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Title: Solved: Allemano's № 732 - 1961-62 Wax Alfa Romeo
Post by: Allemano on December 01, 2011, 01:08:37 PM
I guess this could be difficult, but on AP you never know.  ;)

What's the name of this car? Who built it and when?
One point for the right answer!

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Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: Allemano on December 06, 2011, 03:20:19 AM
Does it end at the Experts?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: SACO on December 06, 2011, 04:18:46 AM
Prototype Alfa Romeo GIULIA SS  ?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: Allemano on December 06, 2011, 04:27:13 AM
It's a Alfa Romeo, but not a prototype and according to my source not a Giulia.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: SACO on December 06, 2011, 04:36:30 AM
Guiletta by Bertone ?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: Allemano on December 06, 2011, 04:42:17 AM
Guiletta by Bertone ?
A modified Giulietta, but much more obscure.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: Iluvatar on December 06, 2011, 11:07:03 AM
It looks like one of the first Giulietta Sprint Speciale prototypes by Bertone...
MPC
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: Allemano on December 08, 2011, 02:00:24 PM
It looks like one of the first Giulietta Sprint Speciale prototypes by Bertone...
MPC
But it isn't if my source doesn't fool me again... ;)
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: Iluvatar on December 08, 2011, 05:20:05 PM
It looks like one of the first Giulietta Sprint Speciale prototypes by Bertone...
MPC
But it isn't if my source doesn't fool me again... ;)
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: Allemano on December 09, 2011, 01:02:11 AM
It looks like one of the first Giulietta Sprint Speciale prototypes by Bertone...
MPC
But it isn't if my source doesn't fool me again... ;)
In this case I left the puzzle pic unaltered, so, you easily see the difference(s).. ;)
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: Iluvatar on December 10, 2011, 08:33:45 AM
Was Conrero involved??
MPC
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: Allemano on December 10, 2011, 10:04:27 AM
Was Conrero involved??
MPC
Not that I know of.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: Allemano on December 12, 2011, 06:48:13 AM
I think it's not easy even for Professionals.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: Wendax on December 12, 2011, 07:06:32 AM
Again, I've seen it before and can't remember where.  :(

Is it a German fiberglass body?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: Allemano on December 12, 2011, 07:09:26 AM
Is it a German fiberglass body?
Yes!

Locked for you until your next reply!
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: Wendax on December 12, 2011, 02:09:39 PM
Was it from Berlin?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: Allemano on December 12, 2011, 03:11:49 PM
Was it from Berlin?
You earned yourself another lock! It's indeed from Berlin.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: Wendax on December 12, 2011, 04:54:23 PM
Can't find it, so I'll have a guess: Jacobsen & Steinberg? (But I don't think so  :( )
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: Allemano on December 13, 2011, 03:17:51 AM
Can't find it, so I'll have a guess: Jacobsen & Steinberg? (But I don't think so  :( )
Not them.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: Wendax on December 13, 2011, 03:21:33 AM
From 1959?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: Allemano on December 13, 2011, 03:25:46 AM
No, later.


The puzzle is open for all again.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: Wendax on December 13, 2011, 03:26:45 AM
1961?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: Allemano on December 13, 2011, 03:28:57 AM
1961?
Yes. They built this car for two years.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: Allemano on January 30, 2012, 01:45:25 AM
BH?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: SACO on January 30, 2012, 04:44:29 AM
by  Luigi Colani ?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: Allemano on January 30, 2012, 04:56:03 AM
by  Luigi Colani ?
Not him.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: Allemano on January 30, 2012, 05:09:52 AM
Please apologize!  :-\

I re-read my source and there actually IS a connection to L. Colani.
At least the company built a few Colani designs, too. Alas I don't know if the puzzle car is one of them!

Locked for SACO!
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: SACO on January 30, 2012, 05:48:56 AM
Wilhelm Heusel ?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: Allemano on January 30, 2012, 05:58:09 AM
I have two names of drivers which raced this car in those years, but none of them was Wilhelm Heusel.
However at least one of them shared the forename Wilhelm...
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: Allemano on January 31, 2012, 07:14:43 AM
Locked for SACO!
Shall I unlock it again?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: roger on January 31, 2012, 09:05:51 AM
Removed
Sorry didn't notice still locked
Will wait  :-X
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: SACO on January 31, 2012, 12:25:47 PM
Yes ,unlocked ! :)
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: Allemano on January 31, 2012, 12:35:38 PM
Thanks.

Free for all again!
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: roger on January 31, 2012, 05:38:41 PM
Were these coachbuilder better know for VW conversions
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: Allemano on February 01, 2012, 12:54:23 AM
Were these coachbuilder better know for VW conversions
I know only of Alfa Romeos.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: roger on February 02, 2012, 11:50:55 AM
Not Berlin but Deutch

Drews ?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: Allemano on February 02, 2012, 12:02:47 PM
From Berlin I've said, so not Drews!
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: Allemano on February 22, 2012, 02:32:29 AM
Three letters only...
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: woodinsight on March 07, 2012, 01:16:17 PM
A.R.V.?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: Allemano on March 08, 2012, 02:16:47 AM
A.R.V.?
No, sorry.

