from: sixtee5cuda on May 06, 2012, 09:17:24 PM
I had a translator friend look at the text next to the car.  The items within the hub of the wheel are both drum brake, and box-spring-based suspension.
Er, I don't think there's any brake in the wheel that's separately shown (which the text describes) and there's no reference to one.
It just refers to the springs between axle and wheel hub.
Title: Re: Nielsen, a danish one-off, homebuilt ca. 1905-1925
Post by: grobmotorix on May 07, 2012, 04:58:36 AM
EDIT: I´ve translated the text of the Scan.