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Title: TEI #27 - Scooters! - SOLVED
Post by: Tom_I on September 30, 2012, 05:14:12 PM
PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING CAREFULLY:

In this puzzle each AutoPuzzles member is allowed only one ID attempt per day.

Once you post an ID attempt, you must wait 24 hours from the time stamp on that post until you make your next ID attempt. Multiple guesses within a 24 hour span will result in the second and any subsequent guesses being deleted.

This is to allow members in different time zones to have a fair crack at the puzzle, and ensure that anyone with "specialist knowledge" does not hijack the whole puzzle. :)

So on to the puzzle. I've never been a big fan of two-wheeled vehicles, but I have a soft spot for scooters. At the age of 16, the first motorised vehicle I ever bought was a semi-derelict Lambretta Li 2, which I restored to working condition.

So here are 18 scooters for you to identify. Make and model will earn you a point, though you make also like to give an approximate year of manufacture. Any further information is always appreciated.

Points will be awarded at the end when the puzzle is solved.

Have fun, and remember - only one ID attempt per day.

Title: Re: TEI #27 - Scooters! - SOLVED
Post by: Tom_I on September 30, 2012, 05:15:01 PM
The correct answers will be posted here:-

Scooter #1 - Dürkopp Diana (hondast)
Scooter #2 - BSA Sunbeam (sixtee5cuda)
Scooter #3 - DKR Defiant (thorax)
Scooter #4 - Iso Diva (hondast)
Scooter #5 - Triumph/TWN (Triumph Werke Nürnberg) Contessa (grobmotorix)
Scooter #6 - Guizzo 150 (Craig Gillingham)
Scooter #7 - Excelsior Monarch Mk II (Wendax)
Scooter #8 - Sun Wasp (thorax)
Scooter #9 - Manurhin Hobby/MR75/Concord (according to country of sale) (Craig Gillingham)
Scooter #10 - Phoenix 150 (thorax)
Scooter #11 - Glas Goggo (hondast)
Scooter #12 - Raleigh Roma (Wendax)
Scooter #13 - NSU Prima (hondast)
Scooter #14 - Puch SR/SRA (Craig Gillingham)
Scooter #15 - Cyclemaster Piatti (Craig Gillingham)
Scooter #16 - Dayton Albatross (thorax)
Scooter #17 - Maico Maicoletta (Craig Gillingham)
Scooter #18 - James 150 (Wendax)
Title: Re: TEI #27 - Scooters! - SOLVED
Post by: Otto Puzzell on October 01, 2012, 04:04:12 AM
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: TEI #27 - Scooters! - SOLVED
Post by: Allemano on October 03, 2012, 07:35:05 AM
Though it's not my favourite subject a very nicely selected puzzle!
Title: Re: TEI #27 - Scooters! - SOLVED
Post by: Tom_I on October 06, 2012, 11:09:33 AM
Experts?
Title: Re: TEI #27 - Scooters! - SOLVED
Post by: sixtee5cuda on October 06, 2012, 11:54:46 AM
#2 is a BSA Sunbeam.  Made between 1959 and 1965, also known as the Triumph Tigress
Title: Re: TEI #27 - Scooters! - SOLVED
Post by: Tom_I on October 06, 2012, 12:32:40 PM
The first correct answer! Well done.

Title: Re: TEI #27 - Scooters! - SOLVED
Post by: Craig Gillingham on October 06, 2012, 04:17:20 PM
#9 is a DKW Hobby
Title: Re: TEI #27 - Scooters! - SOLVED
Post by: Tom_I on October 06, 2012, 04:55:43 PM
You are very close. It does look like a DKW Hobby, but it is a later development, made in a different country under a different name.

#9 is locked for you to find the name. You do not have to wait the 24 hours - you can reply straight away. :)
Title: Re: TEI #27 - Scooters! - SOLVED
Post by: Craig Gillingham on October 06, 2012, 05:01:47 PM
Quote
You are very close. It does look like a DKW Hobby, but it is a later development, made in a different country under a different name.

#9 is locked for you to find the name. You do not have to wait the 24 hours - you can reply straight away.

Could it be a French Manurhin?
Title: Re: TEI #27 - Scooters! - SOLVED
Post by: Tom_I on October 06, 2012, 05:11:02 PM
Yes, that's it.

The DKW had a continuously variable belt drive transmission with a manually operated clutch. The Manurhin development added an automated clutch, making it the first scooter (I think) with a fully automated transmission, very much the norm these days.

Title: Re: TEI #27 - Scooters! - SOLVED
Post by: hondast on October 06, 2012, 05:15:37 PM
13 NSU Prima?
Title: Re: TEI #27 - Scooters! - SOLVED
Post by: Tom_I on October 06, 2012, 05:22:11 PM
Yes, that's right.

