Solved: PN #221 -- Cadillac V-63, 1924 at the 1925 Hungarian Touring Race

[pnegyesi]

Are you sure it is not a GM-brand?

[Otto Puzzell]

I didn't get a response to Pontiac / Oakland, so I assumed I was off-base

[pnegyesi]

It is not a Pontiac/Oakland

[Otto Puzzell]

Thanks!

Since Buick was headed in the right direction, let's try Marquette

[pnegyesi]

No, something bigger

[Otto Puzzell]

One up from Buick was LaSalle...

[Otto Puzzell]

Strike that - they weren't around pre- 1927.

How about a 1924 Cadillac V-63? They could be had with disc wheels, though I cannot find a picture of one with that option

[pnegyesi]

And that is my opinion too. Inititally I was confused because I thought the picture was taken in 1924. But now I firmly believe this was taken in 1925 at the Hungarian Touring Race - a journey through Hungary. Antal Palugyai started with starting number No5, a Cadillac.

So a very well earned point for Otto.

[RayTheRat]

I'm confused...as usual.  And I sure don't want to cause trouble for Otto.  But did the question refer to the car with the number "5" on the cowl or the one behind it?  If it's the car in front, while there are many similarities to a 1924 Cadillac, but I can't find one with the sharp edge to the hood as the top of it meets the louvered sides.  I've attached a photo of a 1924 Caddy V-63 touring car (phaeton) and it looks more like the car in the rear.  It has artillery wheels, but as Otto pointed out, I believe disc wheels were available at that time.  The 24 Caddy was a pretty advanced car in its time, with a 90-degree V8 and 4-wheel brakes (even if they WERE mechanical) and would have been a very good choice for a touring race.  There are many photos of this year/model of Cadillac on a well-known web site that deals with motion pictures.

One possible answer is bespoke coachwork, but I'm not familiar with many that changed the shape of the grill shell and, as a result, the lines of the hood.  I hope I'm mistaken as well as confused and someone can enlighten me.

Thanks,

RtR

[pnegyesi]

The puzzle car was indeed car Number 5 and I am just as confused as you are. I hope it is a Cadillac as it has an American flag on its nose, which would correspond to my theory of a Cadillac which raced with starting number No5 at the 1925 Hungarian Touring Race.
I don't have many entry lists from that period, but I know that the picture was taken between 1924-1926 and I have not seen too many American cars racing at that time.

[Otto Puzzell]

Tryin' to snarf my point, are ya? 

[RayTheRat]

Tryin' to snarf my point, are ya? 

Like I said, I didn't wanna cause trouble for ya.  The only points I wanna snarf are the ones yer givin away.