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Title: Solved: DKW by Bohnstedt & Petersen DK-A1
Post by: Allemano on December 04, 2008, 08:44:53 AM
make, coachbuilder and model please!  :)
Title: Re: 127. of All.
Post by: Allemano on January 03, 2009, 07:26:18 AM
Maybe the wise men know?
Title: Re: 127. of All.
Post by: Allemano on January 18, 2009, 07:10:42 AM
What about the pros of the pros? Not a single guess so far?
Title: Re: 127. of All.
Post by: Ray B. on January 21, 2009, 03:56:34 AM
I suppose it's German and the hood reminds me of a Hansa, but that's all.
Title: Re: 127. of All.
Post by: Allemano on January 21, 2009, 04:55:28 AM
The based car is German, but not the coach!
Title: Re: 127. of All.
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 30, 2009, 06:52:24 PM
Bohnstedt & Petersen DK-A1 made in Danmark on a DKW base.
Title: Re: 127. of All.
Post by: Allemano on January 31, 2009, 02:05:24 AM
I'm out of my mind!  :faint:..what hell did you find this? And why always you and noone else??? :o
A VERY well deserved point though.... :-\ ;D
Title: Re: Solved: DKW by Bohnstedt & Petersen DK-A1
Post by: ftg3plus4 on March 24, 2009, 12:12:33 PM
Allemano - Can you post the unaltered version of the pic?
Title: Re: Solved: DKW by Bohnstedt & Petersen DK-A1
Post by: Allemano on March 24, 2009, 01:40:55 PM
Currently I'm away from home. I hope I won't forget it next weekend.
Don't hesitate to remind me again!  ;)
Title: Re: Solved: DKW by Bohnstedt & Petersen DK-A1
Post by: Paul Jaray on March 24, 2009, 05:00:31 PM
Hope you like it...
Title: Re: Solved: DKW by Bohnstedt & Petersen DK-A1
Post by: ftg3plus4 on March 24, 2009, 07:06:57 PM
Bless you sir!
Title: NEH 1678
Post by: Carnut on March 26, 2012, 07:42:41 AM
What's this, from when - for 1 point?

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Title: Re: NEH 1678
Post by: foxawy on March 26, 2012, 04:25:48 PM
french??
Title: Re: NEH 1678
Post by: Carnut on March 26, 2012, 06:00:04 PM
Quote from: foxawy on March 26, 2012, 04:25:48 PM
french??

No.
Title: Re: NEH 1678
Post by: RayTheRat on March 26, 2012, 11:18:20 PM
Fiat?
Title: Re: NEH 1678
Post by: Carnut on March 27, 2012, 04:26:52 AM
Quote from: RayTheRat on March 26, 2012, 11:18:20 PM
Fiat?


No.
Title: Re: NEH 1678
Post by: RayTheRat on March 31, 2012, 09:42:14 PM
Australian?
Title: Re: NEH 1678
Post by: Carnut on April 01, 2012, 07:49:17 AM
Quote from: RayTheRat on March 31, 2012, 09:42:14 PM
Australian?


No.
Title: Re: NEH 1678
Post by: Carnut on April 02, 2012, 05:20:18 AM
Experts?
Title: Re: NEH 1678
Post by: fyreline on April 02, 2012, 08:02:25 AM
It certainly resembles one of the Fabryka Samochodów Osobowych (FSO) cars such as the Syrena, but the grille isn't quite right. Perhaps a derivative of one of those cars?
Title: Re: NEH 1678
Post by: Carnut on April 02, 2012, 10:13:17 AM
Quote from: fyreline on April 02, 2012, 08:02:25 AM
It certainly resembles one of the Fabryka Samochodów Osobowych (FSO) cars such as the Syrena, but the grille isn't quite right. Perhaps a derivative of one of those cars?

