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João · March 29, 2012, 11:57:05 AM

Allemano, you were guessing the odd one out or the book with car number 38?

Paul Jaray · March 29, 2012, 02:39:16 PM

Quote from: João on March 29, 2012, 11:57:05 AM
Allemano, you were guessing the odd one out or the book with car number 38?

Ok, I think someone made a mistake.
It can be solved only with fairplay.
Allemano, if your guess was that book #29 is the one from which I did not take a pic, you are twice wrong, 1st because it's not, 2nd because that is a bonus point to be found at the final part of the puzzle...if you meant that João match was wrong and you gave the right book you can keep the point.
João, if your previous guess was just a typo and you meant book #29, the point will be yours if Allemano was guessing at the "left out" book.

Man, that' harder than expected!

Oswald · March 29, 2012, 03:41:31 PM

Picture #11 comes from book # 14. It's the Sautenet three-wheeler with JAP engine

Otto Puzzell · March 29, 2012, 03:45:17 PM

Quote from: Paul Jaray on March 25, 2012, 05:14:25 PM
SACO, read the rules in the 1st post of this puzzle, please!
Only 1 guess per day is allowed.

Once I'm convinced this works, I'll move my puzzle to the pro level.

Paul Jaray · March 29, 2012, 04:12:56 PM

Quote from: Oswald on March 29, 2012, 03:41:31 PM
Picture #11 comes from book # 14. It's the Sautenet three-wheeler with JAP engine

Correct!

Quote from: Otto Puzzell on March 29, 2012, 03:45:17 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on March 25, 2012, 05:14:25 PM
SACO, read the rules in the 1st post of this puzzle, please!
Only 1 guess per day is allowed.

Once I'm convinced this works, I'll move my puzzle to the pro level.

I deleted his reply.

Otto Puzzell · March 29, 2012, 05:17:47 PM

I was having a bit of fun with the entire concept, not poking fun at anybody. You are to be lauded for taking this concept to the big leagues, and keeping track of all of the twists and turns.

Paul Jaray · March 29, 2012, 05:23:33 PM

Thanks, it's a game, but sometimes looks like a challenge!

jotage21 · March 30, 2012, 10:20:13 AM

book 32, car 9 - miniature car watch (Reloj Miniatura)

Wendax · March 30, 2012, 03:03:59 PM

Book 9 - Car 18, a 1908 Deutz-Bugatti

Paul Jaray · March 30, 2012, 03:11:33 PM

Quote from: jotage21 on March 30, 2012, 10:20:13 AM
book 32, car 9 - miniature car watch (Reloj Miniatura)

I was going to change that pic because it was too hard!
Well done!

Quote from: Wendax on March 30, 2012, 03:03:59 PM
Book 9 - Car 18, a 1908 Deutz-Bugatti

The caption says something slightly different (but my german is not like yours...

)
Locked for you.

Ok, there's just one match left, the bonus point #1 (book left out) is available FOR ALL, without restriction.
Bonus point #2 (title of this puzzle) 24h after the last correct match.

Oguerrerob · March 30, 2012, 03:22:01 PM

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Paul Jaray · March 30, 2012, 03:30:53 PM

Please READ before post...

Quote from: Paul Jaray on March 30, 2012, 03:11:33 PM
Quote from: jotage21 on March 30, 2012, 10:20:13 AM
book 32, car 9 - miniature car watch (Reloj Miniatura)
I was going to change that pic because it was too hard!
Well done!
Quote from: Wendax on March 30, 2012, 03:03:59 PM
Book 9 - Car 18, a 1908 Deutz-Bugatti
The caption says something slightly different (but my german is not like yours... )
Locked for you.

Ok, there's just one match left, the bonus point #1 (book left out) is available FOR ALL, without restriction.
Bonus point #2 (title of this puzzle) 24h after the last correct match.

Paul Jaray · March 30, 2012, 03:31:23 PM

I'll return to the classic puzzles, I swear!

Wendax · March 30, 2012, 03:33:42 PM

Since there is no restriction I have a 50 percent chance:

The left out book is #39.

Wendax · March 30, 2012, 03:43:35 PM

Quote from: Paul Jaray on March 30, 2012, 03:11:33 PM
Quote from: Wendax on March 30, 2012, 03:03:59 PM
Book 9 - Car 18, a 1908 Deutz-Bugatti
The caption says something slightly different (but my german is not like yours... )
Locked for you.

I only have the first edition (1965) of this book where there is another picture of a very similar car, described as a Deutz-Bugatti Typ 8a from 1908. So it was an educated guess. You can find the very puzzle picture as part of a publicity of the Gasmotorenfabrik Deutz online, described as Deutz Bugatti without a year. I won't be able to have a look at the actual edition of the puzzle book before next Wednesday. So you can decide to unlock or not.

Paul Jaray · March 30, 2012, 03:57:43 PM

Quote from: Wendax on March 30, 2012, 03:33:42 PM
Since there is no restriction I have a 50 percent chance:

The left out book is #39.

That wasn't hard, was it?

Now, you know the book and there's just one car left....

Quote from: Wendax on March 30, 2012, 03:43:35 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on March 30, 2012, 03:11:33 PM
Quote from: Wendax on March 30, 2012, 03:03:59 PM
Book 9 - Car 18, a 1908 Deutz-Bugatti
The caption says something slightly different (but my german is not like yours... )
Locked for you.

I only have the first edition (1965) of this book where there is another picture of a very similar car, described as a Deutz-Bugatti Typ 8a from 1908. So it was an educated guess. You can find the very puzzle picture as part of a publicity of the Gasmotorenfabrik Deutz online, described as Deutz Bugatti without a year. I won't be able to have a look at the actual edition of the puzzle book before next Wednesday. So you can decide to unlock or not.

The car is a Deutz Bugatti Limousine by XXX, the year is not 1908.
It's locked for you to guess the coachbuilder (do not count the Xs) and the year.

Paul Jaray · March 30, 2012, 04:07:03 PM

READ CAREFULLY
You can all* guess at car 33 like a regular puzzle, now.

*All but Oguerrerob, Wendax (who can guess at the missing bits of car 18) and Jotage21...they will wait 24h from their last replies.

After I'll declare solved the last ID, then EVERYONE will have a go at the bonus point left.

Wendax · March 30, 2012, 04:27:03 PM

Quote from: Paul Jaray on March 30, 2012, 03:57:43 PM
The car is a Deutz Bugatti Limousine by XXX, the year is not 1908.
It's locked for you to guess the coachbuilder (do not count the Xs) and the year.

The body was made by Utermöhle in Cologne, the year probably 1909.

Paul Jaray · March 30, 2012, 04:32:51 PM

...another educated guess?

Correct!

Wendax · March 30, 2012, 04:37:25 PM

Quote from: Paul Jaray on March 30, 2012, 04:32:51 PM
...another educated guess?
Correct!

More educated than guess

Utermöhle was the nearest coachbuilder to Deutz and they had the solitary sales rights for the Deutz-Bugatti. Ettore Bugatti was at Deutz from 1907 to 1909, the production started in 1908, so 1909 wasn't too bad a guess.

pnegyesi · April 01, 2012, 01:37:41 AM

Car 33: Belga Rise?

Paul Jaray · April 01, 2012, 05:58:24 AM

Not that...it's quite easy once you find the right questions...
Open for all, no time limit..

Wendax · April 01, 2012, 06:00:40 AM

Eight cylinder prototype by an established manufacturer?

Paul Jaray · April 01, 2012, 06:02:10 AM

Quote from: Wendax on April 01, 2012, 06:00:40 AM
Eight cylinder prototype by an established manufacturer?

Yes and No.

pnegyesi · April 01, 2012, 06:14:39 AM

Related to a German company?

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