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Title: Solved: Bro gozh ma zadoù
Post by: Wendax on August 22, 2012, 07:16:12 AM
Well, my "Cold As Ice" group puzzle seems not to be very popular. Perhaps it is the wrong time for such a chilly puzzle, may be my connections are too obscure, I don't know. Nevertheless here is another group puzzle. It is more of a classic "Cars and Places" puzzle. I spent many of my past vacations in Brittany, so I tried a puzzle around that theme. You will find below 10 cars (c'harr-tan in Breton) and 10 places in Brittany (Breizh in Breton).
You just have to find the connection.  ;D

Points will be awarded when all pairs are found.

The cars:
Title: Re: Bro gozh ma zadoù
Post by: Wendax on August 22, 2012, 07:17:19 AM
The places:
Title: Re: Bro gozh ma zadoù
Post by: Wendax on August 22, 2012, 07:18:09 AM
The correct pairs:

C'harr-tan 1: Marathon Corsaire - Breizh 8: Statue of the corsair Surcouf in St-Malo (qwaszx)
C'harr-tan 2: Renault 5 Belle Île by Gruau - Breizh 3: Belle Île (Julien1A)
C'harr-tan 3: Westfalia Jules Verne - Breizh 1: Nantes, where Jules Verne was born (Julien1A)
C'harr-tan 4: Bignan cyclecar - Breizh 6: Calvaire in Bignan (Craig Gillingham)
C'harr-tan 5: Saviem Camion Isotherme bodied by Carrosserie Tual at Trédion -Breizh #10: Château de Trédion (woodinsight)
C'harr-tan 6: Citroen C6 - Breizh 9: Rennes, where it is built (Julien1A)
C'harr-tan 7: Corbin Merlin Roadster - Breizh 2: Tombeau de Merlin (Merlin's grave) (Tom_I)
C'harr-tan 8: Georges Irat Type 4A with Morlet (not Morlaix!) bodywork - Breizh 4: Morlaix (woodinsight)
C'harr-tan 9: Loheac trucks - Breizh 5: Lohéac (Julien1A)
C'harr-tan 10: Victor Hémery - Breizh 7: Brest where he might have been born (or not) (woodinsight)
Title: Re: Bro gozh ma zadoù
Post by: Julien1A on August 22, 2012, 08:24:22 AM
Renault 5 belle ile... Grault
C'harr-tan 2 - Breizh 3

Citroen C6 made in Rennes
C'harr-tan 6 - Breizh 6

Viano Westfalia Jules Vernes (Nantes)
C'harr-tan 3 - Breizh 1
Title: Re: Bro gozh ma zadoù
Post by: Wendax on August 22, 2012, 08:54:26 AM
Quote from: Julien1A on August 22, 2012, 08:24:22 AM
Renault 5 belle ile... Grault
C'harr-tan 2 - Breizh 3

Right car, right pairing. What do you mean with "Grault"?

Quote from: Julien1A on August 22, 2012, 08:24:22 AM
Citroen C6 made in Rennes
C'harr-tan 6 - Breizh 6

Right car, right reason, wrong number of Breizh picture

Quote from: Julien1A on August 22, 2012, 08:24:22 AM
Viano Westfalia Jules Vernes (Nantes)
C'harr-tan 3 - Breizh 1
Right car, right pair, please add the reason why Jules Verne and Nantes are connected
Title: Re: Bro gozh ma zadoù
Post by: Julien1A on August 22, 2012, 08:59:25 AM
Jules Vernes is born in Nante...

I meant Gruau who is the builder of the conversion on renault 5.
(http://www.renault-5.net/catalogues_super5/supercinq_BELLEILE.jpg)

one other was the belgium company EBS:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f1/5gtturb19.jpg)
Title: Re: Bro gozh ma zadoù
Post by: Wendax on August 22, 2012, 09:11:09 AM
Ok, you just need to name the correct Rennes picture to obtain the third point.
Title: Re: Bro gozh ma zadoù
Post by: Craig Gillingham on August 22, 2012, 09:26:36 AM
C'harr-tan 4, I think is a Bignan. I'm not sure where it connects to, Breizh 4?
Title: Re: Bro gozh ma zadoù
Post by: Craig Gillingham on August 22, 2012, 09:34:50 AM
C'harr-tan 8, I think is a Georges Irat. Does it link to Breizh 10?
Title: Re: Bro gozh ma zadoù
Post by: Julien1A on August 22, 2012, 09:41:49 AM
Quote from: Wendax on August 22, 2012, 09:11:09 AM
Ok, you just need to name the correct Rennes picture to obtain the third point.

Actually I meant Breizh 9! not sure 9 is accurate... but have not clue what is 6...
Title: Re: Bro gozh ma zadoù
Post by: Wendax on August 22, 2012, 09:44:01 AM
Quote from: Craig Gillingham on August 22, 2012, 09:26:36 AM
C'harr-tan 4, I think is a Bignan. I'm not sure where it connects to, Breizh 4?
C'harr-tan 4 is a Bignan, but it doesn't connect to Breizh 4.
Title: Re: Bro gozh ma zadoù
Post by: Wendax on August 22, 2012, 09:48:43 AM
Quote from: Craig Gillingham on August 22, 2012, 09:34:50 AM
C'harr-tan 8, I think is a Georges Irat. Does it link to Breizh 10?
C'harr-tan 8 is a Georges Irat, but it doesn't match with Breizh 10. If you try to find out more about this car, you may find a connection.
Title: Re: Bro gozh ma zadoù
Post by: Wendax on August 22, 2012, 09:49:24 AM
Quote from: Julien1A on August 22, 2012, 09:41:49 AM
Quote from: Wendax on August 22, 2012, 09:11:09 AM
Ok, you just need to name the correct Rennes picture to obtain the third point.

Actually I meant Breizh 9! not sure 9 is accurate... but have not clue what is 6...
Yes, Breizh 9 is Rennes.
Title: Re: Bro gozh ma zadoù
Post by: Julien1A on August 22, 2012, 10:02:04 AM
Does the trucks have a connection with E.Leclerc & Landerneau?
Title: Re: Bro gozh ma zadoù
Post by: Wendax on August 22, 2012, 10:18:54 AM
Quote from: Julien1A on August 22, 2012, 10:02:04 AM
Does the trucks have a connection with E.Leclerc & Landerneau?
Nothing to do with my favorite hypermarché.
Title: Re: Bro gozh ma zadoù
Post by: Craig Gillingham on August 22, 2012, 04:42:59 PM
Quote from: Wendax on August 22, 2012, 09:44:01 AM
Quote from: Craig Gillingham on August 22, 2012, 09:26:36 AM
C'harr-tan 4, I think is a Bignan. I'm not sure where it connects to, Breizh 4?
C'harr-tan 4 is a Bignan, but it doesn't connect to Breizh 4.
Does it connect to Breizh 2, Allée couverte Bignan?
Title: Re: Bro gozh ma zadoù
Post by: Wendax on August 22, 2012, 04:48:22 PM
Quote from: Craig Gillingham on August 22, 2012, 04:42:59 PM
Quote from: Wendax on August 22, 2012, 09:44:01 AM
Quote from: Craig Gillingham on August 22, 2012, 09:26:36 AM
C'harr-tan 4, I think is a Bignan. I'm not sure where it connects to, Breizh 4?
C'harr-tan 4 is a Bignan, but it doesn't connect to Breizh 4.
Does it connect to Breizh 2, Allée couverte Bignan?
Nice idea, but Breizh 2 is not the Allée couverte at Bignan. But I think it won't take you long now to find the right picture connected to Bignan.
Title: Re: Bro gozh ma zadoù
Post by: Craig Gillingham on August 22, 2012, 05:03:57 PM
Quote from: Wendax on August 22, 2012, 04:48:22 PM
Quote from: Craig Gillingham on August 22, 2012, 04:42:59 PM
Quote from: Wendax on August 22, 2012, 09:44:01 AM
Quote from: Craig Gillingham on August 22, 2012, 09:26:36 AM
C'harr-tan 4, I think is a Bignan. I'm not sure where it connects to, Breizh 4?
C'harr-tan 4 is a Bignan, but it doesn't connect to Breizh 4.
Does it connect to Breizh 2, Allée couverte Bignan?
Nice idea, but Breizh 2 is not the Allée couverte at Bignan. But I think it won't take you long now to find the right picture connected to Bignan.
How about Breizh 6, de la ville de Bignan?
Title: Re: Bro gozh ma zadoù
Post by: Wendax on August 22, 2012, 05:34:55 PM
Yes, Breizh 6 is the calvaire in Bignan. Well done.
Title: Re: Bro gozh ma zadoù
Post by: qwaszx on August 22, 2012, 07:29:00 PM
Car 1 is the resin body of a Marathon by Siop -but could'nt find a picture of marathon... :-\
Title: Re: Bro gozh ma zadoù
Post by: Wendax on August 23, 2012, 02:30:58 AM
Quote from: qwaszx on August 22, 2012, 07:29:00 PM
Car 1 is the resin body of a Marathon by Siop -but could'nt find a picture of marathon... :-\
Probably because the town of Marathon isn't placed in Brittany.  :D
The full name of the car may help you along.
Title: Re: Bro gozh ma zadoù
Post by: Otto Puzzell on August 23, 2012, 03:50:10 AM
Featured!

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Title: Re: Bro gozh ma zadoù
Post by: Julien1A on August 23, 2012, 03:57:41 AM
Car 9: Antoine Loheac plastic truck:
(http://3b.img.v4.skyrock.net/5979/59025979/pics/3045392907_2_3_g8z9BSq6.jpg)

though he is from Rouen, Loheac is also a city in brittany...

Loheac (manoir de l'automobile) must be Breizh 5...

City which also host a SIOP marathon Corsaire:

(http://fr.topic-topos.com/image-bd/france/35/marathon-corsaire-loheac.jpg)

Corsaire... then it must be Saint Malo... (but let qwaszx find the picture... I would have never find the SIOP...)


Title: Re: Bro gozh ma zadoù
Post by: Wendax on August 23, 2012, 04:09:00 AM
Quote from: Julien1A on August 23, 2012, 03:57:41 AM
Car 9: Antoine Loheac plastique truck:
though he is from Rouen, Loheac is also a city in brittany...

City which also host a SIOP marathon:

Loheac (manoir de l'automobile) must be Breizh 5...
Yes, c'harr-tan 9 and Breizh 5 are a pair. Loheac transport were building their own trucks. In order to reduce weight they used plastic cabs.
Lohéac also is the village where the Manoir de l'automobile museum is located. There you can find the last surviving SIOP Marathon. Also the Hommell sports cars were built in Lohéac.
Title: Re: Bro gozh ma zadoù
Post by: Wendax on August 23, 2012, 04:10:51 AM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on August 23, 2012, 03:50:10 AM
Featured!

http://www.autopuzzles.com/
Great!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Bro gozh ma zadoù
Post by: qwaszx on August 23, 2012, 02:14:00 PM
OK, SIOP Marathon Corsaire/St Malo Demeure de Corsaire. A rich Merchants house.
Title: Re: Bro gozh ma zadoù
Post by: Wendax on August 23, 2012, 03:29:02 PM
Quote from: qwaszx on August 23, 2012, 02:14:00 PM
OK, SIOP Marathon Corsaire/St Malo Demeure de Corsaire. A rich Merchants house.

