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Title: Solved - MJW #940 - DaVinci Saloon by Fleetwood 1925
Post by: woodinsight on June 11, 2012, 01:23:21 PM
Identify this interesting car by providing the marque, year and coachbuilder for one point.
Title: Re: MJW #940
Post by: Manuel on June 12, 2012, 03:08:18 AM
Minerva
Title: Re: MJW #940
Post by: woodinsight on June 12, 2012, 06:20:44 AM
Not a Minerva.......a more obscure make than that
Title: Re: MJW #940
Post by: woodinsight on June 19, 2012, 04:04:56 PM
Experts turn now...
Title: Re: MJW #940
Post by: Craig Gillingham on June 22, 2012, 03:52:33 AM
I think it's made in America, around 1923. How about a Stutz?
Title: Re: MJW #940
Post by: woodinsight on June 22, 2012, 11:49:32 AM
Quote from: Craig Gillingham on June 22, 2012, 03:52:33 AM
I think it's made in America, around 1923. How about a Stutz?
You're proceeding in the correct direction with this one Craig.
It is American, it's a little younger than 1923 but it's not a Stutz however there is a Stutz connection to this car.
I'm going to LOCK it for you until your next reply.
Title: Re: MJW #940
Post by: Craig Gillingham on June 22, 2012, 07:59:01 PM
I can't say I really have much idea, I'll suggest a National, just because it's from Indianapolis, like a Stutz. For the year, 1925? This car has a very distinctive peak on the bonnet, and those bonnet louvers should help identify the car, but I can't seem to find anything similar. It looks like it would have been an expensive car when it was new.
Title: Re: MJW #940
Post by: woodinsight on June 23, 2012, 04:36:06 AM
Quote from: Craig Gillingham on June 22, 2012, 07:59:01 PM
I can't say I really have much idea, I'll suggest a National, just because it's from Indianapolis, like a Stutz. For the year, 1925? This car has a very distinctive peak on the bonnet, and those bonnet louvers should help identify the car, but I can't seem to find anything similar. It looks like it would have been an expensive car when it was new.
1925 is correct but it's not a National.
Thanks Craig but I'll open it up again now.
Title: Re: MJW #940
Post by: dracu777 on June 26, 2012, 12:55:25 PM
Is it a Franklin?
Title: Re: MJW #940
Post by: RayTheRat on June 26, 2012, 06:15:33 PM
1925 Isotta-Fraschini 8A Town Brougham by Fleetwood, built for Rudolph Valentino, who died before taking delivery.

After further review, make that a 1925 DaVinci by Fleetwood, built for James Scripps-Booth.  I found a very interesting story on Scripps-Booth and the car that essentially said he dumped a buncha money into "the best car in the world" and after pitching it to Stutz (who seemed interested) found that they stole many of his ideas.  He kept the car for a long time and in went thru several metamorphoses, but retained the sleeve-valve motor that he got from Argyll of Scotland.  I'd never heard the story before. 

RtR

Title: Re: MJW #940
Post by: RayTheRat on June 26, 2012, 09:19:33 PM
 :bump:
Title: Re: MJW #940
Post by: RayTheRat on June 28, 2012, 08:50:11 PM
1925 DaVinci by Fleetwood?
Title: Re: MJW #940
Post by: woodinsight on July 02, 2012, 04:39:22 PM
Quote from: RayTheRat on June 28, 2012, 08:50:11 PM
1925 DaVinci by Fleetwood?

Apologies for the delay Ray but I've had an internet connection problem for the last week.
Good news for you though - it is a 1925 DaVinci Saloon by Fleetwood - and another point for you.
Title: Re: Solved - MJW #940 - DaVinci Saloon by Fleetwood 1925
Post by: RayTheRat on July 02, 2012, 10:09:19 PM
No problem, man.  Thanks for the point.
Title: Forgotten(?) Classic #271
Post by: Otto Puzzell on July 22, 2012, 07:44:52 AM
A happy man, proud of his handiwork  

For one point: identify the this automobile, and the behind it (and in front of it, in this photo).

Only a complete and specific answer will earn a point!  

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Title: Re: Forgotten(?) Classic #271
Post by: frederick59 on July 22, 2012, 03:09:37 PM
Mathis?
Title: Re: Forgotten(?) Classic #271
Post by: Otto Puzzell on July 22, 2012, 04:20:52 PM
Quote from: frederick59 on July 22, 2012, 03:09:37 PM
Mathis?

No sir
Title: Re: Forgotten(?) Classic #271
Post by: frederick59 on July 23, 2012, 05:15:00 PM
is it europeen?
Title: Re: Forgotten(?) Classic #271
Post by: Otto Puzzell on July 23, 2012, 05:15:38 PM
I'm quite embarrassed - this is a re-post of a puzzle solved just weeks ago.

Merged   :bag:
Title: Re: Solved - MJW #940 - DaVinci Saloon by Fleetwood 1925
Post by: RayTheRat on July 23, 2012, 06:55:46 PM
But there's the rest of the question:  I bleeve it's James Scripps Booth, the project backer; the car was built by Louis Chevrolet and the body was built by Fleetwood.
Title: Re: Solved - MJW #940 - DaVinci Saloon by Fleetwood 1925
Post by: Otto Puzzell on July 24, 2012, 04:56:49 AM
Quote from: RayTheRat on July 23, 2012, 06:55:46 PM
But there's the rest of the question:  I bleeve it's James Scripps Booth, the project backer; the car was built by Louis Chevrolet and the body was built by Fleetwood.


Booth was ID'd in your previous solution, above. While this was built in Chevrolet's Indy shop, I don't know if he ever touched it.
Title: Re: Solved - MJW #940 - DaVinci Saloon by Fleetwood 1925
Post by: ftg3plus4 on July 24, 2012, 07:40:38 AM
Any chance the pic without the man's face hidden (and any less obvious mods) can be posted?
Title: Re: Solved - MJW #940 - DaVinci Saloon by Fleetwood 1925
Post by: Otto Puzzell on July 24, 2012, 07:59:58 AM
I'll post one tomorrow.
Title: Re: Solved - MJW #940 - DaVinci Saloon by Fleetwood 1925
Post by: Otto Puzzell on July 25, 2012, 05:43:27 AM
Here is an un-retouched photo, without the subtle and tasteful modifications.