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Title: Solved - The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Allemano on August 10, 2012, 04:10:53 AM
Here you are two batches of vehicles for difficult terrain.

Identify them and get one point for each.

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Points will be awarded when everything's solved!
Enjoy!  :)


SCORE:

#1 Skogsjan 2000 Soft Trommel

#2 Sisua SA-1631 Prototype Craig Gillingham

#3 Austro-Daimler "Pferd" Craig Gillingham

#4 1966 Porsche Radlader Typ 1808 Wendax

#5 Köpfli Trumpf Craig Gillingham

#6 Normet Variomec LF 090 D Craig Gillingham

#7 KFM Desert Lion Trommel

#8 Albach, Silvator 2000 Craig Gillingham

#9 1996 Eicher 656 VAC Colani Craig Gillingham

#10 1996 Paus Kuli pnegyesi

#11 Astra BM21 (White-Freightliner?) Craig Gillingham

#12 Haulamatic 620 dump truck Trommel
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Otto Puzzell on August 10, 2012, 06:04:03 AM
Wow - there are some real tough ones in this puzzle!
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Allemano on August 10, 2012, 06:31:15 AM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on August 10, 2012, 06:04:03 AM
Wow - there are some real tough ones in this puzzle!
You know, since Autopuzzles I don't believe in the word 'tough' anymore.
However I hope some of these won't get solved too quickly... (http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/Gifs/0002-1.gif)
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Allemano on August 16, 2012, 08:06:26 AM
up a level!
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Craig Gillingham on August 16, 2012, 08:54:45 AM
Firstly, I think this is a great puzzle, thank you for putting it together.

#3 is an 1918 Austro-Daimler Pferd, they were made in agricultural and military versions, I'd say that this is the ag model because it's got a belt pulley.

#5 is a Kopfli Trumpf, made in Switzerland.

#11, I'm not sure about. Is it an Astra BM21? I've found a few photos of this very dumper, and it's suggested it's a BM21, except I can't find any other BM21's that are exactly the same.
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Allemano on August 16, 2012, 09:44:48 AM
Quote from: Craig Gillingham on August 16, 2012, 08:54:45 AM
Firstly, I think this is a great puzzle, thank you for putting it together.

#3 is an 1918 Austro-Daimler Pferd, they were made in agricultural and military versions, I'd say the this is the ag model because it's got a belt pulley.

#5 is a Kopfli Trumpf, made in Switzerland.

#11, I'm not sure about. Is it an Astra BM21? I've found a few photos of this very dumper, and it's suggested it's a BM21, except I can't find any other BM21's that are exactly the same.
Great performance! As the Anglo-Saxons got no "ö" on your keyboards I'm generous and award 3 points so far.

BTW: I included the score list in the initial post now.
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Craig Gillingham on August 16, 2012, 09:48:15 AM
QuoteGreat performance! As the Anglo-Saxons got no "ö" on your keyboards I'm generous and award 3 points so far.
Thank you!

#4, is it German made?
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Allemano on August 16, 2012, 09:53:36 AM
Quote from: Craig Gillingham on August 16, 2012, 09:48:15 AM
QuoteGreat performance! As the Anglo-Saxons got no "ö" on your keyboards I'm generous and award 3 points so far.
Thank you!

#4, is it German made?
:nod:
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Craig Gillingham on August 16, 2012, 10:01:04 AM
#4 O&K L15?
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Allemano on August 16, 2012, 10:03:33 AM
Quote from: Craig Gillingham on August 16, 2012, 10:01:04 AM
#4 O&K L15?
sorry, that's not the one.
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Craig Gillingham on August 16, 2012, 05:06:46 PM
#7 Is it European?
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Allemano on August 16, 2012, 09:21:38 PM
Quote from: Craig Gillingham on August 16, 2012, 05:06:46 PM
#7 Is it European?
Yes it is!
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Trommel on August 17, 2012, 08:27:31 AM
1 is Skogsjan 1088.

7 is a KFM Desert Lion (later MOL TB800).