Yes, that is the right city. It would be helpful if you name the Breizh picture number.
Title: Re: Bro gozh ma zadoù
Post by: qwaszx on August 23, 2012, 03:51:34 PM
(http://breizh%208.jpg)
although the statue of Surcouf has a different pose...
Title: Re: Bro gozh ma zadoù
Post by: Wendax on August 23, 2012, 04:09:37 PM
Quote from: qwaszx on August 23, 2012, 02:14:00 PM
OK, SIOP Marathon Corsaire/St Malo Demeure de Corsaire. A rich Merchants house.

Well, to call a French corsaire a merchant is kind of euphemistic.  :D
Title: Re: Bro gozh ma zadoù
Post by: qwaszx on August 23, 2012, 04:38:00 PM
french manners :)
Title: Re: Bro gozh ma zadoù
Post by: Wendax on August 30, 2012, 02:22:07 AM
Take a cup of cidre, a crêpe au beurre salé and a kouign amann, put the Bagad de Lann-Bihoue CD into the player and get going, pros!
Title: Re: Bro gozh ma zadoù
Post by: woodinsight on August 30, 2012, 03:19:18 AM
Quote from: Wendax on August 30, 2012, 02:22:07 AM
Take a cup of cidre, a crêpe au beurre salé and a kouign amann, put the Bagad de Lann-Bihoue CD into the player and get going, pros!
Delicious although I'm in the wrong part of the country for that morning delight.

C'harr-tan #5 is a magnificent Saviem Camion Isotherme bodied by Carrosserie Tual at Trédion and matches Breizh #10 the Chateau de Trédion
Title: Re: Bro gozh ma zadoù
Post by: Wendax on August 30, 2012, 03:29:40 AM
Quote from: woodinsight on August 30, 2012, 03:19:18 AM
C'harr-tan #5 is a magnificent Saviem Camion Isotherme bodied by Carrosserie Tual at Trédion and matches Breizh #10 the Chateau de Trédion
Yes, well done.
Title: Re: Bro gozh ma zadoù
Post by: woodinsight on August 30, 2012, 04:02:06 AM
C'harr-tan #8 is a Georges Irat 11CV bodied by Morlaix of Courbevoie that may tie up with Breizh #4 - the Viaduc Ferroviaire at Morlaix?

Please note that I believe the carrossier of the Georges Irat is Carrosserie H. Morlet of Courbevoie and not as stated in some places as Carrosserie Morlaix of Courbevoie.
Perhaps someone can clear up this point.....
Title: Re: Bro gozh ma zadoù
Post by: Wendax on August 30, 2012, 04:14:27 AM
Quote from: woodinsight on August 30, 2012, 04:02:06 AM
C'harr-tan #8 is a Georges Irat 11CV bodied by Morlaix of Courbevoie that may tie up with Breizh #4 - the Viaduc Ferroviaire at Morlaix?
That's what I had in mind.

Quote from: woodinsight on August 30, 2012, 04:02:06 AM
Please note that I believe the carrossier of the Georges Irat is Carrosserie H. Morlet of Courbevoie and not as stated in some places as Carrosserie Morlaix of Courbevoie.
Perhaps someone can clear up this point.....
:bag:
I hadn't heard of a Carrosserie Morlaix before either. It must be Morlet.
Title: Re: Bro gozh ma zadoù
Post by: woodinsight on August 30, 2012, 04:29:08 AM
Thanks Wendax - that clears the Morlaix/Morlet conundrum up now.
Title: Re: Bro gozh ma zadoù
Post by: Tom_I on August 30, 2012, 10:54:09 AM
C'harr-tan #7 is a group of Corbin Merlin roadsters with Harley-Davidson engines, and Breizh #2 is the "Tombeau de Merlin" (Merlin's Tomb), the remains of a neolithic tumulus near Saint-Malon-sur-Mel in Brittany. Here Viviane, "The Lady of the Lake" is supposed to have imprisoned Merlin, the magician of Arthurian legend, after he had taught her all his magic secrets.