Actually it's an abbreviation, but it can be used as a word as well.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: Wendax on March 08, 2012, 03:05:54 AM
BAR?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: Allemano on March 08, 2012, 03:11:15 AM
BAR?
Not BAR. The word I'm looking for describes a product often used in these days at a major sport event...
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: Wendax on March 08, 2012, 03:19:52 AM
EPO?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: Allemano on March 08, 2012, 03:31:13 AM
EPO?
It's not doping related, but it improves the performance..
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: Allemano on March 14, 2012, 02:03:09 AM
The sport event ended last Sunday...
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: SACO on March 14, 2012, 02:34:01 AM
BAT ?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: Allemano on March 14, 2012, 02:35:29 AM
BAT ?
Not one of those..
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: woodinsight on March 14, 2012, 03:41:03 AM
TRY?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: Allemano on March 14, 2012, 03:53:02 AM
TRY?
Try again! ;D
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: woodinsight on March 14, 2012, 04:04:17 AM
LET?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: Allemano on March 14, 2012, 04:19:54 AM
Not LET.

The product is also used in water sports..
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: woodinsight on March 14, 2012, 04:57:18 AM
OAR?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: Allemano on March 14, 2012, 05:59:27 AM
OAR?
Not OAR. Just also think again of improving performance...
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: Wendax on March 14, 2012, 06:32:06 AM
LZR?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: Allemano on March 14, 2012, 06:39:06 AM
LZR?
No. Don't forget that it's a word with a meaning.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: Wendax on March 14, 2012, 06:41:33 AM
German word or English word?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: Allemano on March 14, 2012, 07:03:05 AM
German word or English word?
An English word, but in German it sounds almost the same, though differently spelled.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: SACO on March 14, 2012, 07:38:38 AM
AIR ?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: Allemano on March 14, 2012, 07:44:17 AM
AIR ?
'Air' and 'Luft' even don't sound similar, do they? :scratch:
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: ImpishGrin on March 14, 2012, 07:59:20 AM
OIL?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: Allemano on March 14, 2012, 08:07:45 AM
OIL?
Not Oil, but that's the closest so far. (product-wise not phonetically)
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: ImpishGrin on March 14, 2012, 08:12:03 AM
FAT?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: Allemano on March 14, 2012, 08:19:06 AM
FAT?
Not FAT but close again. The word I've been looking for is more a sales product while fat or oil are ingredients...
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: ImpishGrin on March 14, 2012, 08:36:15 AM
So, it's some kind of grease/lubricant?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: Allemano on March 14, 2012, 08:42:52 AM
So, it's some kind of grease/lubricant?
Sort of... I guess you're enlightened now!
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: Otto Puzzell on March 14, 2012, 08:50:43 AM
PAM?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: Allemano on March 14, 2012, 08:52:04 AM
PAM?
no.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: Otto Puzzell on March 14, 2012, 08:54:20 AM
Zep?

STP?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: Allemano on March 14, 2012, 08:54:42 AM
This product/material is not only used as a lubricant/grease.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: Allemano on March 14, 2012, 08:55:14 AM
Zep?
it's not that either.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: Allemano on March 14, 2012, 08:55:44 AM
and not STP – it's a word.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: Tom_I on March 14, 2012, 08:55:59 AM
WAX?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: Allemano on March 14, 2012, 08:56:06 AM
and not a brand name.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: Allemano on March 14, 2012, 08:56:23 AM
Wax?
And we have a winner!!!!

more infos later.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 732
Post by: Allemano on March 15, 2012, 04:26:26 AM
That's what my source reveals:

quote:
Die Firma Auto-Wax in Berlin-Charlottenburg bot 1961-1962 Sportwagen mit Kunststoffkarosserie an, die auf einer um 10 cm verkürzten Bodengruppe der Giulietta von Alfa Romeo basierten. Der Wax bzw. Wax-Alfa wurde als Coupé und als Cabriolets angeboten. Einige dieser Sportwagen nahmen am Berliner Avus-Rennen teil, gefahren von Herbert Schultze und Wilhelm Heckel. In der gleichen Firma wurden auch einige Kunststoff-Karosserien nach Entwürfen des Designers Luigi Colani angefertigt.


~ Auto-Wax in Berlin-Charlottenburg offered plastic-bodied sports cars from 1961-62 which were based on a 10 cm shortened AR Giulietta chassis. Coupé and cabriolet were sold under the name "Wax" or Wax Alfa". Some of these started at Berlin's Avus race piloted by Herbert Schultze and Wilhelm Heckel.
Wax also built plastic bodies designed by Luigi Colani.

One point for Tom_I.
Title: Re: Solved: Allemano's № 732 - 1961-62 Wax Alfa Romeo
Post by: Wendax on November 09, 2017, 04:16:33 PM
A rear view:

(This car seems to have concealed front lamps.)
Title: Re: Solved: Allemano's № 732 - 1961-62 Wax Alfa Romeo
Post by: Allemano on November 09, 2017, 09:06:32 PM
:thumbsup: