AutoPuzzles - The Internet's Museum of Rare Cars!

Puzzles, Games and Name That Car => Solved AutoPuzzles => 2012 => Topic started by: SACO on February 20, 2012, 04:45:51 AM

Title: SAC#83 : Fiat 1100s ,Gilco chassis ,by Zagato 1951
Post by: SACO on February 20, 2012, 04:45:51 AM
Please , make, type, year and by whom, for 1 point.
Title: Re: SAC#83
Post by: fgsavoia on February 20, 2012, 02:17:27 PM
Italian?
Title: Re: SAC#83
Post by: SACO on February 20, 2012, 02:28:42 PM
Yes !
Title: Re: SAC#83
Post by: fgsavoia on February 22, 2012, 04:52:16 PM
Siata?
Title: Re: SAC#83
Post by: SACO on February 23, 2012, 01:32:37 AM
Not Siata !
Title: Re: SAC#83
Post by: foxawy on February 23, 2012, 07:09:41 PM
maserati 3500gt??
Title: Re: SAC#83
Post by: SACO on February 24, 2012, 01:40:24 AM
Not Maserati !
Title: Re: SAC#83
Post by: foxawy on February 24, 2012, 01:54:26 PM
ferrari?
Title: Re: SAC#83
Post by: SACO on February 24, 2012, 01:56:50 PM
Not Ferrari !
Title: Re: SAC#83
Post by: fgsavoia on February 26, 2012, 03:26:16 PM
Lancia?
Title: Re: SAC#83
Post by: SACO on February 26, 2012, 05:09:54 PM
Not Lancia !
Title: Re: SAC#83
Post by: fgsavoia on March 01, 2012, 03:36:24 PM
Nardi?
Title: Re: SAC#83
Post by: SACO on March 01, 2012, 05:11:57 PM
Not Nardi !
Title: Re: SAC#83
Post by: fgsavoia on March 05, 2012, 07:04:55 PM
Alfa?
Title: Re: SAC#83
Post by: RayTheRat on March 05, 2012, 07:26:13 PM
Fiat 8V Spyder?
Title: Re: SAC#83
Post by: SACO on March 06, 2012, 02:05:33 AM
The base is Fiat !
Title: Re: SAC#83
Post by: fgsavoia on March 06, 2012, 02:10:55 PM
8v Motto?
Title: Re: SAC#83
Post by: SACO on March 06, 2012, 02:19:57 PM
Not Fiat 8V !
Title: Re: SAC#83
Post by: fgsavoia on March 06, 2012, 02:22:33 PM
1500?
Title: Re: SAC#83
Post by: SACO on March 06, 2012, 02:28:55 PM
Not 1500 !
Title: Re: SAC#83
Post by: fgsavoia on March 06, 2012, 02:37:16 PM
Is Motto correct?
Title: Re: SAC#83
Post by: SACO on March 07, 2012, 01:46:06 AM
Not Motto !
Title: Re: SAC#83
Post by: fgsavoia on March 07, 2012, 01:59:48 PM
Vignale?
Title: Re: SAC#83
Post by: SACO on March 07, 2012, 02:17:50 PM
Not Vignale !
Title: Re: SAC#83
Post by: SACO on March 08, 2012, 02:29:34 AM
Experts !
Title: Re: SAC#83
Post by: foxawy on March 08, 2012, 02:49:49 AM
1200 cabriolet ??
Title: Re: SAC#83
Post by: SACO on March 08, 2012, 02:50:53 AM
Not 1200 !
Title: Re: SAC#83
Post by: als15 on March 08, 2012, 10:36:20 AM
By an Italian coachbuilder?

Perhaps an old 1100 rebodied?
Title: Re: SAC#83
Post by: SACO on March 08, 2012, 11:10:01 AM
Yes ,Fiat 1100 base with Italian coachbuilder !
Title: Re: SAC#83
Post by: als15 on March 08, 2012, 11:16:34 AM
Could it be by Farina?
Title: Re: SAC#83
Post by: SACO on March 08, 2012, 11:24:49 AM
Not Farina !
But locked for you !
Title: Re: SAC#83
Post by: als15 on March 08, 2012, 11:34:25 AM
Ok, frankly speaking I don't know it. So the only thing I can guess is Pininfarina.
Title: Re: SAC#83
Post by: SACO on March 08, 2012, 11:47:57 AM
Not Pininfarina !
It's a Fiat 1100S !
Unlocked ?
Title: Re: SAC#83
Post by: als15 on March 08, 2012, 12:14:00 PM
Another guess: Castagna?
Title: Re: SAC#83
Post by: SACO on March 08, 2012, 12:19:51 PM
Not Castagna !
Title: Re: SAC#83
Post by: als15 on March 08, 2012, 12:21:17 PM
 ??? The list is still long...

