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Title: Solved - NEH 2108: Skoda 932 prototype - 1934
Post by: Carnut on September 26, 2012, 07:14:35 AM
What's this, from when - for 1 point?:

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Title: Re: NEH 2108
Post by: Carnut on October 03, 2012, 05:52:57 AM
Experts?
Title: Re: NEH 2108
Post by: frederick59 on October 03, 2012, 12:14:30 PM
Citroen traction base?
Title: Re: NEH 2108
Post by: Carnut on October 04, 2012, 04:14:48 AM
Citroen traction base?

Non!
Title: Re: NEH 2108
Post by: Zerk on October 11, 2012, 09:13:15 AM
If I was to guess Riley, how far off would I be?
Title: Re: NEH 2108
Post by: Carnut on October 11, 2012, 09:36:19 AM
If I was to guess Riley, how far off would I be?

Quite a long way I'm afraid!
Title: Re: NEH 2108
Post by: RayTheRat on October 11, 2012, 10:51:28 AM
Italian?
Title: Re: NEH 2108
Post by: Carnut on October 11, 2012, 11:29:19 AM
Italian?


Nope..
Title: Re: NEH 2108
Post by: hugo90 on October 12, 2012, 07:24:52 PM
Skoda?
Title: Re: NEH 2108
Post by: Carnut on October 13, 2012, 07:43:16 AM
Skoda?

Yes!
Locked for you for 48 hours to find out a bit more..
Title: Re: NEH 2108
Post by: Carnut on October 15, 2012, 05:12:06 AM
48 hours have passed so this is open again..
Title: Re: NEH 2108
Post by: RayTheRat on October 16, 2012, 03:13:25 AM
1934 Skoda Popular?
Title: Re: NEH 2108
Post by: Carnut on October 16, 2012, 04:31:31 AM
1934 Skoda Popular?


No, it's not a Popular and not from 1934..
Title: Re: NEH 2108
Post by: thorax on October 16, 2012, 05:59:15 AM
Skoda Rapid (1937)?
Title: Re: NEH 2108
Post by: Carnut on October 16, 2012, 06:08:20 AM
Skoda Rapid (1937)?


No, not a Rapid and not from 1937.
Title: Re: NEH 2108
Post by: thorax on October 18, 2012, 04:43:45 PM
mmm .... the front seems to be the Sagitta: the one you post is a production car? I've a little book about Skoda cars but no mention about this one in the standard production
Title: Re: NEH 2108
Post by: sixtee5cuda on October 18, 2012, 04:51:31 PM
Seems to be the 1937 Skoda Sagitta prototype.  (Just to summarize what others have said)
Title: Re: NEH 2108
Post by: Carnut on October 21, 2012, 07:26:45 AM
Well, I have it as earlier than 1937 and no mention of Sagitta where I found it, but I will check.
It is a prototype, not a production model.
Title: Re: NEH 2108
Post by: thorax on October 21, 2012, 02:50:08 PM
Skoda 932?
Title: Re: NEH 2108
Post by: Carnut on October 22, 2012, 06:29:48 AM
Skoda 932?

Aha - we're making progress!
Locked for you to expand on it.
Title: Re: NEH 2108
Post by: Carnut on October 26, 2012, 05:06:03 AM
Skoda 932?

Aha - we're making progress!
Locked for you to expand on it.

You've had the lock for 4 days now so I'll just give you it for another 24 hours then if you haven't replied it'll be moved to the Pro's and opened to all again, which would be a pity as you're almost there!

Here's another picture of this car to help you along:

Title: Re: NEH 2108
Post by: thorax on October 26, 2012, 11:26:39 AM
you can unlock because I cannot find more infos about this Skoda 932
Title: Re: NEH 2108
Post by: Carnut on October 26, 2012, 11:58:49 AM
you can unlock because I cannot find more infos about this Skoda 932

Well, I'll give you the full 24 hours because you're nearly there and it's not difficult to find the rest...
Title: Re: NEH 2108
Post by: thorax on October 26, 2012, 04:03:20 PM
thanks!
some sources named it "Skoda 932 Prototype" (1934) such as another prototype designed two years before:

 
Title: Re: NEH 2108
Post by: Carnut on October 27, 2012, 07:51:39 AM
thanks!
some sources named it "Skoda 932 Prototype" (1934) such as another prototype designed two years before:

 

It is indeed a 932 prototype, but not from 1934 (see my reply #12).
Have another go at the year!
Title: Re: NEH 2108
Post by: thorax on October 27, 2012, 09:22:57 AM
1935?
Title: Re: NEH 2108
Post by: Carnut on October 27, 2012, 01:12:59 PM
1935?

Other way..
Title: Re: NEH 2108
Post by: Bill Murray on October 27, 2012, 05:48:59 PM
This is perhaps too obvious, but the 932 designation indicates the year 1932 based on my research.

If so, give the point to Thorax, he did all the background work.  I did the same review, but he indicated
the way to go.
Title: Re: NEH 2108
Post by: Carnut on October 27, 2012, 07:05:53 PM
This is perhaps too obvious, but the 932 designation indicates the year 1932 based on my research.

If so, give the point to Thorax, he did all the background work.  I did the same review, but he indicated
the way to go.

Yes, that's the right answer, although I'd rather thorax had given it..
So it's a point to thorax and solved.
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 2108: Skoda 932 prototype - 1932
Post by: RayTheRat on October 27, 2012, 10:59:22 PM
I'm not trying to discredit anything that anyone else has found, but I'm confused.  There are several places on the web (and we all know how reliable (or not) that can be) that show the puzzle photo and label it as a 1937 model.  Then there are numerous sites that show another cars a (supposedly) a model 932 prototype.  I've attached a couple of 'em.  I'm just trying to make sense of what I've run across in that great "encyclopedia in the clouds" of the internet.

First is what seems to be a bi-directional model...that is, I can barely tell the back from the front.  I know, the front is on the left side of the photo.  Many web sites indicate that this is a 1932 Model 932 prototype.  What is it really, if the puzzle car is a 1932 model 932 prototype?  Are they both "test shots" of the same car done in the same year? 

Any help in understanding this mess would be greatly appreciated.

RtR
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 2108: Skoda 932 prototype - 1932
Post by: Wendax on October 28, 2012, 02:45:40 AM
The puzzle car definitely is a Skoda 932, but it is the version that was displayed at the Prague Autosalon in April 1934 according to Skoda Auto Media Portal. The 1932 version is the rounded dark one.
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 2108: Skoda 932 prototype - 1932
Post by: Bill Murray on October 28, 2012, 06:38:41 AM
Well, this is a bit embarrassing for me as I made such a positive
ID statement.  As Ray says, we are always at the mercy of the
Internet when it comes to using secondary sources and I found several
that said the originally posted car was a 1932 model.  It was also described
as a 1934 model in a couple of places but I did not trust the sources as much.

In any case, Wendax seems to have found the proper answer from probably
the best primary source we could ask for.  I am still trying to get registered
on the Skoda Portal to get further information but it is a little slow accepting
my registration.

Again, sorry for the error.  Thorax had put a lot of effort into this one and I
was just trying to be helpful.
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 2108: Skoda 932 prototype - 1932
Post by: RayTheRat on October 28, 2012, 11:39:55 AM
Thanks to Wendax and Bill for clarification.  I'd made the leap of assumption (not a good thing) that the model number related to the year of manufacture of the concept/prototype.  It seems now that that may sometimes be the case, but not always.

Maybe Carnut could change the Subject to state "first displayed in 1934" or something like that in the interests of accuracy.  But then it's his puzzle, so having said that, I'll keep my nose out of it from here on.

Thanks again,

RtR
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 2108: Skoda 932 prototype - 1932
Post by: Carnut on October 28, 2012, 12:10:30 PM
Clear as mud eh?!
I must say it looked awfully modern to me for a 1932 prototype, but delving into it on some apparently very knowledgeable Skoda sites I got the same answer.

However, 1934 seems much more likely and looking at Wendax's evidence is probably the right answer; to be honest 1937 looks even more likely to me, but it is a prototype and maybe it just looked advanced.
Changing the title to 1934 and hope we've cracked it!

Thanks for the input everyone.
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 2108: Skoda 932 prototype - 1934
Post by: milos62 on October 29, 2012, 04:32:39 AM
ŠKODA type 932  / 1500 cc SV/ " Kadlomobil" . Type 932, an indication of the year of the project.
Made about 3 piece. 1 car -  1932. 2 cars + 1 engine - 1934.
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 2108: Skoda 932 prototype - 1934
Post by: Carnut on October 29, 2012, 04:52:49 AM
ŠKODA type 932  / 1500 cc SV/ " Kadlomobil" . Type 932, an indication of the year of the project.
Made about 3 piece. 1 car -  1932. 2 cars + 1 engine - 1934.

So there we have it!  1932 was right..

Thanks milos.
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 2108: Skoda 932 prototype - 1934
Post by: Wendax on October 29, 2012, 05:11:26 AM
So there we have it!  1932 was right..
???
ŠKODA type 932  / 1500 cc SV/ " Kadlomobil" . Type 932, an indication of the year of the project.
Made about 3 piece.

1 car -  1932. 
The dark, rounded one.
[2 cars + 1 engine - 1934.
The puzzle car.

Title: Re: Solved - NEH 2108: Skoda 932 prototype - 1932/4
Post by: Carnut on October 29, 2012, 05:12:53 AM
Oh... It's changed again then..
Any more contributions?!