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Title: Puzzle #194 - Solved 1955 Úttörô
Post by: Otto Puzzell on January 26, 2007, 04:29:36 AM
Know what it is?

Please, respond below and let us know the make and model designation of the car posted here.

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Title: Re: Puzzle #194
Post by: Allan L on January 26, 2007, 04:41:35 AM
We used to have things like that here, but as it's left-handed can it be one of yours?
Title: Re: Puzzle #194
Post by: Otto Puzzell on January 26, 2007, 04:49:47 AM
If by "yours", you mean "US-built", the answer is no.
Title: Re: Puzzle #194
Post by: Allan L on January 26, 2007, 05:07:21 AM
Quote from: KarnUtz on January 26, 2007, 04:49:47 AM
If by "yours", you mean "US-built", the answer is no.
I did.
Background people and buildings looked US, but the little beast could come from anywhere of course.
Title: Re: Puzzle #194
Post by: shamrock on January 26, 2007, 05:29:02 AM
How about a De Rovin /
Title: Re: Puzzle #194
Post by: Otto Puzzell on January 26, 2007, 05:38:41 AM
Not one of those.
Title: Re: Puzzle #194
Post by: shamrock on January 26, 2007, 05:26:48 PM
looking at the windscreen it could be a variant on the biscutier.
Title: Re: Puzzle #194
Post by: MG on January 26, 2007, 05:31:40 PM
Judging by the diameter of the steering wheel, I am guessing that power steering was NOT one of the features of this beast.

By GOD that is ugly!      :yuck:
Title: Re: Puzzle #194
Post by: D-type on January 26, 2007, 06:15:09 PM
The size of the wheels suggests it could be a Bond
Title: Re: Puzzle #194
Post by: Allan L on January 26, 2007, 06:33:58 PM
Quote from: D-type on January 26, 2007, 06:15:09 PM
The size of the wheels suggests it could be a Bond
Or a wheelbarrow.
Title: Re: Puzzle #194
Post by: Otto Puzzell on January 27, 2007, 02:31:41 AM
None of the above.
Title: Re: Puzzle #194
Post by: erbas on February 21, 2007, 01:41:59 PM
Úttörô
Title: Re: Puzzle #194
Post by: Ultra on February 21, 2007, 01:49:58 PM
Quote from: erbas on February 21, 2007, 01:41:59 PM
Úttörô

:applause:

The Úttörô [Pioneer] was one of the best publicised privately-built microcar. It was designed by János Schadek in Debrecen, east Hungary in 1954. He was a mechanical engineer. While studying at the University he built his first touring car between 1922 and 1927 and in 1930 a Morgan-like tricar. Then he took over the wire-making factory of his father-in-law. After the War he tried to avoid nationalization, but he couldn't and eventually all the small factories of Debrecen were united into the Locksmith and Iron-founder Company. Schadek became the chief engineer.

(http://www.theautochannel.com/media/photos/mikro/mikro6.jpg)

He decided to design a two-seater small car. He had some conversations with two locksmiths János Puskás and István Schwanner. Both of them had repaired and assembled airplanes previously. The three experienced men built the Úttörô from scratch.

The car was powered by a Csepel 250 cc motorbike engine, placed on the rear axle. Instead of having a starter, a "kick start" was used. The gear was taken from a motorbike. The small wheels were taken from a barrow. The steering shaft was directly connected to the front axle. This meant a very rude and sensitive driving so it was replaced by rack and pinion steering. The car reached a maximum speed of 80 km/h. It was examined by the Hungarian Research Institute of Automobile Transport in the spring of 1955. After that they sent it back to Debrecen. It was finally sent to Székesfehérvár.

(http://www.theautochannel.com/media/photos/mikro/mikro8.jpg)
Title: Solved - NEH 1878: Úttörő - Hungarian microcar
Post by: Carnut on June 27, 2012, 07:09:13 AM
1 point for the correct identification of this little car:

ANYONE FOUND GIVING ANSWERS GLEANED BY USING GOOGLE SEARCH BY IMAGE WILL BE BANNED FOR AN INDEFINITE PERIOD!
Title: Re: NEH 1878
Post by: Ray B. on June 27, 2012, 08:33:14 AM
Not a very well-known car, yes, but one that falls in the category "I can't believe that it hasn't been puzzled yet"...
Title: Re: NEH 1878
Post by: Paul Jaray on June 27, 2012, 10:53:14 AM
Quote from: Ray B. on June 27, 2012, 08:33:14 AM
Not a very well-known car, yes, but one that falls in the category "I can't believe that it hasn't been puzzled yet"...
I'd say utterly obscure car...
Title: Re: NEH 1878
Post by: Otto Puzzell on June 27, 2012, 10:55:41 AM
I'm sure I posted it as a puzzle, long ago. But I can't find it. It does appear within AutoPuzzles, in a non-puzzle post.
Title: Re: NEH 1878
Post by: Otto Puzzell on June 27, 2012, 11:01:55 AM
Found it. I think I may have the name misspelled on the old puzzle.