Or it could have been at Marlborough Mound in Wiltshire, UK...  ;)
Title: Re: Bro gozh ma zadoù
Post by: woodinsight on August 30, 2012, 12:01:50 PM
C'harr-tan #10 is the Benz driven to victory in the 1908 St. Petersburg to Moscow race by Victor Hémery.
It links with Breizh #7 which is the Nouvelle Gare de Brest, Hémery's birthplace in 1876. (not the station but Brest!)
Title: Re: Bro gozh ma zadoù
Post by: Tom_I on August 30, 2012, 12:51:48 PM
Now I know why I couldn't make the last connection!

Some sources say that Victor Hémery was born in Brest, but others (like the one I looked at) say that he was born in Sillé-le-Guillaume near Le Mans.

I wonder which is right?
Title: Re: Bro gozh ma zadoù
Post by: woodinsight on August 30, 2012, 01:38:38 PM
Quote from: Tom_I on August 30, 2012, 12:51:48 PM
Now I know why I couldn't make the last connection!

Some sources say that Victor Hémery was born in Brest, but others (like the one I looked at) say that he was born in Sillé-le-Guillaume near Le Mans.

I wonder which is right?
Yes Tom I saw that as well but I came across Brest on more occasions than Sillé-le-Guillaume. The connection then was quite straightforward. I don't know which is correct either.
By the way I wouldn't have got the Merlin connection without a great deal more searching.
Title: Re: Bro gozh ma zadoù
Post by: Wendax on August 30, 2012, 03:33:55 PM
Quote from: Tom_I on August 30, 2012, 10:54:09 AM
C'harr-tan #7 is a group of Corbin Merlin roadsters with Harley-Davidson engines, and Breizh #2 is the "Tombeau de Merlin" (Merlin's Tomb), the remains of a neolithic tumulus near Saint-Malon-sur-Mel in Brittany. Here Viviane, "The Lady of the Lake" is supposed to have imprisoned Merlin, the magician of Arthurian legend, after he had taught her all his magic secrets.

Or it could have been at Marlborough Mound in Wiltshire, UK...  ;)
A perfect answer.
Title: Re: Bro gozh ma zadoù
Post by: Wendax on August 30, 2012, 03:35:23 PM
Quote from: woodinsight on August 30, 2012, 12:01:50 PM
C'harr-tan #10 is the Benz driven to victory in the 1908 St. Petersburg to Moscow race by Victor Hémery.
It links with Breizh #7 which is the Nouvelle Gare de Brest, Hémery's birthplace in 1876. (not the station but Brest!)
And the last one is gone, well done!

I guess Hémery's birthplace was destroyed during WW2.
Title: Re: Bro gozh ma zadoù
Post by: Wendax on August 30, 2012, 03:40:37 PM
Quote from: woodinsight on August 30, 2012, 12:01:50 PM
C'harr-tan #10 is the Benz driven to victory in the 1908 St. Petersburg to Moscow race by Victor Hémery.
It links with Breizh #7 which is the Nouvelle Gare de Brest, Hémery's birthplace in 1876. (not the station but Brest!)
Great! I surely create confusing puzzles, sorry for that. According to the German Wikipedia Hémery was born in Brest. But now I see that the French and English Wikipedias have Sillé-le-Guillaume as birthplace. His biographer  Jean-Yves Lassaux confirms the latter one.
Title: Re: Bro gozh ma zadoù
Post by: Wendax on August 30, 2012, 03:48:52 PM
The score totals:

Julien1A: 4 points
woodinsight: 3 points
qwaszx: 1 point
Craig Gillingham: 1 point
Tom_I: 1 point


Kenavo!
Title: Re: Solved: Bro gozh ma zadoù
Post by: woodinsight on August 30, 2012, 03:59:14 PM
Thank you Wendax - I really enjoyed this puzzle!
I hope you'll have some more in this vein in the future....