For one point, give the make, model, and coachbuilder ! :)
simca elysee 1957?
Not Simca !
Mercedes
Not Mercedes !
Russian Zil
Not Russian !
German?
Renault?
Not German and not Renault !
It looks very french presidential car for ge ;Dn De Gaulle
It's not a french presidential !
Soviet?
Not Soviet !
US car
Not US car !
So it is not a french présidentielle, but is it french?
Not French !
spanish?
Not Spanish !
Is is not a french présidentielle but is it french?
Not French !!
US car
Not US ! ( Second time ;))
then it must be chinese :D
Not Chinese !
I am intrigued by this car. English?
Not English ! ;)
Fiat?
Yes !
Locked for you !
Fiat 1900 A from 1957
Yes !
Have you the coachbuilder ( and the owner ) ?
G.Agnelli but not found the coachbuilder :'(
Yes ,used by G.Agnelli !
I found the coachbuilder in only one source !
Have you any idea ?
Boano?
Yes !
Fiat 1900a cabriolet ministeriale 1957 ,used by G.Agnelli and design by Boano .
1 point for you !
I was waiting this puzzle to be solved to ask a main question: is the first picture an original period one? Where does it come from?
I know the car as it is today, but I've very little information about is actual past history.
the first pic is a recent color pic, easy to find.
???
So when and where it was originally used is still a not confirmed. Most likely it was made for Fiat internal use (VIPs' visits to Mirafiori); hence, by the way, the word "ministeriale" is somehow misleading, because the car should never had any official state purpose.
als15: PM sent
Thanks.
I saw the car about 10 years ago, before a minor restoration was carried on. This is an interesting and almost unknown factory-made one off. Definitely one of the less known bits of Fiat history.
The seller speaks about Gianni Agnelli, grandson of Giovanni ?
The text says:
"In a Luzzago Group auction a the 1957 Fiat 1900 A cabriolet ministeriale used by Gianni Agnelli was sold. This one off, styled in the Fifties by ing. Boano, was used by the Avvocato for official use, when having VIP guests visiting the Lingotto factory (nda: I think they would mean Mirafiori). For being so exclusive and for the name written on the documents, the new owner has paid 40.000 Euros, little more than the base price.
Gianni Agnelli, the "Avvocato" (the "lawyer", as he was called), was indeed the grandson of Giovanni, the "Senatore" (the "senator").
some other pics:
Quote from: als15 on July 11, 2012, 03:45:38 AM
This is an interesting and almost unknown factory-made one off.
So, this must be one of the first projects of Mario Felice Boano when he was appointed as head of Fiat Centro Stile?
Or is it a Gian Paolo Boano design?
Is this car built by 'Fiat Carrozzerie Speciali'?
Open questions... My guess is Gian Paolo and made by Costruzioni Sperimentali (protoshop), which was - actually, is - a smaller facility, best suitable for one-offs than the Carrozzerie Speciali, a small production line.
But it's only my personal feeling.