12 is a Haulamatic 620.
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Allemano on August 17, 2012, 08:57:27 AM
Quote from: Trommel on August 17, 2012, 08:27:31 AM
1 is Skogsjan 1088.

7 is a KFM Desert Lion (later MOL TB800).

12 is a Haulamatic 620.

Impressive...

What made you think it's a Skogsjan? I'm waiting curiousely of your PM.  
(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/Gifs/skeptisch.gif)

BTW: it's NOT that Skogsjan..


KFM Desert Lion and Haulamatic 620 are correct guesses!
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Craig Gillingham on August 17, 2012, 09:42:01 AM
#6 is a Normet Variomec LF 090 D underground dump truck.
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Craig Gillingham on August 17, 2012, 10:04:07 AM
#2 I think is a Sisua A-45
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Allemano on August 17, 2012, 12:53:46 PM
Quote from: Craig Gillingham on August 17, 2012, 09:42:01 AM
#6 is a Normet Variomec LF 090 D underground dump truck.
Right!

Quote from: Craig Gillingham on August 17, 2012, 10:04:07 AM
#2 I think is a Sisua A-45
Close but not exactly...
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Craig Gillingham on August 17, 2012, 05:32:47 PM
QuoteClose but not exactly...

Found it, it's the Sisua SA-1631 Proto V8 GM -78.
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Craig Gillingham on August 17, 2012, 05:39:32 PM
#9, is it German made?
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Craig Gillingham on August 17, 2012, 09:57:55 PM
#8 is an Albach, Silvator 2000? mobile wood chipper.
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Trommel on August 18, 2012, 07:03:46 AM
11 appears to be a White-Freightliner Uni-Body Half-Cab, WHFT/WHFD with a 62 Series cab. Can't find a reference to RHD versions though.
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Craig Gillingham on August 18, 2012, 07:24:14 AM
Quote11 appears to be a White-Freightliner Uni-Body Half-Cab, WHFT/WHFD with a 62 Series cab. Can't find a reference to RHD versions though.

Regrettably, I have to agree. #11 is closer to a White-Freightliner dumper than an Astra.
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Allemano on August 19, 2012, 06:28:11 PM
Quote from: Craig Gillingham on August 17, 2012, 09:57:55 PM
#8 is an Albach, Silvator 2000? mobile wood chipper.
Yes.
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Allemano on August 20, 2012, 01:15:53 AM
Quote from: Craig Gillingham on August 17, 2012, 05:39:32 PM
#9, is it German made?
Yes.
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Trommel on August 20, 2012, 05:43:28 AM
Is #4 a Hanomag?
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Craig Gillingham on August 20, 2012, 05:54:53 AM
#9 is a 1996 Eicher 656 VAC, designed by Von Luigi Collani. I'm not sure if this was a production tractor, or a one off.
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Allemano on August 20, 2012, 06:15:33 AM
Quote from: Trommel on August 20, 2012, 05:43:28 AM
Is #4 a Hanomag?
Not quite..
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Allemano on August 20, 2012, 06:17:30 AM
Quote from: Craig Gillingham on August 20, 2012, 05:54:53 AM
#9 is a 1996 Eicher 656 VAC, designed by Von Luigi Collani. I'm not sure if this was a production tractor, or a one off.
you seem to have a knack for this kind of puzzle.
Right you are!

Apologize, will update the score list soon.
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Allemano on August 20, 2012, 06:23:03 AM
Quote from: Craig Gillingham on August 17, 2012, 05:32:47 PM
QuoteClose but not exactly...

Found it, it's the Sisua SA-1631 Proto V8 GM -78.
Right!
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Craig Gillingham on August 21, 2012, 04:47:06 AM
#4 Did this maker also build tractors?
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Allemano on August 21, 2012, 04:57:45 AM
Quote from: Craig Gillingham on August 21, 2012, 04:47:06 AM
#4 Did this maker also build tractors?
You already know it and you want to confirm? ;D
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Craig Gillingham on August 21, 2012, 05:06:06 AM
QuoteYou already know it and you want to confirm?

No, I don't know what it is. I didn't realise that there were so many different makes of German made loaders. I've looked at a lots and lots of them, and can't find anything similar. I thought it might be a way of narrowing down the make.
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Trommel on August 21, 2012, 05:08:34 AM
If it's "not quite" a Hanomag, it could be a Faun (although I haven't found one similar) ...
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Allemano on August 21, 2012, 05:10:21 AM
They also built tractors, but it's not their main business..
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Allemano on August 21, 2012, 05:12:26 AM
Quote from: Trommel on August 21, 2012, 05:08:34 AM
If it's "not quite" a Hanomag, it could be a Faun (although I haven't found one similar) ...
No.

"not quite" was misleading. It's neither a Hanomag nor has it anything to do with Hanomag.
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Craig Gillingham on August 21, 2012, 05:32:00 AM
#4 Kaelble?
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Trommel on August 21, 2012, 05:35:47 AM
#4 Zettelmeyer?
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Allemano on August 21, 2012, 05:39:27 AM
Quote from: Craig Gillingham on August 21, 2012, 05:32:00 AM
#4 Kaelble?
No.
Quote from: Trommel on August 21, 2012, 05:35:47 AM
#4 Zettelmeyer?
No.
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Allemano on August 27, 2012, 07:13:12 AM
Some crumbs left for Pro's.
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Wendax on August 27, 2012, 07:20:14 AM
I think #1 is a Skogsjan 495.

Was #10 used in mines?
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Allemano on August 27, 2012, 07:32:16 AM
Quote from: Wendax on August 27, 2012, 07:20:14 AM
I think #1 is a Skogsjan 495.

Was #10 used in mines?
#1 is not a Skogsjan 495

#10 was certainly used in mines.
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Wendax on August 27, 2012, 07:36:25 AM
#1: Skogsjan 487?
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Allemano on August 27, 2012, 07:39:07 AM
Quote from: Wendax on August 27, 2012, 07:36:25 AM
#1: Skogsjan 487?
No. It's not only a number..
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Wendax on August 27, 2012, 07:41:22 AM
three digits and an 'XL'?
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Otto Puzzell on August 27, 2012, 07:57:05 AM
Is #4 a Komatsu?
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Allemano on August 27, 2012, 07:59:38 AM
Quote from: Wendax on August 27, 2012, 07:41:22 AM
three digits and an 'XL'?
No. Four digits and a word.
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Allemano on August 27, 2012, 08:00:37 AM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on August 27, 2012, 07:57:05 AM
Is #4 a Komatsu?
Not from them not from there.
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Wendax on August 27, 2012, 08:01:17 AM
I've seen #10 before. If I just knew where...

Was it alternatively powered like fuel-cell?
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Otto Puzzell on August 27, 2012, 08:04:23 AM
Quote from: Allemano on August 27, 2012, 08:00:37 AM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on August 27, 2012, 07:57:05 AM
Is #4 a Komatsu?
Not from them not from there.

A Kawasaki?
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Trommel on August 27, 2012, 08:06:43 AM
#1 must be a Skogsjan 2000 Soft.

#4 is German, is it not?
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Allemano on August 27, 2012, 08:23:35 AM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on August 27, 2012, 08:04:23 AM
Quote from: Allemano on August 27, 2012, 08:00:37 AM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on August 27, 2012, 07:57:05 AM
Is #4 a Komatsu?
Not from them not from there.

A Kawasaki?
with 'not from there' I meant not from Japan at all.


Quote from: Trommel on August 27, 2012, 08:06:43 AM
#1 must be a Skogsjan 2000 Soft.

Right!! The owner was a co-worker of mine when I was working at Frankfurt airport. A fascinating mashine when it wasn't out of order. Just like a dinosaur when it rised in the morning. Unfortunately it was broken almost all the time...
After Skogsjan was overtaken by Caterpillar the project was abandoned. This prototype survived and was sold for a bargain to my colleague who gives it a lot TLC.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGCVsQrgV78


Quote from: Trommel on August 27, 2012, 08:06:43 AM
#4 is German, is it not?
It is!

Quote from: Wendax on August 27, 2012, 08:01:17 AM
I've seen #10 before. If I just knew where...