No, it's not Polish.
Title: Re: NEH 1678
Post by: Siata1 on April 02, 2012, 04:09:13 PM
DK Bohnstedt-Petersen, Odense, shown at Copenhagen Motor Show 1950
Title: Re: NEH 1678
Post by: Carnut on April 03, 2012, 04:39:24 AM
Quote from: Siata1 on April 02, 2012, 04:09:13 PM
DK Bohnstedt-Petersen, Odense, shown at Copenhagen Motor Show 1950

It's not the same as I have it as but there are similarities in the name.
Would you like to enlarge on that and its base because you may be on to something?
Title: Re: NEH 1678
Post by: Siata1 on April 03, 2012, 06:28:16 AM
The engine-less prototype was called DKW on the windscreen (Bohnstedt-Petersen assembled the make before WW II). But nobody knew, if an engine by IFA or ILO could be later installed. My source mentions the car as "DK" and "so-called danish DKW", other sources as "DK-W". There was even a later "DKR".
Anyway it is repost (Allemano 127, 2009.)
Title: Re: NEH 1678
Post by: Carnut on April 03, 2012, 07:18:24 AM
Quote from: Siata1 on April 03, 2012, 06:28:16 AM
The engine-less prototype was called DKW on the windscreen (Bohnstedt-Petersen assembled the make before WW II). But nobody knew, if an engine by IFA or ILO could be later installed. My source mentions the car as "DK" and "so-called danish DKW", other sources as "DK-W". There was even a later "DKR".
Anyway it is repost (Allemano 127, 2009.)


Right you are, so it is.  It'll be merged.
Unforutunately I had used that source we spoke about before and this is the information I had to go on!:

QUOTE
Auf einer Messe in Stockholm präsentierte die Firma Philipsons im Frühjahr 1948 diesen Prototyp mit Pontonform und selbsttragender Stahlblech-Karosserie. Technisch basierte auch dieser Wagen auf dem deutschen DKW F-7, die Räder hingen an querliegenden Blattfedern. Im Bug saß der wassergekühlte Zweizylinder 692 ccm-Zweitakt-Motor mit 15 PS, der seine Kraft auf die Vorderräder gab. Philipsons hatte erfahren, dass die schwedische Flugzeugfirma Saab an einem ähnlichen Wagen arbeitete. Im Herbst 1947 war Saab in Ermangelung eines eigenen Händlernetzes an Philipsons herangetreten und bot ihm die Generalvertretung in ganz Schweden für den kommenden Saab 92 an, sofern er sein eigenes Projekt aufgeben würde. Philipsons nahm das Angebot an.


Hersteller: Philipsons, DKW
Personen: Philipsons, DKW
Baujahr: 1948
Leistung (PS): 15
Land: Schweden
UNQUOTE

Which Google-translated (I'm lazy!) means:

QUOTE
At a trade show in Stockholm, the company Philipson presented in spring 1948 with this prototype pontoon shape and self-supporting steel bodywork. Technically, this car also based on the German DKW F-7, and the wheels hung from transverse leaf springs. In the bow of the water-cooled two-cylinder 692 cc two-stroke engine with 15 hp was, who gave his power to the front wheels. Philipson had learned that the Swedish aircraft manufacturer Saab was working on a similar car. In the fall of 1947, Saab was approached in the absence of a separate dealer network to Philipson and offered him the general agent in Sweden for the upcoming Saab 92, if he would give up his own project. Philipson accepted the offer.
UNQUOTE


No mention at all of Denmark or Bohnstedt & Petersen!
A source best avoided in the future (I've already abandoned it for future puzzles..)
Title: Re: Solved: DKW by Bohnstedt & Petersen DK-A1
Post by: woodinsight on April 03, 2012, 01:41:16 PM
There was a Swedish based DKW Saloon built by Philipsons Auto A/B of Stockholm just after WWII - this is NOT the same car and I presume the website where you found the information were using the wrong photo.
Title: Re: NEH 1678
Post by: Wendax on April 03, 2012, 03:04:31 PM
Quote from: Carnut on April 03, 2012, 07:18:24 AM
A source best avoided in the future (I've already abandoned it for future puzzles..)

Don't count on the count baron.  ;)
Title: Re: Solved: DKW by Bohnstedt & Petersen DK-A1
Post by: Carnut on April 06, 2012, 09:26:42 AM
Quote from: woodinsight on April 03, 2012, 01:41:16 PM
There was a Swedish based DKW Saloon built by Philipsons Auto A/B of Stockholm just after WWII - this is NOT the same car and I presume the website where you found the information were using the wrong photo.

Yes, that one has been puzzled here before.
In fact my source had both cars including the correct one, and since they didn't look completely different I thought it quite feasible that this was another DKW-based Philipson.
Title: Re: Solved: DKW by Bohnstedt & Petersen DK-A1
Post by: Wendax on April 13, 2021, 02:58:05 PM
Another picture:
Title: Re: Solved: DKW by Bohnstedt & Petersen DK-A1
Post by: gte4289 on September 30, 2023, 02:06:12 AM
Additional photo: