Solved: DKW by Bohnstedt & Petersen DK-A1

Started by Allemano, December 04, 2008, 08:44:53 AM

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Allemano

make, coachbuilder and model please!  :)

Allemano

Maybe the wise men know?

Allemano

What about the pros of the pros? Not a single guess so far?

Ray B.

I suppose it's German and the hood reminds me of a Hansa, but that's all.
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Allemano

The based car is German, but not the coach!

Paul Jaray

Bohnstedt & Petersen DK-A1 made in Danmark on a DKW base.

Allemano

#6
I'm out of my mind!  :faint:..what hell did you find this? And why always you and noone else??? :o
A VERY well deserved point though.... :-\ ;D

ftg3plus4

Allemano - Can you post the unaltered version of the pic?
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-- Marianne Moore, suggesting a name for what would become the Edsel

Allemano

Currently I'm away from home. I hope I won't forget it next weekend.
Don't hesitate to remind me again!  ;)

Paul Jaray

#9
Hope you like it...

ftg3plus4

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-- Marianne Moore, suggesting a name for what would become the Edsel

Carnut

What's this, from when - for 1 point?

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fyreline

It certainly resembles one of the Fabryka Samochodów Osobowych (FSO) cars such as the Syrena, but the grille isn't quite right. Perhaps a derivative of one of those cars?
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Carnut

Quote from: fyreline on April 02, 2012, 08:02:25 AM
It certainly resembles one of the Fabryka Samochodów Osobowych (FSO) cars such as the Syrena, but the grille isn't quite right. Perhaps a derivative of one of those cars?

No, it's not Polish.
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Siata1

DK Bohnstedt-Petersen, Odense, shown at Copenhagen Motor Show 1950

Carnut

Quote from: Siata1 on April 02, 2012, 04:09:13 PM
DK Bohnstedt-Petersen, Odense, shown at Copenhagen Motor Show 1950

It's not the same as I have it as but there are similarities in the name.
Would you like to enlarge on that and its base because you may be on to something?
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Siata1

The engine-less prototype was called DKW on the windscreen (Bohnstedt-Petersen assembled the make before WW II). But nobody knew, if an engine by IFA or ILO could be later installed. My source mentions the car as "DK" and "so-called danish DKW", other sources as "DK-W". There was even a later "DKR".
Anyway it is repost (Allemano 127, 2009.)

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Quote from: Siata1 on April 03, 2012, 06:28:16 AM
The engine-less prototype was called DKW on the windscreen (Bohnstedt-Petersen assembled the make before WW II). But nobody knew, if an engine by IFA or ILO could be later installed. My source mentions the car as "DK" and "so-called danish DKW", other sources as "DK-W". There was even a later "DKR".
Anyway it is repost (Allemano 127, 2009.)


Right you are, so it is.  It'll be merged.
Unforutunately I had used that source we spoke about before and this is the information I had to go on!:

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Auf einer Messe in Stockholm präsentierte die Firma Philipsons im Frühjahr 1948 diesen Prototyp mit Pontonform und selbsttragender Stahlblech-Karosserie. Technisch basierte auch dieser Wagen auf dem deutschen DKW F-7, die Räder hingen an querliegenden Blattfedern. Im Bug saß der wassergekühlte Zweizylinder 692 ccm-Zweitakt-Motor mit 15 PS, der seine Kraft auf die Vorderräder gab. Philipsons hatte erfahren, dass die schwedische Flugzeugfirma Saab an einem ähnlichen Wagen arbeitete. Im Herbst 1947 war Saab in Ermangelung eines eigenen Händlernetzes an Philipsons herangetreten und bot ihm die Generalvertretung in ganz Schweden für den kommenden Saab 92 an, sofern er sein eigenes Projekt aufgeben würde. Philipsons nahm das Angebot an.


Hersteller: Philipsons, DKW
Personen: Philipsons, DKW
Baujahr: 1948
Leistung (PS): 15
Land: Schweden
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Which Google-translated (I'm lazy!) means:

QUOTE
At a trade show in Stockholm, the company Philipson presented in spring 1948 with this prototype pontoon shape and self-supporting steel bodywork. Technically, this car also based on the German DKW F-7, and the wheels hung from transverse leaf springs. In the bow of the water-cooled two-cylinder 692 cc two-stroke engine with 15 hp was, who gave his power to the front wheels. Philipson had learned that the Swedish aircraft manufacturer Saab was working on a similar car. In the fall of 1947, Saab was approached in the absence of a separate dealer network to Philipson and offered him the general agent in Sweden for the upcoming Saab 92, if he would give up his own project. Philipson accepted the offer.
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No mention at all of Denmark or Bohnstedt & Petersen!
A source best avoided in the future (I've already abandoned it for future puzzles..)
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