SAC#241:Delage by Fernandez & Darrin

[SACO]

What's this, by whom,  for 1 point  

[SACO]

Experts ?

[bentleybob]

Delage D8S 1931 by Fernandez & Darrin?

[SACO]

Yes it's a Delage D8S ! but not by Fernandez & Darrin !
Locked for you !

[bentleybob]

Rather puzzled by your statement that is isn't by Fernandez & Darrin, as this car was owned by John Bolster, the motoring journalist for years and appears as such in the Profile series, in the issue re the Delage D8. Much later, this car went through the hands of the Blackhawk Collection, in red and black and sporting a Lalique mascot. Both shown as Fernandez & Darrin...

[SACO]

I does not know what to think 
Here is my source :automobile engineer 1933 :

[SACO]

The car of Blackhawk Collection is different !

[bentleybob]

This should be the car you are asking about..
As it is shown, in your pic as well, on the Paris Salon, the summer hood was below deck, and it was little more than a very light roadster affair. This was (later?) augmented by a (in any case) professionally made drop head coupé roof which kept out the elements rather better, but which did not fold down very far. Luckily the original body was not altered, and with the summer hood out, it had a vast luggage department.

[RayTheRat]

Still locked for Bentlybob?

Oops.  If you're still posting to this thread then I suppose it must be locked.  I'll wait.

RtR

[SACO]

Unlocked !
But the black and red car is very modified compared with puzzle car i

[RayTheRat]

Delage D8S by Chapron

[bentleybob]

1. No design by Chapron even comes close to the car shown.
2. The decoration with the swage over the bonnet is a hallmark of Fernandez & Darrin.

[SACO]

A suggestion by a pro ?

[bentleybob]

And: there are numerous restorations, particulary in the USA, during which cars are adapted to suit the ideas of its new owners, up to the extent of modifying a body almost beyond recognition (A particular Squire and a Mercedes 540K come to mind). Just a thought as silence seems to have come over this item...

[SACO]

I don't find the other information !
I think that the text of my source is false and that it is  Fernandez & Darrin the coachbuilder( with some modifications later )
1 point for  bentleybob  

[bentleybob]

Thanks. Let's keep an open eye to any forthcoming information in the future.

[bentleybob]

If anyone has a subscription on ADAC Motorwelt "Doppelausgabe 46+47" vom 24. November 1933 - Seite 13, could he please have a look as this car is also shown there..

[sixtee5cuda]

Forthcoming information...

In 2020, Bonhams auction in France included a 1935 Delage D8S Cabriolet by Chapron.  Black and red, said to have been refreshed by the Blackhawk Collection.  The auction pictures look a lot like the above red and black model.  If this is in fact a Chapron Delage, it has "The decoration with the swage over the bonnet" used by Fernandez & Darrin.

Auction images:

[sixtee5cuda]

More information from 'The Delage Series D8' pamphlet from 1966:

Here is a picture of the John Bolster Delage D8S.  It looks similar to the original puzzle image, but in a darker color:

[sixtee5cuda]

With my posts and the previous information, it is still hard to reach a conclusion about the puzzle car.

I think that all 4 images of a black and red Delage are the same car.

Do we trust Bonhams when they describe the car as being by Chapron?

Is the original puzzle car, the same car in the B&W John Bolster image I posted?

I don't believe that the original puzzle car is the same as the black and red car.

[Wendax]

If anyone has a subscription on ADAC Motorwelt "Doppelausgabe 46+47" vom 24. November 1933 - Seite 13, could he please have a look as this car is also shown there..

And again described as a Chapron.