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Title: Solved: Raymond Mays in a Brescia Bugatti at Caerphilly Mountain hill-climb
Post by: Tackitt on January 01, 2012, 05:35:52 AM
My previous entry did not come up on a search but is a repost. Soooooo,
An easy racing picture.  Who is it? What's he driving and what event is obviously no longer winning?
Title: Re: Tackitt4
Post by: Tackitt on January 13, 2012, 10:53:58 PM
No takers?  Movin' up.
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Post by: M630 on January 14, 2012, 04:25:28 AM
Raymond Mays
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Post by: shamrock on January 14, 2012, 04:27:07 AM
Raymond Mays , Bugatti Brescia ( Cordon Rouge) at Shelsley Walsh hillclimb
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Post by: D-type on January 14, 2012, 10:36:14 AM
Despite what the "Bugatti" website says, Shelsley Walsh is in England not Wales.  Why can't they check their facts!  :sigh:
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Post by: Tackitt on January 14, 2012, 10:13:21 PM
Because they own Bugattis, they don't have to.

Shamrock's got it!
Title: Re: Solved: Raymond Mays in a Brescia Bugatti at Shelsey Walsh
Post by: Allan L on January 15, 2012, 04:41:03 AM
Sorry, but. . . .

It is not Shelsley Walsh - nowhere is it curved and flat like that.
This is such a well-known photo that I am surprised it took so long to identify, and then seems to be wrong twice.
In Mays' book "Split Seconds" (G.T. Foulis, 1951) facing page 37 it is captioned:
A 1924 incident during the Caerphilly Mountain hill-climb. The car is Mays' second Brescia Bugatti "Cordon Bleu"
what's more the photo shares a page with a static shot of "Cordon Rouge" in which the driver sits lower in a car with a higher bonnet and a radiator with a wider surround.
Title: Re: Solved: Raymond Mays in a Brescia Bugatti at Shelsey Walsh
Post by: Tackitt on January 15, 2012, 07:27:44 AM
It took me half the day and God knows how many websites I looked at before I found someone who agreed with you.
This from Granger.com - "WALES: RAYMOND MAYS, 1924. Raymond Mays, driving the Bugatti T13 Brescia, loses his rear wheel and brake drum. Accident at the Caerphilly Mountain Hill climb race in Cardiff, Wales. Photograph, 1924."
So, I am going to assume that you are correct and award you a point also as it would appear that I simply did not bother to dig deep enough though I can't imagine why I would since the "information" was right in front of me.   :scratch:
Title: Re: Solved: Raymond Mays in a Brescia Bugatti at Shelsey Walsh
Post by: Allan L on January 15, 2012, 07:36:47 AM
I think we all know that the qualifications required for posting things on the interweb are zero, and that it is therefore necessary to know who posted something and to know that he/she has reason to be right before accepting anything that you don't otherwise know about yourself.
The source I quoted was a book, and they can be as bad if the publisher has dispensed with editors (as they mostly have these days). In this case the book was "written" by Mays himself, "Edited by Dennis May" so it would be reasonable to accept it's right. The photo also appears in a rather less cut-down form on the Bugatti trust's site.