Solved - NEH 1643: Eigenbau built by Karl-Günther Bechem on crashed AFM 50 -1950

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March 09, 2012, 06:34:55 AM Last Edit: November 13, 2012, 09:19:39 AM by Carnut
Identify this car correctly for 1 point:

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RayTheRat

#1
March 09, 2012, 11:41:59 AM
It sure looks like a 1950 Veritas as raced in 1950s SCCA events.

Carnut

#2
March 09, 2012, 12:02:49 PM
Quote from: RayTheRat on March 09, 2012, 11:41:59 AM
It sure looks like a 1950 Veritas as raced in 1950s SCCA events.

It's not a Veritas I'm afraid.
But you're not a million miles away.
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RayTheRat

#3
March 09, 2012, 12:38:23 PM
Well, since the Veritas was based on the BMW 328, that'd be the logical guess....1941 or so.

Carnut

#4
March 09, 2012, 01:40:54 PM
Quote from: RayTheRat on March 09, 2012, 12:38:23 PM
Well, since the Veritas was based on the BMW 328, that'd be the logical guess....1941 or so.

No, it's not a BMW either..
Bit later than 1941.
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RayTheRat

#5
March 10, 2012, 01:58:43 PM
I haven't given up quite yet.  Still looking thru my archives.

Carnut

#6
March 16, 2012, 06:09:28 AM
Experts?
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Tackitt

#7
March 16, 2012, 09:26:41 AM
It is a BMW 328-derived racing car, right?

Tackitt

#8
March 16, 2012, 09:32:37 AM
Would this be considered an 'Eigenbau'?

Carnut

#9
March 16, 2012, 10:35:37 AM
Quote from: Tackitt on March 16, 2012, 09:32:37 AM
Would this be considered an 'Eigenbau'?

No!
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D-type

#10
March 16, 2012, 04:11:54 PM
Meteor ?
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Carnut

#11
March 16, 2012, 04:46:27 PM
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D-type

#12
March 16, 2012, 06:15:27 PM
AFM?
Duncan Rollo

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Carnut

#13
March 16, 2012, 07:44:10 PM
Quote from: D-type on March 16, 2012, 06:15:27 PM
AFM?

Yes, it's an AFM!
Now, which one and which year?
You may also tell me who was driving it in the picture and at which race as well, although that's not vital for the point!
Locked for you to start digging.
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D-type

#14
March 17, 2012, 01:23:48 PM
1951  AFM 50 Sport BMW

Possibly driven by Karl-Günther Bechem (D)  at Hockenheim
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Carnut

#15
March 17, 2012, 01:56:46 PM Last Edit: March 19, 2012, 07:01:19 AM by Carnut
Quote from: D-type on March 17, 2012, 01:23:48 PM
1951  AFM 50 Sport BMW

Possibly driven by Karl-Günther Bechem (D)  at Hockenheim

Yes, that's exactly what it is.
As driven by Karl-Günther Bechem in the 2000cc/1500cc Sports Car Race at Hockenheim in 1951.
Very good.

Quote from: Tackitt on March 16, 2012, 09:26:41 AM
It is a BMW 328-derived racing car, right?

Sincere apologies Tackitt but I hadn't spotted this reply, only your following one.
It might have helped you had I replied to this; sorry.
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Carnut

#16
March 19, 2012, 07:02:34 AM Last Edit: April 04, 2012, 04:34:16 AM by Carnut
Some more pics:

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Carnut

#18
April 03, 2012, 04:46:02 AM
Quote from: Wendax on April 03, 2012, 03:21:46 AM
This seems to be the same one: http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=4600.0

It does seem to be, although it looks to be different bodywork in my puzzle without the streamlined headrest.
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faksta

#19
April 04, 2012, 04:23:01 AM
Quote from: Carnut on March 16, 2012, 10:35:37 AM
Quote from: Tackitt on March 16, 2012, 09:32:37 AM
Would this be considered an 'Eigenbau'?

No!

In fact, from what I know, it IS an 'eigenbau'. Bechem bought the remains of a crashed AFM single seater in which Karl Gommann was killed and built this sportscar upon them, so it's not a 'works' AFM car, but a special based on one.

woodinsight

#20
April 04, 2012, 04:27:40 AM
Yes, I have it on my database as the Bechem-AFM Eigenbau 1951/52.

Carnut

#21
April 04, 2012, 04:34:59 AM
Quote from: woodinsight on April 04, 2012, 04:27:40 AM
Yes, I have it on my database as the Bechem-AFM Eigenbau 1951/52.

Oh dear, so I was wrong.  Sorry Tackitt.
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mekubb

#22
November 12, 2012, 05:36:18 PM Last Edit: May 01, 2020, 10:04:11 AM by Wendax
For 1 point : what's this, from when and where was the picture taken ?

RayTheRat

#23
November 12, 2012, 07:48:59 PM
I swear this is a duplicate, but I can't find it.  1949 Veritas Meteor at the Sachsenring?

RayTheRat

#24
November 12, 2012, 09:05:51 PM
Scratch that.  It's the AFM 50-BMW probably at the Nurburgring.
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