Title: Re: TEI #27 - Scooters! - SOLVED
Post by: thorax on October 06, 2012, 05:45:45 PM
# 3 : DKR De Luxe Defiant 200 cc
Title: Re: TEI #27 - Scooters! - SOLVED
Post by: Tom_I on October 06, 2012, 05:54:21 PM
Yes, that's the one!

Title: Re: TEI #27 - Scooters! - SOLVED
Post by: thorax on October 06, 2012, 05:57:38 PM
sorry but I have to wait 24 hr to solve another puzzle?
Title: Re: TEI #27 - Scooters! - SOLVED
Post by: Tom_I on October 06, 2012, 06:01:09 PM
Yes, 24 hours after the time stamp on your reply #13.
Title: Re: TEI #27 - Scooters! - SOLVED
Post by: Craig Gillingham on October 07, 2012, 04:29:11 PM
#14 is a Puch 125SR.
Title: Re: TEI #27 - Scooters! - SOLVED
Post by: Tom_I on October 07, 2012, 05:06:39 PM
To be honest, I am more than a little hazy about the model designations of Puch scooters. There's the SR, and SRA (which I think adds an electric starter), and engines of 125 or 150 cc. And are they all called Alpines, or is that a particular model?

Anyway, you are right, and if anyone has definitive knowledge about the various models, I would be interested to know...

Title: Re: TEI #27 - Scooters! - SOLVED
Post by: Craig Gillingham on October 07, 2012, 05:14:15 PM
Quote
There's the SR, and SRA (which I think adds an electric starter), and engines of 125 or 150 cc. And are they all called Alpines, or is that a particular model?
I honestly don't know, I knew it was a Puch, and just guessed it was a 125SR.
Title: Re: TEI #27 - Scooters! - SOLVED
Post by: hondast on October 07, 2012, 05:40:00 PM
11 Glas Goggo Roller?
Title: Re: TEI #27 - Scooters! - SOLVED
Post by: Tom_I on October 07, 2012, 05:45:29 PM
Yes, that's right. A very distinctive scooter.

Title: Re: TEI #27 - Scooters! - SOLVED
Post by: thorax on October 07, 2012, 05:59:46 PM
# 8: Sun Wasp "Scooter de Luxe" 175 cc
Title: Re: TEI #27 - Scooters! - SOLVED
Post by: Tom_I on October 07, 2012, 06:03:49 PM
Correct!

Made by the Sun Cycle & Fitting Company of Birmingham, UK, better known for making pedal cycles.

Title: Re: TEI #27 - Scooters! - SOLVED
Post by: Tom_I on October 07, 2012, 06:10:17 PM
Open to everyone now, but please note, only one ID attempt per 24 hours.
Title: Re: TEI #27 - Scooters! - SOLVED
Post by: Wendax on October 08, 2012, 02:09:02 AM
#12: Raleigh Roma

Title: Re: TEI #27 - Scooters! - SOLVED
Post by: woodinsight on October 08, 2012, 03:37:26 AM
#6 - Moto Rumi 125 1950s?
Title: Re: TEI #27 - Scooters! - SOLVED
Post by: pnegyesi on October 08, 2012, 04:15:00 AM
Is No3 a Lohner? An L125 maybe?
Title: Re: TEI #27 - Scooters! - SOLVED
Post by: Tom_I on October 08, 2012, 05:29:40 AM
#12: Raleigh Roma

That's right. Not an original design, though - it was the Italian Bianchi Orsetto made under licence.
Title: Re: TEI #27 - Scooters! - SOLVED
Post by: Tom_I on October 08, 2012, 05:32:55 AM
#6 - Moto Rumi 125 1950s?

Sorry, not a Moto Rumi.
Title: Re: TEI #27 - Scooters! - SOLVED
Post by: Tom_I on October 08, 2012, 05:36:16 AM
Is No3 a Lohner? An L125 maybe?

No 3 is already solved - it's the DKR Defiant (see Reply #1 under the puzzle pictures). ;)
Title: Re: TEI #27 - Scooters! - SOLVED
Post by: hondast on October 08, 2012, 05:40:39 PM
4 Iso Diva?
Title: Re: TEI #27 - Scooters! - SOLVED
Post by: grobmotorix on October 08, 2012, 05:52:41 PM
#5 might be a Triumph Contessa Tourenroller from Nuremberg
Title: Re: TEI #27 - Scooters! - SOLVED
Post by: Tom_I on October 08, 2012, 06:03:59 PM
4 Iso Diva?

Yes, that's right.

Title: Re: TEI #27 - Scooters! - SOLVED
Post by: Tom_I on October 08, 2012, 06:13:15 PM
#5 might be a Triumph Contessa Tourenroller from Nuremberg

Yes, a really high quality scooter made by the German Triumph Company, founded by Siegfried Bettmann after he established the Triumph bicycle factory in the UK. These machines were marketed in the UK, but under the brand name TWN (Triumph Werke Nürnberg) to distinguish them from the British Triumph products.

Title: Re: TEI #27 - Scooters! - SOLVED
Post by: Craig Gillingham on October 08, 2012, 07:17:14 PM
#17 is a Maico Maicoletta, made between 1954-1966.
Title: Re: TEI #27 - Scooters! - SOLVED
Post by: Wendax on October 09, 2012, 02:10:03 AM
#7 is an Excelsior Monarch Mk 2

Title: Re: TEI #27 - Scooters! - SOLVED
Post by: thorax on October 09, 2012, 03:24:25 AM
# 16 : Dayton Albatross
Title: Re: TEI #27 - Scooters! - SOLVED
Post by: Tom_I on October 09, 2012, 05:04:37 AM
#17 is a Maico Maicoletta, made between 1954-1966.

Yes!

Title: Re: TEI #27 - Scooters! - SOLVED
Post by: Tom_I on October 09, 2012, 05:05:44 AM
#7 is an Excelsior Monarch Mk 2

That's right.
Title: Re: TEI #27 - Scooters! - SOLVED
Post by: Tom_I on October 09, 2012, 05:06:50 AM
# 16 : Dayton Albatross

And another one correct - good work so far!
Title: Re: TEI #27 - Scooters! - SOLVED
Post by: hondast on October 09, 2012, 05:40:38 PM
1 Dürkop Diana?
Title: Re: TEI #27 - Scooters! - SOLVED
Post by: Tom_I on October 09, 2012, 05:49:46 PM
Yes, that's it (except that Dürkopp has two 'P's).  ;)
Title: Re: TEI #27 - Scooters! - SOLVED
Post by: hondast on October 09, 2012, 05:54:19 PM
Yes, that's it (except that Dürkopp has two 'P's).  ;)

 :doh:  Thanks.
Title: Re: TEI #27 - Scooters! - SOLVED
Post by: Craig Gillingham on October 09, 2012, 07:51:27 PM
#15 is a Cyclemaster? Piatti.
Title: Re: TEI #27 - Scooters! - SOLVED
Post by: Wendax on October 10, 2012, 02:23:21 AM
#18: James 150 Scooter
Title: Re: TEI #27 - Scooters! - SOLVED
Post by: Tom_I on October 10, 2012, 05:27:46 AM
#15 is a Cyclemaster? Piatti.

That's right. An Italian design first built by d'Ieteren in Belgium before production was taken up by Cyclemaster in the UK. Probably one of the least successful scooters of all time, but highly collectable now.
Title: Re: TEI #27 - Scooters! - SOLVED
Post by: Tom_I on October 10, 2012, 05:30:38 AM
#18: James 150 Scooter

Yes, made by one of the UK's oldest motorcycle manufacturers. The artwork is a bit odd - they made several publicity pictures like this with strangely out-of-focus people.

Good solid solving so far - only two left!
Title: Re: TEI #27 - Scooters! - SOLVED
Post by: thorax on October 10, 2012, 10:54:13 AM
# 10 : Phoenix scooter
Title: Re: TEI #27 - Scooters! - SOLVED
Post by: Tom_I on October 10, 2012, 11:49:56 AM
# 10 : Phoenix scooter

Yes, it is. A low-volume production British scooter available with various Villiers single or twin cylinder engines. This is the 150cc version.

I also found an advert with a terrible slogan (for non-English speakers, you say 150 as "one-fifty", so it rhymes with "nifty" and "thrifty").
Title: Re: TEI #27 - Scooters! - SOLVED
Post by: Craig Gillingham on October 10, 2012, 09:56:32 PM
#6 is a 1958 Palmieri & Gulinelli Guizzo 150.
Title: Re: TEI #27 - Scooters! - SOLVED
Post by: Tom_I on October 11, 2012, 04:54:47 AM
I don't know the exact date myself, but you've got the right machine - well done.

The puzzle picture is from a British magazine advert. I've since found a better photo of the same model.
Title: Re: TEI #27 - Scooters! - SOLVED
Post by: Tom_I on October 11, 2012, 05:19:47 AM
And with that the puzzle is solved! Well done, everyone. :applause:

The final points tally:

Craig Gillingham: 5
hondast: 4
thorax: 4
Wendax: 3
sixtee5cuda: 1
grobmotorix: 1

This was my first attempt at a group puzzle - thanks to all for taking part. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: TEI #27 - Scooters! - SOLVED
Post by: sixtee5cuda on October 11, 2012, 08:21:27 AM
That was a really fun, fast puzzle.  Thank you.