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Title: SAC#126: Simca Aronde Cabriolet by Figoni & Falaschi, Tour de France 1955
Post by: SACO on April 08, 2012, 07:55:04 AM
What's the name of this car? Who built it and when?
Title: Re: SAC#126
Post by: SACO on April 15, 2012, 02:47:43 AM
Experts ?
Title: Re: SAC#126
Post by: RayTheRat on April 19, 2012, 12:06:24 PM
This is an off-the-wall guess.  A Simca 8 convertible used by (and presumably built by) Kleber-Colobes to transport journalists along the route of the Tour de France in 1952.
Title: Re: SAC#126
Post by: SACO on April 19, 2012, 02:30:57 PM
Yes for the journalists along the route of the Tour de France but not with a Simca 8 !
Title: Re: SAC#126
Post by: RayTheRat on April 19, 2012, 03:08:03 PM
Ok...how about the 1955 Renault Frégate by Chapron?
Title: Re: SAC#126
Post by: SACO on April 19, 2012, 05:21:15 PM
I have not the exact answer but I think that it is a Renault Fregate au Tour de France 1955 !
I don't think that it is Chapron !
Title: Re: SAC#126
Post by: RayTheRat on April 19, 2012, 06:07:58 PM
Then the only other coachbuilder I know of at the moment would be Figoni & Falaschi.
Title: Re: SAC#126
Post by: SACO on April 20, 2012, 01:55:26 AM
The original photo with Abarth badge :
( locked for you )
Title: Re: SAC#126
Post by: RayTheRat on April 20, 2012, 02:08:59 PM
Letourneur et Marchand?
Title: Re: SAC#126
Post by: SACO on April 20, 2012, 02:30:08 PM
No , I think it's an Italian coachbuilder !
Title: Re: SAC#126
Post by: RayTheRat on April 20, 2012, 02:31:31 PM
The other name that came up in my searching was Ghia.
Title: Re: SAC#126
Post by: SACO on April 20, 2012, 04:19:43 PM
An other Fregate Ondine by Ghia during Tour de France 1956 :
I think that the puzzle is one of  four Ondine built by Ghia !
1 point for you !
Title: Re: SAC#126: Fregate Ondine by Ghia during Tour de France 1955
Post by: RayTheRat on April 20, 2012, 05:21:33 PM
Very good puzzle.  Tough, but good.  :)
Title: Re: SAC#126: Fregate Ondine by Ghia during Tour de France 1955
Post by: Allemano on April 23, 2012, 10:51:55 AM
One of these cars apparently still exists. The belt line strongly resembles the VW Karmann Ghia which was designed at the same time.
Title: Re: SAC#126: Fregate Ondine by Ghia during Tour de France 1955
Post by: Wendax on April 23, 2012, 12:00:32 PM
I still have my doubts whether the puzzle car really is a Ghia bodied one. The rear fender line is not like those of the Fregate Ghia Cabriolets I have seen pictures of. It resembles rather the fender line of the Chapron or Letourneur et Marchand cabriolets, but it is different to those in the way the A-post meets the body (Chapron) or the upper door line (Letourneur et Marchand). Further on, all Ghia Fregates I know have a sloping upper door line the puzzle car has not. So far I haven't found a picture of a Fregate Cabriolet which fits with the puzzle car.
Title: Re: SAC#126: Fregate Ondine by Ghia during Tour de France 1955
Post by: SACO on April 23, 2012, 03:16:52 PM
I have also doubts about puzzle car : rear light come from Peugeot 203 ,and the only Fregate Abarth is the coupé Boano Autobleu ! ::)
Title: Re: SAC#126: Fregate Ondine by Ghia during Tour de France 1955
Post by: Otto Puzzell on April 25, 2012, 05:34:26 AM
The fender shape, door handles, rocker trim and and wheels resemble this Simca 8 Sport Figoni et Falaschi cabriolet from 1952
Title: Re: SAC#126: Fregate Ondine by Ghia during Tour de France 1955
Post by: Wendax on April 25, 2012, 05:39:43 AM
Even the rear lights and the number plate illumniation would be correct. Further on, an Abarth badge would make more sense on a Fiat-based Simca than on a Renault. The attached picture shows an Simca 9 Sport Figoni et Falaschi:
Title: Re: SAC#126: Fregate Ondine by Ghia during Tour de France 1955
Post by: SACO on April 25, 2012, 06:33:18 AM
You are right , my answer is doubtless false  ;D
A Simca Aronde coupé Florida 1953 by Figoni :
Title: Re: SAC#126: Fregate Ondine by Ghia during Tour de France 1955
Post by: SACO on April 25, 2012, 06:43:47 AM
Can you change ,please , the topic's subject : Simca Aronde cabriolet by Figoni & Falaschi ,Tour de France 1955 .
Thank's RayTherat and Wendax  ;D
Title: Re: SAC#126: Simca Aronde Cabriolet by Figoni & Falaschi, Tour de France 1955
Post by: Allemano on April 25, 2012, 06:49:45 AM
Done.
Title: Re: SAC#126: Fregate Ondine by Ghia during Tour de France 1955
Post by: Otto Puzzell on April 25, 2012, 07:29:55 AM
Quote from: SACO on April 25, 2012, 06:43:47 AM
Thank's RayTherat and Wendax  ;D

You're welcome
Title: Re: SAC#126: Simca Aronde Cabriolet by Figoni & Falaschi, Tour de France 1955
Post by: SACO on April 25, 2012, 07:54:44 AM
And thank's Otto !
Title: Re: SAC#126: Simca Aronde Cabriolet by Figoni & Falaschi, Tour de France 1955
Post by: Otto Puzzell on April 25, 2012, 07:58:42 AM
 ;)
Title: Re: SAC#126: Simca Aronde Cabriolet by Figoni & Falaschi, Tour de France 1955
Post by: barrett on April 25, 2012, 10:07:14 AM
Whilst we are on this subject, does anyone know what this is? I'm pretty sure it's Fregate based but beyond that....
Title: Re: SAC#126: Simca Aronde Cabriolet by Figoni & Falaschi, Tour de France 1955
Post by: Allemano on April 25, 2012, 10:15:36 AM
just a little less dark.
Title: Re: SAC#126: Simca Aronde Cabriolet by Figoni & Falaschi, Tour de France 1955
Post by: Wendax on April 25, 2012, 11:55:04 AM
According to René Bellu it is the convertible version of the Figoni Florida, based on the Simca Aronde. The picture must have been taken in 1954 at Enghien.
Title: Re: SAC#126: Simca Aronde Cabriolet by Figoni & Falaschi, Tour de France 1955
Post by: SACO on April 25, 2012, 02:23:20 PM
The same car :
Title: Re: SAC#126: Simca Aronde Cabriolet by Figoni & Falaschi, Tour de France 1955
Post by: barrett on April 25, 2012, 06:48:11 PM
Great work guys, thanks!