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Title: ADG 65 - SOLVED - Fiat 1100 Mille Miglia by Zagato modified by Roberto Chiappini
Post by: 75america on December 30, 2012, 04:57:18 AM
For a point: What was it originally and who's responsible for the conversion of the rear?
Title: Re: ADG 65
Post by: 75america on January 06, 2013, 08:14:19 AM
Do Experts know more about this car than Rookies?
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Post by: targhediferro on January 06, 2013, 09:14:25 AM
Dkw based?
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Post by: 75america on January 06, 2013, 10:33:55 AM
No DKW connection.
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Post by: kwgibbs on January 06, 2013, 10:37:01 AM
BORGWARD?
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Post by: spider on January 06, 2013, 11:07:51 AM
Jensen?
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Post by: D-type on January 06, 2013, 11:14:06 AM
Peerless?
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Post by: targhediferro on January 06, 2013, 11:23:52 AM
Rear lights seems to be Alfa Romeo Giulietta's ones...is there a connection?
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Post by: 75america on January 08, 2013, 11:26:15 AM
No Borgward, Jensen, Peerless or Alfa Romeo connection.
And I don't think these are Giulietta rear lights.
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Post by: thorax on January 08, 2013, 11:31:46 AM
Italian?
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Post by: targhediferro on January 08, 2013, 11:50:54 AM
The lights of rear plate are for sure those of Fiat 1100/103 D-H-(1957-1965), so I think Italy is a good gamble.
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Post by: mekubb on January 08, 2013, 12:29:51 PM
Fiat 1400 ?
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Post by: 75america on January 08, 2013, 12:35:41 PM
It's indeed Italian, it is even based on a Fiat 1100 (although I do not know which generation and version).
But there is still information (that I know) about the original car missing.
Also the person responsible for the modification of the rear is still missing.
According to the information I have, the conversion must have been made in the second half of 1956 or the first half of 1957.
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Post by: targhediferro on January 08, 2013, 02:54:04 PM
Steering wheels is a Nardi. 1100 Nardi?
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Post by: thorax on January 08, 2013, 05:18:28 PM
Fiat 1100 Tv Boano - Giannini?
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Post by: 75america on January 09, 2013, 06:32:21 AM
I have no idea if the steering wheel is from Nardi.
This car has nothing to do with Nardi, Boano or Giannini.
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Post by: targhediferro on January 09, 2013, 10:59:09 AM
Is it a one-off?
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Post by: 75america on January 09, 2013, 11:36:27 AM
I think that the original car was not a one-off (I think a small series was made, but most probably, none of them was identical.)
The conversion of the rear is a one-off job.
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Post by: Iluvatar on January 09, 2013, 11:38:31 AM
Original body by Zagato?
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Post by: 75america on January 09, 2013, 11:40:22 AM
Quote from: Iluvatar on January 09, 2013, 11:38:31 AM
Original body by Zagato?

Yes.  The 'most probably, none of them was identical' part of my response gave that away  :)
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Post by: Iluvatar on January 09, 2013, 02:32:24 PM
Quote from: 75america on January 09, 2013, 11:40:22 AM
Yes.  The 'most probably, none of them was identical' part of my response gave that away  :)
;)
Now for the second part of the puzzle...
Is another coachbuilder?
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Post by: 75america on January 09, 2013, 03:40:48 PM
No, but later on the guy worked (and still works) at least for 2 different coachbuilders.
But as far as my knowledge reaches, these carrozzieri were more 'carbody repair shops' than carrozzeria in its meaning we mostly use here at Autopuzzles
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Post by: targhediferro on January 10, 2013, 01:08:21 AM
Fantuzzi?
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Post by: 75america on January 10, 2013, 11:02:55 AM
A tad more obscure than Fantuzzi, but one of the guys other creations is already featured on Autopuzzles...
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Post by: targhediferro on January 10, 2013, 12:15:53 PM
Do you know if it's based on 1100E or 1100/103 TV?
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Post by: 75america on January 10, 2013, 03:45:54 PM
All I know is that it was originally a Fiat 1100 Mille Miglia by Zagato
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Post by: targhediferro on January 14, 2013, 02:41:00 PM
Any young Giugiaro connection?
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Post by: 75america on January 15, 2013, 11:25:31 AM
No, much more obscure.
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Post by: 75america on January 19, 2013, 03:25:29 AM
It looks like Professional-knowledge is needed to solve this one.
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Post by: 75america on April 06, 2013, 02:46:41 AM
To bring this one back to the forefront, the car before its conversion:
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Post by: woodinsight on April 06, 2013, 03:47:21 AM
Giovanni Giordanengo?
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Post by: 75america on April 06, 2013, 04:23:53 AM
Not the name I have for it.
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Post by: woodinsight on April 06, 2013, 05:16:34 AM
Pietro Gianni?
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Post by: 75america on April 06, 2013, 07:10:32 AM
No.
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Post by: woodinsight on April 06, 2013, 07:54:00 AM
Gastone Crepaldi?
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Post by: 75america on April 06, 2013, 08:25:41 AM
Not him.
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Post by: woodinsight on April 07, 2013, 02:55:10 AM
Aldo Faccioli?
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Post by: 75america on April 07, 2013, 02:57:31 AM
Also not him.
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Post by: 75america on June 05, 2013, 04:34:59 PM
Last hint before I send this one to the black hole:

At least one other creation of this man already appeared on Autopuzzles (although his name doesn't...or at least it doesn't show up when using the search tool)
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Post by: SACO on June 06, 2013, 02:51:33 AM
Roberto Chiappini ?
The other creation is the Fiat 850 Lampra ?
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Post by: 75america on June 06, 2013, 10:56:03 AM
Correct.

Fiat 1100 Mille Miglia by Zagato modified by Roberto Chiappini.
Title: Re: ADG 65 - SOLVED - Fiat 1100 Mille Miglia by Zagato modified by Roberto Chiappini
Post by: dzima1985 on June 07, 2013, 07:29:48 AM
Quote from: 75america on June 06, 2013, 10:56:03 AM
Fiat 1100 Mille Miglia by Zagato modified by Roberto Chiappini.
You have a car's front view?
Title: Re: ADG 65 - SOLVED - Fiat 1100 Mille Miglia by Zagato modified by Roberto Chiappini
Post by: 75america on June 07, 2013, 08:15:52 AM
Unfortunately not, I can only post the unaltered rear view:
Title: Re: ADG 65 - SOLVED - Fiat 1100 Mille Miglia by Zagato modified by Roberto Chiappini
Post by: thorax on September 06, 2013, 06:30:34 PM
another view:
Title: Re: ADG 65 - SOLVED - Fiat 1100 Mille Miglia by Zagato modified by Roberto Chiappini
Post by: Iluvatar on September 07, 2013, 05:41:58 AM
Quote from: thorax on September 06, 2013, 06:30:34 PM
another view:
It looks like a reversed version of picture in reply #29...  ;)
Title: Re: ADG 65 - SOLVED - Fiat 1100 Mille Miglia by Zagato modified by Roberto Chiappini
Post by: 75america on September 07, 2013, 06:18:18 AM
Well actually, the photo Thorax posted is the original one. I mirrored it so that it was impossible to find it with GIS.  Because it could not generate any confusion ( e.g. LHD/RHD) I thought it was OK to do so.