A major one or a very obscure brand?

Mi next guess would be Colli.
Title: Re: SAC#83
Post by: SACO on March 08, 2012, 02:26:24 PM
Not Colli but a major one !
Title: Re: SAC#83
Post by: als15 on March 08, 2012, 03:57:01 PM
Bertone?
Title: Re: SAC#83
Post by: fgsavoia on March 08, 2012, 04:19:04 PM
Ghia?
Title: Re: SAC#83
Post by: SACO on March 08, 2012, 04:41:05 PM
Not Bertone and not Ghia !
Title: Re: SAC#83
Post by: als15 on March 08, 2012, 04:42:59 PM
We have burned almost all the major ones... Still missing Touring and a few others.
Title: Re: SAC#83
Post by: SACO on March 08, 2012, 04:58:28 PM
Not Touring !
This coachbuilder made few of spider after the war !
Title: Re: SAC#83
Post by: als15 on March 08, 2012, 05:03:07 PM
Zagato?
Title: Re: SAC#83
Post by: SACO on March 08, 2012, 05:19:10 PM
Yes , it's Zagato !  :)
But the badge of the car is not Fiat !
Locked for you !
Title: Re: SAC#83
Post by: als15 on March 08, 2012, 05:20:48 PM
Ok, so a Cisitalia?
Title: Re: SAC#83
Post by: SACO on March 09, 2012, 01:59:07 AM
Not Cisitalia !
Title: Re: SAC#83
Post by: als15 on March 09, 2012, 03:29:12 AM
Not Cisitalia and not Nardi. I'm pretty sure also neither Abarth nor Stanguellini.

Ermini?
Title: Re: SAC#83
Post by: SACO on March 09, 2012, 03:38:18 AM
 :shakehead:
Title: Re: SAC#83
Post by: als15 on March 09, 2012, 03:41:16 AM
It's becoming hard... When you say "badge" you mean phisically the badge on the nose or just the name?
Because another guess could be Gilco, but this is not an actual brand carrying a badge.
Title: Re: SAC#83
Post by: SACO on March 09, 2012, 03:55:19 AM
Yes !

Fiat gilco 1100s 1951 zagato !

The car always exists :

1 point for you !
Title: Re: SAC#83
Post by: als15 on March 09, 2012, 03:58:56 AM
Happy to have find the solution (even if very late: I know very well that cat but, I didn't connected the rear with the front view  >:().

Only a small detail: Gilco is not a car brand. It's just the maker of the tubular frame chassis. Gilco never made one single car; but according to the period FIA regulations, cars entered races with the name of the chassis-maker. This is the only reason why sometimes some cars are called "Gilco", but under an historical point of view this is not correct.  ;)


Title: Re: SAC#83
Post by: SACO on March 09, 2012, 04:04:04 AM
Yes  ,no Gilco badge !  :)
Title: Re: SAC#83 : Fiat 1100s ,Gilco chassis ,by Zagato 1951
Post by: Carnut on March 09, 2012, 05:42:49 AM
I had it lined up for a future puzzle!:



Title: Re: SAC#83 : Fiat 1100s ,Gilco chassis ,by Zagato 1951
Post by: Allemano on March 09, 2012, 10:27:55 AM
Quote from: Carnut on March 09, 2012, 05:42:49 AM
I had it lined up for a future puzzle!:




Are you sure that it's the same car? At least the vents in the hood are missing..
Title: Re: SAC#83 : Fiat 1100s ,Gilco chassis ,by Zagato 1951
Post by: Carnut on March 09, 2012, 10:53:17 AM
Quote from: Allemano on March 09, 2012, 10:27:55 AM
Quote from: Carnut on March 09, 2012, 05:42:49 AM
I had it lined up for a future puzzle!:




Are you sure that it's the same car? At least the vents in the hood are missing..

It is a Gilco 1100S Zagato but not necessarily the same car (the wheels are different of course!); maybe they made more than one?
My picture is described as the "prototype" on the Zagato Cars 'site, but that in itself doesn't meant there was more than 1.
I think I've seen a picture from a different angle and the vents are actually there.
Title: Re: SAC#83 : Fiat 1100s ,Gilco chassis ,by Zagato 1951
Post by: SACO on March 09, 2012, 02:26:22 PM
I think that the wheelbase is different :
Title: Re: SAC#83 : Fiat 1100s ,Gilco chassis ,by Zagato 1951
Post by: Carnut on March 09, 2012, 06:48:50 PM
Yes - and the front grille could be slightely less square as well.
So - they built more than one!
Title: Re: SAC#83 : Fiat 1100s ,Gilco chassis ,by Zagato 1951
Post by: grobmotorix on April 14, 2017, 06:27:29 AM
No puzzle photo...

This car was for sale at this year´s Techno Classica for a whopping 185.000€...