Was it alternatively powered like fuel-cell?
No,there's nothing special about that plain engine..
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Wendax on August 27, 2012, 08:31:24 AM
Is #10 German?
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Allemano on August 27, 2012, 09:01:31 AM
Quote from: Wendax on August 27, 2012, 08:31:24 AM
Is #10 German?
Yes.
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Wendax on August 27, 2012, 09:33:00 AM
Is #4 a Kramer?
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Allemano on August 27, 2012, 09:34:01 AM
Quote from: Wendax on August 27, 2012, 09:33:00 AM
Is #4 a Kramer?
No.
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Wendax on August 27, 2012, 09:41:25 AM
#4: Does the company still build loaders?
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Allemano on August 27, 2012, 10:18:01 AM
Quote from: Wendax on August 27, 2012, 09:41:25 AM
#4: Does the company still build loaders?
No.
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Trommel on August 27, 2012, 11:18:33 AM
#4 - Demag?
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Allemano on August 27, 2012, 11:27:50 AM
Quote from: Trommel on August 27, 2012, 11:18:33 AM
#4 - Demag?
:shakehead:
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Wendax on August 28, 2012, 02:45:59 AM
#4: Is the company still active?
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Allemano on August 28, 2012, 04:11:53 AM
Quote from: Wendax on August 28, 2012, 02:45:59 AM
#4: Is the company still active?
Yes.
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Trommel on August 29, 2012, 05:27:51 PM
Quote from: Allemano on August 28, 2012, 04:11:53 AM
Quote from: Wendax on August 28, 2012, 02:45:59 AM
#4: Is the company still active?
Yes.

Do they manufacture trucks?
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Allemano on August 29, 2012, 06:22:13 PM
Quote from: Trommel on August 29, 2012, 05:27:51 PM
Quote from: Allemano on August 28, 2012, 04:11:53 AM
Quote from: Wendax on August 28, 2012, 02:45:59 AM
#4: Is the company still active?
Yes.

Do they manufacture trucks?
No.
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Wendax on August 30, 2012, 02:04:30 AM
Quote from: Allemano on August 29, 2012, 06:22:13 PM
Quote from: Trommel on August 29, 2012, 05:27:51 PM
Quote from: Allemano on August 28, 2012, 04:11:53 AM
Quote from: Wendax on August 28, 2012, 02:45:59 AM
#4: Is the company still active?
Yes.

Do they manufacture trucks?
No.
Cranes or excavators?
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Allemano on August 30, 2012, 02:05:21 AM
Neither nor
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Wendax on August 30, 2012, 04:59:21 AM
Do they manufacture anything one could interpret as vehicle?
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Allemano on August 30, 2012, 05:11:10 AM
Quote from: Wendax on August 30, 2012, 04:59:21 AM
Do they manufacture anything one could interpret as vehicle?
I'd say yes.  :lmao:
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Wendax on August 30, 2012, 05:18:00 AM
Do they manufacture construction vehicles?
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Allemano on August 30, 2012, 05:19:31 AM
Quote from: Wendax on August 30, 2012, 05:18:00 AM
Do they manufacture construction vehicles?
No.
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Wendax on August 30, 2012, 05:29:49 AM
Do they build cars?  ???
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Allemano on August 30, 2012, 05:39:15 AM
Quote from: Wendax on August 30, 2012, 05:29:49 AM
Do they build cars?  ???
:thumbsup:
I guess you've made a significant step forward now!
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Wendax on August 30, 2012, 05:44:46 AM
Porsche!

It is the 1966 Porsche Radlader Typ 1808-3, four of them built for Klöckner-Humboldt-Deutz.

Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Allemano on August 30, 2012, 05:48:08 AM
Quote from: Wendax on August 30, 2012, 05:44:46 AM
Porsche!

It is the 1966 Porsche Radlader Typ 1808 01.
Well done Wendax! Once found the right category it was only a matter of time.

01 is only the name of the image I guess.

Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Allemano on August 30, 2012, 05:51:43 AM
Only one left to go!
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Wendax on August 30, 2012, 05:57:04 AM
Quote from: Allemano on August 30, 2012, 05:48:08 AM
Quote from: Wendax on August 30, 2012, 05:44:46 AM
Porsche!
It is the 1966 Porsche Radlader Typ 1808 01.
Well done Wendax! Once found the right category it was only a matter of time.
01 is only the name of the image I guess.
I think so, too. I found Typ 1808-3 mentioned.
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Allemano on September 10, 2012, 06:41:19 AM
Another vehicle of that company behind #10 was posted before on AP.
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Wendax on September 10, 2012, 06:46:52 AM
Any connection to the RMA Amphi-Ranger?
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Allemano on September 10, 2012, 06:50:35 AM
Quote from: Wendax on September 10, 2012, 06:46:52 AM
Any connection to the RMA Amphi-Ranger?
Not that.
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Craig Gillingham on September 12, 2012, 12:17:25 PM
QuoteAnother vehicle of that company behind #10 was posted before on AP.

Do they only build vehicles for mines?
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Allemano on September 12, 2012, 12:20:19 PM
Quote from: Craig Gillingham on September 12, 2012, 12:17:25 PM
QuoteAnother vehicle of that company behind #10 was posted before on AP.

Do they only build vehicles for mines?
Not only according to their website.
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: pnegyesi on September 12, 2012, 12:52:50 PM
No10: is it from Paus?
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Allemano on September 12, 2012, 02:28:28 PM
Quote from: pnegyesi on September 12, 2012, 12:52:50 PM
No10: is it from Paus?
Yes! Locked for you until your next reply.
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: pnegyesi on September 12, 2012, 03:11:11 PM
It is probably a Paus Minca (Mini or Midi)
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Allemano on September 12, 2012, 03:23:25 PM
Quote from: pnegyesi on September 12, 2012, 03:11:11 PM
It is probably a Paus Minca (Mini or Midi)
Not the name I have.
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: pnegyesi on September 12, 2012, 03:27:23 PM
can you please lock it 'til tomorrow morning?
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Allemano on September 12, 2012, 03:28:31 PM
Quote from: pnegyesi on September 12, 2012, 03:27:23 PM
can you please lock it 'til tomorrow morning?
Roger!
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: pnegyesi on September 13, 2012, 02:25:24 AM
Very reluctantly, but I have to pass on this one. You can unlock it

is it an universa?
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Allemano on September 14, 2012, 01:33:19 PM
No.
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: pnegyesi on September 18, 2012, 04:04:06 AM
I asked paus. It i from 1996. First aid mining vehicle named kuli
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Allemano on September 18, 2012, 04:05:55 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on September 18, 2012, 04:04:06 AM
I asked paus. It i from 1996. First aid mining vehicle named kuli
That's the ticket! Nice work Pal!
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Allemano on September 18, 2012, 05:02:13 AM
Well done gentlemen! :applause: :applause: :applause:


List of scored points:

Craig Gillingham - 7 points. Congratulations!
pnegyesi - 1 point + 1
Trommel - 3 points
Wendax - 1 point

From now on I award an extra point for the one who finds the final missing piece of a group puzzle.

In this case it's our Pal.
May it be an extra challenge in the future.  :)

Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Craig Gillingham on September 18, 2012, 05:05:13 AM
Allemano, thank you for the points. I look forward to your next off-road type of puzzle, if you post one.
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: pnegyesi on September 18, 2012, 06:13:15 AM
Well, thanks for the extra point. I got frustrated after not finding the car, that's why I asked Paus directly
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Allemano on September 18, 2012, 06:54:17 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on September 18, 2012, 06:13:15 AM
Well, thanks for the extra point. I got frustrated after not finding the car, that's why I asked Paus directly

Sometimes it has to be that way. I still have a return call to do regarding this one: http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=9794.0
Maybe some Kodakchrome color pics are available. ;)
Title: Re: The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Trommel on September 18, 2012, 09:56:30 AM
Thanks, I think #11 is a White-Freightliner though and not an Astra.
Title: Re: Solved - The Dirty Dozen
Post by: Wendax on November 11, 2012, 11:55:04 AM
Another picture of an Austro-Daimler Pferd: