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Title: Solved: Wendax 542 Clément - Rochelle torpédo sport
Post by: Wendax on April 07, 2012, 01:35:56 AM
When the highest point of the car is the rim of the steering wheel.

For one point, please respond and identify car and year.
Title: Re: Wendax 542
Post by: foxawy on April 07, 2012, 02:07:58 AM
alfa ??
Title: Re: Wendax 542
Post by: Wendax on April 07, 2012, 02:48:33 AM
No
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Post by: foxawy on April 07, 2012, 05:19:36 PM
italian ??
Title: Re: Wendax 542
Post by: Wendax on April 07, 2012, 05:26:19 PM
Not Italian
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Post by: foxawy on April 08, 2012, 04:23:23 AM
british ?? early 30's ??
Title: Re: Wendax 542
Post by: Wendax on April 08, 2012, 04:25:37 AM
Not British.

One question at a time, please.
Title: Re: Wendax 542
Post by: foxawy on April 08, 2012, 04:36:52 AM
sorry i always get carried away with the questions , so is it early 30's ?
Title: Re: Wendax 542
Post by: Wendax on April 08, 2012, 04:51:45 AM
It is not from the early thirties.
Title: Re: Wendax 542
Post by: foxawy on April 08, 2012, 03:25:42 PM
american??
Title: Re: Wendax 542
Post by: Wendax on April 08, 2012, 03:54:04 PM
No
Title: Re: Wendax 542
Post by: Wendax on April 15, 2012, 02:22:33 AM
up
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Post by: Wendax on April 22, 2012, 02:14:00 AM
up again
Title: Re: Wendax 542
Post by: woodinsight on April 22, 2012, 02:43:20 AM
I thought it might be a Robur but I just want to eliminate that marque......
Title: Re: Wendax 542
Post by: Wendax on April 22, 2012, 05:44:00 AM
It's not a Robur
Title: Re: Wendax 542
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 22, 2012, 05:48:11 AM
I'm sure I saw it...Czech?
Title: Re: Wendax 542
Post by: Wendax on April 22, 2012, 06:05:25 AM
You may be right with your first assumption, but it is not Czech.
Title: Re: Wendax 542
Post by: woodinsight on April 22, 2012, 01:16:22 PM
French?
Title: Re: Wendax 542
Post by: Wendax on April 22, 2012, 01:18:04 PM
Oui
Title: Re: Wendax 542
Post by: RayTheRat on April 22, 2012, 01:58:53 PM
One-off special?
Title: Re: Wendax 542
Post by: Wendax on April 22, 2012, 02:36:10 PM
No
Title: Re: Wendax 542
Post by: woodinsight on April 23, 2012, 02:59:57 AM
Omega-Six?
Title: Re: Wendax 542
Post by: Wendax on April 23, 2012, 03:09:03 AM
No
Title: Re: Wendax 542
Post by: woodinsight on April 23, 2012, 04:54:16 AM
An established make (as opposed to an obscure one)?
Title: Re: Wendax 542
Post by: Wendax on April 23, 2012, 05:54:38 AM
The meaning of "obscure" differs between this forum and the rest of the world.  :D
Let's put it this way: just about the same degree of obscurity as your previous guess, perhaps a little more obscure, but not as obscure as many of the cars seen here before.
Title: Re: Wendax 542
Post by: woodinsight on April 26, 2012, 12:56:39 PM
Lambert?
Title: Re: Wendax 542
Post by: Wendax on April 26, 2012, 01:22:36 PM
No
Title: Re: Wendax 542
Post by: Wendax on July 28, 2012, 05:09:41 PM
I never thought this would end up there, but here it goes to the Black Hole.
Title: Re: Wendax 542
Post by: woodinsight on July 29, 2012, 10:59:00 AM
I'd forgotten about this one.
Let's try Guyot?
Title: Re: Wendax 542
Post by: Wendax on July 29, 2012, 12:29:55 PM
Not Guyot
Title: Re: Wendax 542
Post by: woodinsight on July 29, 2012, 02:21:47 PM
Licorne?
Title: Re: Wendax 542
Post by: Wendax on July 29, 2012, 02:29:03 PM
No
Title: Re: Wendax 542
Post by: RayTheRat on July 30, 2012, 10:15:45 AM
I ran across something as I was looking for something else.   ???

1924 Steyr GP?
Title: Re: Wendax 542
Post by: Wendax on July 30, 2012, 10:22:05 AM
French?

Oui

 ;)
Title: Re: Wendax 542
Post by: RayTheRat on July 30, 2012, 10:57:07 AM
 :bag:
Title: Re: Wendax 542
Post by: faksta on August 06, 2012, 07:50:28 AM
Looks like Tracta to me. Is it?
Title: Re: Wendax 542
Post by: Wendax on August 06, 2012, 08:00:05 AM
Sorry, no
Title: Re: Wendax 542
Post by: Craig Gillingham on August 08, 2012, 12:54:52 AM
Is it front wheel drive?
Title: Re: Wendax 542
Post by: Wendax on August 08, 2012, 02:30:13 AM
No
Title: Re: Wendax 542
Post by: woodinsight on August 10, 2012, 04:32:52 PM
Lombard AL-3 of 1927?
Title: Re: Wendax 542
Post by: Wendax on August 10, 2012, 04:55:36 PM
Not a Lombard, and 1927 is one year off
Title: Re: Wendax 542
Post by: Allan L on August 31, 2012, 06:32:07 PM
Looks as if the Sizaire freres had a hand in it.
Title: Re: Wendax 542
Post by: sixtee5cuda on September 01, 2012, 12:42:12 AM
Delage?
Title: Re: Wendax 542
Post by: Wendax on September 01, 2012, 01:15:12 AM
Not Sizaire and not Delage
Title: Re: Wendax 542
Post by: Allemano on September 01, 2012, 11:42:52 AM
The low belt line lets me think of Omega-Six.
Title: Re: Wendax 542
Post by: Wendax on September 01, 2012, 01:20:55 PM
Die Gedanken sind frei.
But it's not an Oméga-Six.
Title: Re: Wendax 542
Post by: Allemano on September 01, 2012, 01:22:43 PM
Stabilia?
Title: Re: Wendax 542
Post by: Wendax on September 01, 2012, 02:33:36 PM
No
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Post by: D-type on September 01, 2012, 03:40:13 PM
1926 BNC  ???
Title: Re: Wendax 542
Post by: Wendax on September 01, 2012, 06:01:44 PM
Neither 1926 nor BNC
Title: Re: Wendax 542
Post by: pnegyesi on September 02, 2012, 02:28:44 AM
one-off?
Title: Re: Wendax 542
Post by: Wendax on September 02, 2012, 02:40:55 AM
No
Title: Re: Wendax 542
Post by: woodinsight on September 02, 2012, 03:21:53 AM
Alphi-Cime of 1928?
Title: Re: Wendax 542
Post by: Wendax on September 02, 2012, 03:23:16 AM
1928 is correct, Alphi-Cime isn't.
Title: Re: Wendax 542
Post by: pnegyesi on September 02, 2012, 03:31:39 AM
introduced in 1928 and made for a few years?
Title: Re: Wendax 542
Post by: woodinsight on September 02, 2012, 03:48:39 AM
Perhaps it's a Rally?
Title: Re: Wendax 542
Post by: Allemano on September 02, 2012, 04:51:26 AM
Could it be a S.P.A.G. ? Those cars look similar at least.
Title: Re: Wendax 542
Post by: Allan L on September 02, 2012, 05:47:09 AM
My current opinion is that it is a Clément-Rochelle (or Clément et Rochelle) of 1927-30.
Can't get a closer date as I don't think the car changed much during the life of the company.
Title: Re: Wendax 542
Post by: Wendax on September 02, 2012, 08:14:31 AM
My current opinion is that it is a Clément-Rochelle (or Clément et Rochelle) of 1927-30.
Can't get a closer date as I don't think the car changed much during the life of the company.
Finally! It is a Clément-Rochelle from 1928 (as established before). It seems that the company was called Clément & Rochelle, while the car used the hyphenated name. In 1929, the bonnet louvers changed from vertical to horizontal. A remarkable feature of this car was independent wheel suspension all around.

Well done, two points for you.
Title: Re: Wendax 542
Post by: Allan L on September 02, 2012, 09:41:40 AM
My current opinion is that it is a Clément-Rochelle (or Clément et Rochelle) of 1927-30.
Can't get a closer date as I don't think the car changed much during the life of the company.
Finally! It is a Clément-Rochelle from 1928 (as established before). It seems that the company was called Clément & Rochelle, while the car used the hyphenated name. In 1929, the bonnet louvers changed from vertical to horizontal. A remarkable feature of this car was independent wheel suspension all around.

Well done, two points for you.
If there are two points for this, one should go to the late John Bolster, whose book supplied the answer (and drawings of front and rear suspension) ;D
Title: Re: Solved: Wendax 542 Clément-Rochelle torpédo sport
Post by: Allemano on September 02, 2012, 10:40:27 AM
The company Clément & Rochelle was a small company based in Clamart near Paris. They built cars from 1927 to 1930, which were featured with all wheel independent suspension. There was a two-seater coupe and spider, equipped with a 1.1-liter engine from Ruby.
Only a few were built.
Title: Re: Solved: Wendax 542 Clément - Rochelle torpédo sport
Post by: pnegyesi on September 25, 2019, 01:40:22 AM
The car was available for a few months, maybe even a year in Hungary. Astonishingly there is photographic evidence that at least one car was sold as can be seen in these late 1930s photos taken near the city of Szeged. Pictured is Antal Klement, who was a sort of broker. There were a lot of interesting cars passing through his hands and luckily many of his photos survived (but not the cars)
Title: Re: Solved: Wendax 542 Clément - Rochelle torpédo sport
Post by: Wendax on September 25, 2019, 02:25:53 AM
NIce find!