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Title: Solved: Wendax 479 - Amilcar Pegase G36 Roadster
Post by: Wendax on February 04, 2012, 02:13:35 AM
Almost too beautiful to be true ...

For one point, please respond and identify this car.
Title: Re: Wendax 479
Post by: Wendax on February 11, 2012, 01:09:32 AM
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Title: Re: Wendax 479
Post by: dracu777 on February 11, 2012, 02:52:18 AM
Amilcar Pegase G36 Roadster from 1935
Title: Re: Wendax 479
Post by: Wendax on February 11, 2012, 06:16:38 AM
Yes, it is. One point for you.

Does anyone know the coachbuilder? (I don't.)
Title: Re: Solved: Wendax 479 - Amilcar Pegase G36 Roadster
Post by: dracu777 on February 11, 2012, 10:52:53 AM
I've seen it at numerous Concours in the US, and while I never spoke to the owner, none of the literature displayed with the car mentioned anything about the coachbuilder. I would be really curious to know as well.
Title: Re: Solved: Wendax 479 - Amilcar Pegase G36 Roadster
Post by: sixtee5cuda on November 10, 2013, 10:53:10 AM
Some more images of this car, then some thoughts.

Recent image from the right rear:
Title: Re: Solved: Wendax 479 - Amilcar Pegase G36 Roadster
Post by: sixtee5cuda on November 10, 2013, 10:57:55 AM
A very similar car, in a B&W image claiming to be from 1934:
Title: Re: Solved: Wendax 479 - Amilcar Pegase G36 Roadster
Post by: sixtee5cuda on November 10, 2013, 11:10:44 AM
Discussion:

Various web sites indicate the car was either just by Figoni, or by Figoni & Falaschi.  The almost-triangular badge near the lower front of the door in the B&W image, resembles that of Figoni & Falaschi.  A similar badge appears on the puzzle car image, near the top door hinge.  This badge is not present on many of the modern, color images of this car.

Various publications call this car Amilcar Racer, Amilcar Grand Prix, and "competition voiture".

There are some obvious differences between the puzzle car and the B&W image.  The puzzle car has external door hinges, and the doors open from the rear.  The B&W car has completely hidden door hinges, so we cannot tell if they open from the front or the rear. 

The central windshield/screen split is much thinner/more delicate on the B&W car. 

The width of the cowl area between the door and the hood/bonnet, is narrower on the B&W car.  An F&F badge would not have fit in that location on the B&W car.

The tie down locations for the top of the B&W car, are entirely on the bodywork of the car.  The puzzle car has these items in a different line, on both the body and tonneau cover.

Many of these differences could be production variances for a very-low production hand-built vehicle.  But they could also indicate the puzzle car is a more modern interpretation of the original.

Seeing the B&W image, the wire wheels on the puzzle car start to look too modern/large.
Title: Re: Solved: Wendax 479 - Amilcar Pegase G36 Roadster
Post by: sixtee5cuda on November 10, 2013, 11:28:18 AM
Two more B&W images:
Title: Re: Solved: Wendax 479 - Amilcar Pegase G36 Roadster
Post by: sixtee5cuda on November 10, 2013, 11:38:59 AM
(After finding B&W rear view of car)

On the puzzle car, the left tail light and the fuel filler are in a straight line next to the fender.  On the B&W image, the fuel filler is close to the fender, with both tail lights being inset closer to the boat-tail.

There is a horizontal section at the rear of the B&W car, between the body seam and the fender assembly.  This is at least 2 inches wide.  This horizontal section does not appear to exist on the puzzle car.

The tail lights on the B&W car, are larger and the lenses are practically flat.  The smaller, pointed lenses on the puzzle car may be stylish, but they are probably not historically accurate.
Title: Re: Solved: Wendax 479 - Amilcar Pegase G36 Roadster
Post by: Wendax on November 10, 2013, 12:04:12 PM
Thank you for this additional information. I share your doubts.
Title: Re: Solved: Wendax 479 - Amilcar Pegase G36 Roadster
Post by: grobmotorix on October 03, 2014, 08:17:24 AM
Here´s another photo from 1935 Salon d´Auto at Paris: