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Title: Solved: Allemano's № 813 - Emil Vorster's AFM
Post by: Allemano on May 30, 2012, 02:13:35 PM
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Title: Re: Allemano's № 813
Post by: Allemano on June 20, 2012, 07:45:33 AM
moved.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 813
Post by: Allemano on July 02, 2012, 04:41:05 AM
... again.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 813
Post by: faksta on July 02, 2012, 05:29:03 AM
I think it's Emil Vorster at the wheel of his special-bodied 1100cc AFM, also seen in a sleek streamliner form.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 813
Post by: Allemano on July 02, 2012, 05:32:04 AM
Quote from: faksta on July 02, 2012, 05:29:03 AM
I think it's Emil Vorster at the wheel of his special-bodied 1100cc AFM, also seen in a sleek streamliner form.
That's right.
Title: Re: Solved: Allemano's № 813 - Emil Vorster's AFM
Post by: grobmotorix on February 05, 2013, 05:29:36 PM
Another contemporary magazine clipping:
Title: Re: Solved: Allemano's № 813 - Emil Vorster's AFM
Post by: Allemano on October 12, 2013, 08:25:25 AM
According to a book on Porsche Specials this car has many KdF components and was bodied by Drews. Emil "Teddy" Vorster won in 1947 the German championship in this car.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 813
Post by: Wendax on October 12, 2013, 08:35:10 AM
Quote from: faksta on July 02, 2012, 05:29:03 AM
I think it's Emil Vorster at the wheel of his special-bodied 1100cc AFM, also seen in a sleek streamliner form.
I guess, Faksta meant this streamliner: http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=13662,
but I think its monoposto body looked like this:
Title: Re: Solved: Allemano's № 813 - Emil Vorster's AFM
Post by: Allemano on October 12, 2013, 08:49:43 AM
I'm not sure but ain't that VW letters on the hubcabs? (second pic I've posted)
Title: Re: Solved: Allemano's № 813 - Emil Vorster's AFM
Post by: Wendax on October 12, 2013, 08:52:50 AM
There is a misunderstanding. I agree with you that your puzzle car is based on a KdF-Wagen, the hubcaps are definitely Kdf. I think that Faksta was correct by naming Emil Vorster, but wrong with the AFM bit.
Title: Re: Solved: Allemano's № 813 - Emil Vorster's AFM
Post by: Allemano on October 12, 2013, 09:26:22 AM
Yes that's what think as well. On the other hand there's a source which mentions a AFM for Vorster in 1947. I can't find a reference in my book though

PM sent.
Title: Re: Solved: Allemano's № 813 - Emil Vorster's AFM
Post by: grobmotorix on October 12, 2013, 09:30:00 AM
My photo shows the Vorster AFM. I scanned it from "Der Motorsport", copy 1.6.49.
The text said it was Vorster sitting in his AFM at the starting grid of 1949 Eifelpokal race.

There are some differences to spot (the rims and the front hood), but maybe it´s two different cars?

But when you look in the lists, he drove AFM and MG with starting number 42 in 1948 and 1949.
So, what is it?
Title: Re: Solved: Allemano's № 813 - Emil Vorster's AFM
Post by: Allemano on October 12, 2013, 09:48:36 AM
I think it's the same car.

What about the records of 1947?
Title: Re: Solved: Allemano's № 813 - Emil Vorster's AFM
Post by: Wendax on October 12, 2013, 10:32:04 AM
The more I look at it, the more I think all pictures show the same car in different stages of its modification. It started with KdF wheels and later on was equipped with the multihole wheels without hubcaps. I was irritated by the exhaust pipe on the picture I posted, but that starts exactly at the postion of the "exhaust organ" shown in the other pictures, so probably just another modification.
Title: Re: Solved: Allemano's № 813 - Emil Vorster's AFM
Post by: grobmotorix on October 12, 2013, 10:34:07 AM
This sounds quite reasonable...
Title: Re: Solved: Allemano's № 813 - Emil Vorster's AFM
Post by: Allemano on October 12, 2013, 11:13:33 AM
AFM doesn't necessarily mean no KdF parts or am I wrong?
Title: Re: Solved: Allemano's № 813 - Emil Vorster's AFM
Post by: grobmotorix on October 12, 2013, 11:39:38 AM
When you hear AFM, you think BMW.

But there was also an AFM-Fiat 1100,  and there definitly was this KDF-based vehicle.
Title: Re: Solved: Allemano's № 813 - Emil Vorster's AFM
Post by: Wendax on October 12, 2013, 11:56:23 AM
... and an Opel-engined one: http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=11859
Title: Re: Solved: Allemano's № 813 - Emil Vorster's AFM
Post by: Wendax on November 25, 2014, 12:58:06 PM
Another picture:
Title: Re: Solved: Allemano's № 813 - Emil Vorster's AFM
Post by: Wendax on May 01, 2020, 08:56:44 AM
Emil Vorster's car was built on a KdF chassis modified by Fritz Hahn of Stuttgart. The engine was a 1100 cc AFM based on Fiat. The body shown in this thread was an Intertyp body built by Drews. It was interchangeable with a streamline body built by Delfosse. The car with both bodies was sold to Gustav Nonninger after Vorster quit racing following an accident at the Aachener Waldrennen where one spectator was killed and several injured. The streamline-bodied car has been puzzled here: https://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/2011-39/solved-allemano's-8470-474-1951-afm-streamliner-with-gustav-nonninger-at-the-whe.
Title: Re: Solved: Allemano's № 813 - Emil Vorster's AFM
Post by: grobmotorix on May 01, 2020, 09:13:46 AM
Interesting facts - thank you!

It looks like Jekyll and Hyde with its different bodies...
Title: Re: Solved: Allemano's № 813 - Emil Vorster's AFM
Post by: gte4289 on March 13, 2021, 04:24:00 AM
Additional images:
Title: Re: Solved: Allemano's № 813 - Emil Vorster's AFM
Post by: grobmotorix on March 13, 2021, 05:02:04 AM
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