Let's see how it plays out.
Title: Re: NEH 1878
Post by: JonathanPoll on June 28, 2012, 03:50:57 PM
I'm pretty sure that's french...
Title: Re: NEH 1878
Post by: Carnut on June 29, 2012, 04:27:14 AM
Quote from: JonathanPoll on June 28, 2012, 03:50:57 PM
I'm pretty sure that's french...

Welcome to AutoPuzzles, where things are rarely quite what they might seem to be...
Sorry but it isn't French..
Title: Re: NEH 1878
Post by: JonathanPoll on June 29, 2012, 04:42:18 AM
Could it be argentinian? Looks similar to the De Carlo minicar...
<<< link removed >>>
Edit: Well, sort of similar ;)
Title: Re: NEH 1878
Post by: Otto Puzzell on June 29, 2012, 04:52:34 AM
Quote from: JonathanPoll on June 29, 2012, 04:42:18 AM
Could it be argentinian? Looks similar to the De Carlo minicar...
<<< link removed >>>
Edit: Well, sort of similar ;)

Jonathan: links to other sites are not allowed in the puzzle threads, per the AutoPuzzles rulebook:

http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=6857.0

This is your first warning.
Title: Re: NEH 1878
Post by: JonathanPoll on June 29, 2012, 05:04:27 AM
Woops! Sorry about that, I just paid attention to the rules... My bad!
Title: Re: NEH 1878
Post by: Carnut on June 29, 2012, 05:47:56 AM
Quote from: JonathanPoll on June 29, 2012, 05:04:27 AM
Woops! Sorry about that, I just paid attention to the rules... My bad!

Sure you won't do it again..
It's not Argentinian.
Title: Re: NEH 1878
Post by: JonathanPoll on June 29, 2012, 09:30:39 AM
Got it!

"Uttoro" by Janos Schadek, hungarian.

Found it while looking on the "Weirdly Awesome Microcars of Hungary" topic, so not sure if I deserve a point ;)
Title: Re: NEH 1878
Post by: Carnut on June 29, 2012, 09:34:37 AM
Quote from: JonathanPoll on June 29, 2012, 09:30:39 AM
Got it!

"Uttoro" by Janos Schadek, hungarian.

Found it while looking on the "Weirdly Awesome Microcars of Hungary" topic, so not sure if I deserve a point ;)

It doesn't matter how you solve it (as long as it's not using Google Search By Image); if you solve it you get a point!
Well done.
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 1878: Úttörő - Hungarian microcar
Post by: Oguerrerob on June 29, 2012, 09:49:46 AM
Coloured by Mrscharro (another one)
Title: Re: NEH 1878
Post by: JonathanPoll on June 29, 2012, 10:02:56 AM
Quote from: Carnut on June 29, 2012, 09:34:37 AM
Quote from: JonathanPoll on June 29, 2012, 09:30:39 AM
Got it!

"Uttoro" by Janos Schadek, hungarian.

Found it while looking on the "Weirdly Awesome Microcars of Hungary" topic, so not sure if I deserve a point ;)

It doesn't matter how you solve it (as long as it's not using Google Search By Image); if you solve it you get a point!
Well done.

Don't worry, I hate "search by image"... When looking up information on the Nobel 200, I put in some pictures, and it just linked me to "normal" old cars...
Title: Re: Puzzle #194 - Solved 1955 Úttörô
Post by: Otto Puzzell on June 29, 2012, 10:36:38 AM
Merged
Title: Re: Puzzle #194 - Solved 1955 Úttörô
Post by: Carnut on August 26, 2012, 06:22:21 AM
Some more pics:

Title: Re: Puzzle #194 - Solved 1955 Úttörô
Post by: pnegyesi on August 26, 2012, 07:13:35 AM
At the 1955 Budapest International Fair where this car was shown, one of the guys who built the car created a poem, describing its virtues and the reaction at the show. I may translate it later on. Schadek's latest vehicle was a very nice, closed motorcycle sidecar.